BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

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CCPLuvr

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Most don't seem to understand how recalls work.
From the time a manufacturer identifies a defect they have 5 days to report this to NHTSA along with the vehicle population.
Within a reasonable timeframe the manufacturer must send notification to dealers/owners of affected products. We have all seen the notification.
The notification is not the repair process, which is not required to be sent at the same time. Manufacturers are allowed time to prepare the repair process and have in inventory enough parts to take care of a significant % of the population. Dealers are waiting on the process to be released probably because GM needs to build up engine inventory.
 

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It's dependent on your state's lemon law and if you get GM to agree voluntarily or they lose the lawsuit you'll have to file.
 

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Dude you need to relax. Toyota just had a huge engine recall on tundras and most people don't know and don't care.

Most people won't break down from this. Most people will never have an issue. And Most people will get theirs fixed before any issues.

The fix is in. Step 1 is admitting the problem and now step 2 is correction.

You guys are going on and on about things you have no idea about.
@DuraYak

Trust me A LOT of people care about this recall and what GM was/is going to do for the end customer. The entire 6.2l issue from 2021 has been real crap show. There have CLEARLY been at least 3 major problems in this timeframe. Many people have broken down and been stranded. I have researched this issue all over the place, there is only a small number of owners on this forum.

Many owners have had more than 1 engine replaced, some in as short as a few hundred miles.

The real issue here is GM's first stance was free oil change and viscosity upgrade for the group, which most were aware that this was not a fix to the problem.

Then just yesterday, GM has make a 180 degree turn and the new rules are effectively if the engine in the Recalled population was built before July 1, 2024 the engine will be replaced, this is for either the original or any replacement engine. This is HUGE.

Now the other problem is now people are even more worried if and when their engine may fail before the Recall can be performed. I fully understand the "Range Anxiety" that people may have. I have it and my truck is not even in the Recalled population, yet. Yes, GM even moved the window out 1 month from the original window as of yesterday.

What really pisses off a lot of owners is GM CLEARLY knew about problems and think they implemented the fix in Mid 2024 but chose to do nothing until the NHTSA opened up an investigation. Then they took a half baked approach on their first pass of the Recall. I believe social media and forums probably brought it to GM's attention that the inmates were getting very restless and not happy with the initially proposed solution.

The flip side is also an issue. There may be owners that have had no issues with their 6.2l and may have 70-80k miles and really do not want their truck taken out of service and torn apart. I fully get this rationale as well.

The other part is many owners are now in the what do I do in the mean time while we are waiting on parts and dealer service windows? Do we change to 0W40 oil, do we change our 0W20 oil, do we do nothing, do we stop driving the vehicle. Lots of concerns and questions.

If my vehicle fell in the Recall population and I had long distance out of town trips to take, I would think twice about taking my 6.2l more than 50 miles from home at this point. This is just me. History shows that the majority of the failures are at highway speeds between 60-75 MPH. Would you put yourself or you family in this situation?

No need to relax here. Hopefully some of my comments made it back to GM and made them think again about the "Oil Change Recall". Bad decision on GM's part. Probably a non technical senior exec made this decision while looking after their bonus and the stock price. Many shareholders own these vehicles and at some point when mistakes are make, you must take ownership. The engine replacement is the correct answer, but it will be painful for everyone; GM, Shareholders, Vehicle Owners, Dealers, Suppliers. It is not going to be easy and GM needs to do everything in their power to make this go as smooth as possible.

Next - Valve Bodies!

Enough said.
 

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I wonder if you can return it under a lemon law and just move on?
Lemon laws are by state rules usually.

Lemon laws also need so many days out of service for the same complaint without a proper repair resolution. I have seen people make up things that did not exists and there was no way to repair the "phantom" problem and at least meet the Lemon Law requirements.

Someone mentioned GM should consider trade up offers for some owners, if they are interested to get into a newer model outside of the Recall window. This keeps the customer moving, hopefully keeps the customer from souring on GM, then the dealer has a bit more time to replace and engine and as we all know dealers make more money on used vehicles if these models do not become tainted in the publics eyes.
 

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I hope my contribution/questions don't get lost in this. We are on page 39 of this post and I am afraid some of the knowledgeable folks have tired of this. But here is my question(s)
1. I have the Chevrolet app on my phone and it tells me my 24 Tahoe is fine. It states 'Everything looks good' 'Your vehicle has no health issues'. Does this mean my 6.2 engine is a 'good' one? I ask because someone much earlier in this posting said their Cadillac app indicated their engine was on the recall?
2. I guess I may be asking a 'Russian Roulette' question but...... I have just 13,700 miles on the vehicle. I live in North Georgia. I have taken numerous trips to Florida. I have taken a round trip to N.W. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Chicago, and back. I have taken another trip to N.W. Illinois and to Chicago and back. Never any problems noted. Do I trust driving it to Illinois again? just a side note I get 22-24 mpg's...if the wind isn't buffeting me

Where do I find the build date on the engine?

I have contacted my dealer and like others on this posting "I" seem to know more about this debacle they do???
 
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@DuraYak

Trust me A LOT of people care about this recall and what GM was/is going to do for the end customer. The entire 6.2l issue from 2021 has been real crap show. There have CLEARLY been at least 3 major problems in this timeframe. Many people have broken down and been stranded. I have researched this issue all over the place, there is only a small number of owners on this forum.

Many owners have had more than 1 engine replaced, some in as short as a few hundred miles.

The real issue here is GM's first stance was free oil change and viscosity upgrade for the group, which most were aware that this was not a fix to the problem.

Then just yesterday, GM has make a 180 degree turn and the new rules are effectively if the engine in the Recalled population was built before July 1, 2024 the engine will be replaced, this is for either the original or any replacement engine. This is HUGE.

Now the other problem is now people are even more worried if and when their engine may fail before the Recall can be performed. I fully understand the "Range Anxiety" that people may have. I have it and my truck is not even in the Recalled population, yet. Yes, GM even moved the window out 1 month from the original window as of yesterday.

What really pisses off a lot of owners is GM CLEARLY knew about problems and think they implemented the fix in Mid 2024 but chose to do nothing until the NHTSA opened up an investigation. Then they took a half baked approach on their first pass of the Recall. I believe social media and forums probably brought it to GM's attention that the inmates were getting very restless and not happy with the initially proposed solution.

The flip side is also an issue. There may be owners that have had no issues with their 6.2l and may have 70-80k miles and really do not want their truck taken out of service and torn apart. I fully get this rationale as well.

The other part is many owners are now in the what do I do in the mean time while we are waiting on parts and dealer service windows? Do we change to 0W40 oil, do we change our 0W20 oil, do we do nothing, do we stop driving the vehicle. Lots of concerns and questions.

If my vehicle fell in the Recall population and I had long distance out of town trips to take, I would think twice about taking my 6.2l more than 50 miles from home at this point. This is just me. History shows that the majority of the failures are at highway speeds between 60-75 MPH. Would you put yourself or you family in this situation?

No need to relax here. Hopefully some of my comments made it back to GM and made them think again about the "Oil Change Recall". Bad decision on GM's part. Probably a non technical senior exec made this decision while looking after their bonus and the stock price. Many shareholders own these vehicles and at some point when mistakes are make, you must take ownership. The engine replacement is the correct answer, but it will be painful for everyone; GM, Shareholders, Vehicle Owners, Dealers, Suppliers. It is not going to be easy and GM needs to do everything in their power to make this go as smooth as possible.

Next - Valve Bodies!

Enough said.


How did you determine that the majority of failures occurred with the vehicle being driven 60 - 75 mph?

How did you determine that a non-technical senior tech “probably” made the decision (recall?) after looking after their bonus and the stock price?

Any facts or proof?
 

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I hope my contribution/questions don't get lost in this. We are on page 39 of this post and I am afraid some of the knowledgeable folks have tired of this. But here is my question(s)
1. I have the Chevrolet app on my phone and it tells me my 24 Tahoe is fine. It states 'Everything looks good' 'Your vehicle has no health issues'. Does this mean my 6.2 engine is a 'good' one? I ask because someone much earlier in this posting said their Cadillac app indicated their engine was on the recall?
2. I guess I may be asking a 'Russian Roulette' question but...... I have just 13,700 miles on the vehicle. I live in North Georgia. I have taken numerous trips to Florida. I have taken a round trip to N.W. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Chicago, and back. I have taken another trip to N.W. Illinois and to Chicago and back. Never any problems noted. Do I trust driving it to Illinois again? just a side note I get 22-24 mpg's...if the wind isn't buffeting me

Where do I find the build date on the engine?

I have contacted my dealer and like others on this posting "I" seem to know more about this debacle they do???
What is the build month and year on your 2024 Tahoe? And I assume it has a 6.2 l? I would say if your Tahoe was built in August or September of 2024 you're probably okay. The engine tag is on the back of the driver side cylinder head You can really only see it from under the car if you have ramps you can get up under there but you need to take your phone to take a picture of it because it's still difficult to see
 

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I hope my contribution/questions don't get lost in this. We are on page 39 of this post and I am afraid some of the knowledgeable folks have tired of this. But here is my question(s)
1. I have the Chevrolet app on my phone and it tells me my 24 Tahoe is fine. It states 'Everything looks good' 'Your vehicle has no health issues'. Does this mean my 6.2 engine is a 'good' one? I ask because someone much earlier in this posting said their Cadillac app indicated their engine was on the recall?
2. I guess I may be asking a 'Russian Roulette' question but...... I have just 13,700 miles on the vehicle. I live in North Georgia. I have taken numerous trips to Florida. I have taken a round trip to N.W. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Chicago, and back. I have taken another trip to N.W. Illinois and to Chicago and back. Never any problems noted. Do I trust driving it to Illinois again? just a side note I get 22-24 mpg's...if the wind isn't buffeting me

Where do I find the build date on the engine?

I have contacted my dealer and like others on this posting "I" seem to know more about this debacle they do???
If you are up for it, can you crawl under your vehicle, look at the left side toward the rear of your engine, on the valve cover or near it. Find the engine Serial Number sticker, take a picture of it, and see what the build date was (see post#365) This will definitively tell you if it was built before or after the tooling changes. Then you will know.
My app tells me my 2022 is IN the recall, I know my engine was built in November 2021. I suspect if your app does not, you are good to go.

I am also at 35,500 trouble free (at least engine wise) miles, so I can tell you there are plenty of 6.2's running strong. Indeed the Recall Notice says it is an expected 3% problem. I suspect this data comes from the actual fail rate GM has observed thus far. So, even if you have a suspect engine, it has been, thus far, 3% of the vehicle population...this is pretty consistent w/ what we have seen here on the forum too, many of us are running fine. Makes total sense.

I kind of agree w/ @DuraYuk. As much as I hate the fact that my 6.2 is in the recall list, and as much as it is in the back of my mind whether this thing could blow. We really can do nothing but wait for the final recal notice, which is supposed to be mailed on Jun 9, and then wait for repair parts to be available, and get the repair specified. Nothing more we can do, can't push GM harder, can't get a new engine until GM publishes the process (and the N252494002 notice isn't even on the NHTSA web site yet), and can't get our dealers to move until they get all the info from GM. So, try to relax, enjoy your vehicle, maintain it properly, and wait for the actual info to get in the hands of your dealer.
 

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1. I have the Chevrolet app on my phone and it tells me my 24 Tahoe is fine. It states 'Everything looks good' 'Your vehicle has no health issues'. Does this mean my 6.2 engine is a 'good' one? I ask because someone much earlier in this posting said their Cadillac app indicated their engine was on the recall?
2. I guess I may be asking a 'Russian Roulette' question but...... I have just 13,700 miles on the vehicle. I live in North Georgia. I have taken numerous trips to Florida. I have taken a round trip to N.W. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Chicago, and back. I have taken another trip to N.W. Illinois and to Chicago and back. Never any problems noted. Do I trust driving it to Illinois again? just a side note I get 22-24 mpg's...if the wind isn't buffeting me
1. No. The recall notification is separate from the "Everything looks fine" aspect of the app. You should have a notice in your "in box" on the app.

2. No one can say.
 

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