BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[jfoj]

When the original info about the "Oil Change" Recall came out, based on my years in the industry, I originally felt someone was having fun with Adobe. Then after a few days, reality set in, there really was an "Oil Change" Recall.

GM clearly had some time to think about the problems and the solution and still thought the "Oil Change" Recall would pass the straight face test. Then I assume social media, forums and the automotive press and industry started asking the tough questions. I think GM had second thoughts about the "Oil Change" Recall and I am sure NHTSA also questioned this.

Fast forward a few days until yesterday, what showed up on Reddit looks legit, it talks about specific build dates, even extended 1 month beyond the original cut off date, had info about Labor Ops, appears to have been from probably a dealer employee. This looks far more legit at first glance than the "Oil Change" Recall.

It will take a number of days for all this to settle out. Unclear if the NHTSA 25V274 will be revised or a new NHTSA number will be assigned. Probably will not see this until next week would be my guess.

Anyone interested just scroll back to Post #365 in this thread.

I am sure dealers will have more info next week as well and I am sure the Recall push notifications need to be changed/updated.

 

[corpnupe85]

I hope my contribution/questions don't get lost in this. We are on page 39 of this post and I am afraid some of the knowledgeable folks have tired of this. But here is my question(s)
1. I have the Chevrolet app on my phone and it tells me my 24 Tahoe is fine. It states 'Everything looks good' 'Your vehicle has no health issues'. Does this mean my 6.2 engine is a 'good' one? I ask because someone much earlier in this posting said their Cadillac app indicated their engine was on the recall?
2. I guess I may be asking a 'Russian Roulette' question but...... I have just 13,700 miles on the vehicle. I live in North Georgia. I have taken numerous trips to Florida. I have taken a round trip to N.W. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Chicago, and back. I have taken another trip to N.W. Illinois and to Chicago and back. Never any problems noted. Do I trust driving it to Illinois again? just a side note I get 22-24 mpg's...if the wind isn't buffeting me

Where do I find the build date on the engine?

I have contacted my dealer and like others on this posting "I" seem to know more about this debacle they do???

In your Chevrolet app, navigate to the 'Help Center' and then select 'Recall and Warranty', this will tell you if your vehicle is affected. If you have an online account, you can also check there as well. Unfortunately, the 2021 Tahoe High Country that I purchased in Jan. 2025 is on the recall list.

 

[jfoj]

That's a lot of unnecessary stuff. The fix is in now get it fixed. For those that didn't know now they know. Problems are always on the radar of manufacturers. Every warranty issue is documented and followed. They see patterns emerge. They than take action.

Theres no secret. Manufacturers would recall much quicker these days because it preserves brand reputation.

No one is hiding it takes data to act upon.

Nothing unnecessary, people need to understand what happened and what is going on.

I am well aware of the manufacturer side as well as the how Warranty claims help track things.

Patterns were obvious for quite a while, it appears GM has investigate the 6.2l problems at least 3 times.

GM DID NOT RECALL FOR THE June/July 2024 corrections. They stayed quiet, NHTSA started the preliminary I believe in early Jan with PE25001 which was probably the 1st Preliminary Investigation of 2025. GM was told by the NHTSA they MUST reply by March 28, 2025 or request an extension.

So by late April 24th, 2025 the official NHTSA Recall 25C274 was released. GM had issued internal dealer communications before this with a Stop Sale request.

So GM clearly about 6 months to do the right thing before the NHTSA PE25001 was sent. I am sure there were verbal discussions before this but who knows.

All the current 6.2l owners between 2021 and 2024 are now in a difficult position. Can they, should they "Travel" out of town with their 6.2l vehicles before the engine is replaced. I know what I would do based on the estimated 3% failure rate of these engines, which is likely low. So probably somewhere over 18,000 engines that potentially can fail on the highway at speed. Bearings usually spin at high RPM or under high loading, the 6.2l at highway speed is under high loading on very slight grades, typically 70-100% engine loading.

I think Clint Eastwood said it best, "Are You Feeling Lucky?"

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Nothing unnecessary, people need to understand what happened and what is going on.

I am well aware of the manufacturer side as well as the how Warranty claims help track things.

Patterns were obvious for quite a while, it appears GM has investigate the 6.2l problems at least 3 times.

GM DID NOT RECALL FOR THE June/July 2024 corrections. They stayed quiet, NHTSA started the preliminary I believe in early Jan with PE25001 which was probably the 1st Preliminary Investigation of 2025. GM was told by the NHTSA they MUST reply by March 28, 2025 or request an extension.

So by late April 24th, 2025 the official NHTSA Recall 25C274 was released. GM had issued internal dealer communications before this with a Stop Sale request.

So GM clearly about 6 months to do the right thing before the NHTSA PE25001 was sent. I am sure there were verbal discussions before this but who knows.

All the current 6.2l owners between 2021 and 2024 are now in a difficult position. Can they, should they "Travel" out of town with their 6.2l vehicles before the engine is replaced. I know what I would do based on the estimated 3% failure rate of these engines, which is likely low. So probably somewhere over 18,000 engines that potentially can fail on the highway at speed. Bearings usually spin at high RPM or under high loading, the 6.2l at highway speed is under high loading on very slight grades, typically 70-100% engine loading.

I think Clint Eastwood said it best, "Are You Feeling Lucky?"

Recall notice says there are around 14k already blown, right?
0.03*597*10^3 = 17.9*10^3

So maybe only 4000 left?

 

[Bkihum]

Nothing unnecessary, people need to understand what happened and what is going on.

I am well aware of the manufacturer side as well as the how Warranty claims help track things.

Patterns were obvious for quite a while, it appears GM has investigate the 6.2l problems at least 3 times.

GM DID NOT RECALL FOR THE June/July 2024 corrections. They stayed quiet, NHTSA started the preliminary I believe in early Jan with PE25001 which was probably the 1st Preliminary Investigation of 2025. GM was told by the NHTSA they MUST reply by March 28, 2025 or request an extension.

So by late April 24th, 2025 the official NHTSA Recall 25C274 was released. GM had issued internal dealer communications before this with a Stop Sale request.

So GM clearly about 6 months to do the right thing before the NHTSA PE25001 was sent. I am sure there were verbal discussions before this but who knows.

All the current 6.2l owners between 2021 and 2024 are now in a difficult position. Can they, should they "Travel" out of town with their 6.2l vehicles before the engine is replaced. I know what I would do based on the estimated 3% failure rate of these engines, which is likely low. So probably somewhere over 18,000 engines that potentially can fail on the highway at speed. Bearings usually spin at high RPM or under high loading, the 6.2l at highway speed is under high loading on very slight grades, typically 70-100% engine loading.

I think Clint Eastwood said it best, "Are You Feeling Lucky?"

SO HOW DO WE TELL THE DATE OF THE ENGINE BUILD, not the vehicle but engine build date from engine plant??

 

[22BlackDenali]

Lemon laws are by state rules usually.

Lemon laws also need so many days out of service for the same complaint without a proper repair resolution. I have seen people make up things that did not exists and there was no way to repair the "phantom" problem and at least meet the Lemon Law requirements.

Someone mentioned GM should consider trade up offers for some owners, if they are interested to get into a newer model outside of the Recall window. This keeps the customer moving, hopefully keeps the customer from souring on GM, then the dealer has a bit more time to replace and engine and as we all know dealers make more money on used vehicles if these models do not become tainted in the publics eyes.

I would be interested for sure.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

SO HOW DO WE TELL THE DATE OF THE ENGINE BUILD, not the vehicle but engine build date from engine plant??

See Post #365

 

[jfoj]

28,102 "Field Complaints"
14,322 Involved Allegations Of Loss Of Propulsion

"On April 27, 2025 GM's Safety Field Action Division Authority (SFADA) decided to conduct a safety recall."

Ironically this was AFTER NHTSA sent GM a Preliminary Evaluation request and required GM to respond back I believe with a A LOT of documentation.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

28,102 "Field Complaints"
14,322 Involved Allegations Of Loss Of Propulsion

"On April 27, 2025 GM's Safety Field Action Division Authority (SFADA) decided to conduct a safety recall."

Ironically this was AFTER NHTSA sent GM a Preliminary Evaluation request and required GM to respond back I believe with a A LOT of documentation.

Yes, that is the point...NHTSA got after them.

 

[DuraYuk]

28,102 "Field Complaints"
14,322 Involved Allegations Of Loss Of Propulsion

"On April 27, 2025 GM's Safety Field Action Division Authority (SFADA) decided to conduct a safety recall."

Ironically this was AFTER NHTSA sent GM a Preliminary Evaluation request and required GM to respond back I believe with a A LOT of documentation.

Like i said it's hardly anything. I've fixed thousands of wave plates and transmissions of the same type at one dealer.

You fail to realize that there is a lot of vehicles out there and this is such a small number it actually is insignificant.

Now there's a recall. And now there's a fix. And that's that.