Any interest in 4wd front coilovers to replace tbars?

[Atomic]

Oh wow, you guys are low!

 

[bottomline2000]

How low exactly are you looking to go Blackout?


What is you guys ride height and what size tires?

Just out of curiousity - have any one looked up atomic on PT.net. He may not be as low as those of us looking into this conversion, but i read a thread where he was at 30" ground to fender on stock (i think) silverado wheels. I believe just putting them on testing it out. I am not sure i can even go that low w/o ripping something off the front. http://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...coilover-conversion-518118/page5/#post5109642

(this could be wrong info as i see he just posted, but all the reading may have my info jumbled on who it was)

cant wait to see this conversion done.

This is the same Atomic on here. You talking to him lol. My biggest concern is being able to adjust ride height independent of spring preload. Am i missing something? I wanna go low as well but it seems we don't have enough room for the shock with the kit.

Atomic mentioned he raised his top mount for the shock. Maybe that's an option.

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[Atomic]

Shocks have a certain range that they recommend running the ride height, so relative to the shock the ride height needs to stay pretty constant (within an inch or so usually). Longer stroke shocks have a wider "ride height" than short shocks. For the spring, you can run whatever preload and stiffness you want, just as long as the shock stays in its range. The danger of running a lot of preload is having coil bind before the shock has all its downtravel.

If by raise top mount you mean the stud mount, then yes you could do that and it gives you 1.5" of room, but the bushing is iffy since this is more weight than it is designed for. There is nothing wrong with a solid mount, so Im not sure the bushing is absolutely needed...

 

[Bomba02]

Still very interested in this mod. Gotta get all the buggs worked out tho. The fellow over at PT.net that has the stud mount top just tried a different rate poly for the bushing. Need to see how that goes. I wouldn't see a problem with putting a derlin or solid material in for the stud mount bushing. Not like it needs to move left to right or rotate unless I'm missing something it's still just a shock right?? I deff think us that are slammed would need the stud mount to gain the travel and for it to work. That's my thinking....any thoughts?

 

[digitalfiend]

Yea but whats your ride height, are you as low in the front as we are? I really want this to happen, but I just dont think 1" of up travel is enough to keep from bottoming out on every bump in the road

Don't forget about the effect that the control arms serve in relation to the shock...they're essentially levers that pivot from where they connect at the frame. This means that 1" of shock travel is not 1" of travel at your tire/rim/hub. When I swapped out my t-bar lowering keys I meant to see what the travel is at the wheel hub when there's 1" of travel at the shock. Unfortunately, I just plain forgot. If I can get to this soon I'll post the results, but don't you be holdin' your breath. Anybody want to beat me to this?

 

[04blackout]

How low exactly are you looking to go Blackout?


What is you guys ride height and what size tires?

I'd have to remeasure but im on 305/35/24 and everything rubs... not looking to go any lower

I deff think us that are slammed would need the stud mount to gain the travel and for it to work. That's my thinking....any thoughts?

I thought the same thing... until I read this below

Don't forget about the effect that the control arms serve in relation to the shock...they're essentially levers that pivot from where they connect at the frame. This means that 1" of shock travel is not 1" of travel at your tire/rim/hub. When I swapped out my t-bar lowering keys I meant to see what the travel is at the wheel hub when there's 1" of travel at the shock. Unfortunately, I just plain forgot. If I can get to this soon I'll post the results, but don't you be holdin' your breath. Anybody want to beat me to this?

Well, this hadn't occured to me, so now I think it might be totally feasible

 

[Tahoewhat]

This is the same Atomic on here. You talking to him lol. My biggest concern is being able to adjust ride height independent of spring preload. Am i missing something? I wanna go low as well but it seems we don't have enough room for the shock with the kit.

Yes, misunderstanding i think. I know its him, but have you looked him up on PT.net, not here. He has lots more pictures of his setup and other comments on the setup. ( mostly just for a reference for those that would like to know more is where i was getting at.)


Has anyone else measured their height as Atomic said, center to fender? Interested in seeing ya'lls height.

 

[digitalfiend]

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Has anyone else measured their height as Atomic said, center to fender? Interested in seeing ya'lls height.

Sitting on the slight incline on my driveway I measure 17.75" from center of wheel hub to fender. On flat ground I think it's about 17.5. I'm running 27" tall tires so in the front I'm at 30.5" from fender to ground.

 

[04blackout]

I'm running 27" tall tires so in the front I'm at 30.5" from fender to ground.

Damn man, my tires are 33"

 

[Tahoewhat]

Damn man, my tires are 33"

ha ha.. You must of missed what hes riding on. lol.

Hes not riding 20's and has a small sidewall.

Sitting on the slight incline on my driveway I measure 17.75" from center of wheel hub to fender. On flat ground I think it's about 17.5. I'm running 27" tall tires so in the front I'm at 30.5" from fender to ground.

Weird I figured you would be lower than me. Fender to ground you are, but not center to fender. If i did it right my tire is a 31.22" tall

 

[04blackout]

I just think its funny when guys lift their truck to fit 33's and im like yea im slammed down on 33's LoL

Guy at work argued with me when I made a comment about having more ground clearance than him (same rig)... my bumper might be closer, but my diff is def higher =]

 

[Atomic]

Stock shocks have 4.5" of total travel for what its worth, that means only 2.25" up or down travel. Like mentioned, movement at the wheel is a lot more than the shock distance.

 

[04blackout]

Stock shocks have 4.5" of total travel for what its worth, that means only 2.25" up or down travel. Like mentioned, movement at the wheel is a lot more than the shock distance.

ive been thinking about this all day, and im pretty sure im gonna take the plunge once the weather warms up a bit. i went and measured tonight and my hub to fender measurement is 17 3/8, and ground to fender is 32 3/4 pass side and 33 1/8 drivers... but my rear is defintely a good 1/2-3/4 higher, so im thinking of just gathering up all the stuff i need to totally redo everything and get this bish level and smooth

 

[Tahoewhat]

ive been thinking about this all day, and im pretty sure im gonna take the plunge once the weather warms up a bit. i went and measured tonight and my hub to fender measurement is 17 3/8, and ground to fender is 32 3/4 pass side and 33 1/8 drivers... but my rear is defintely a good 1/2-3/4 higher, so im thinking of just gathering up all the stuff i need to totally redo everything and get this bish level and smooth

You got the chevy lean. lol. You can adjust the keys and level the front even.

and DO IT... Just get all the stuff inline and make one order. Trust me, it will help.

(might have some inspiration for you all tomorrow)

 

[Bomba02]

Center to fender I'm at 16 1/4ish best level ground I could find. I'm on my stock 17 inch rims and rubbers. Someone just do the mod lol! Wish I had the cake id just do it! Billy

 

[04blackout]

I put together a quick list last night of what I think would fit and what I need to make it work...

Qa1 coilover shocks, hyperco springs, atomic brackets, new lca's, bumpstops up front
ridetech adjustable shocks, tony's 6" springs in the rear

Roughly $1700 total... I have no problem spending the money, but I DO NOT want to do it twice, which would actually be a third time bc this is already the second go round. The ride right now doesnt bother me bc ive always had lifted trucks, but I know my wife hates it, and if I spend $1700 and it still bounces around I would never hear the end of it

 

[Tahoewhat]

Coil overs installed

COIL OVERS INSTALLED -

Review coming soon. Just installed.

I'll leave you with one word ---

WOW - Vast improvement over torsion bar setup. Even on the firmest setting on the shocks, still better ride and control.

ok, more than one word. lol

(ecstatic)

 

[04blackout]

Exactly which shocks did you use?
coil springs?
how low are you?

We need pics, details, pics, reviews... oh and PICS

 

[Tahoewhat]

Exactly which shocks did you use?
coil springs?
how low are you?

We need pics, details, pics, reviews... oh and PICS

ha ha ha...

In time grasshopper, in time i will answer all questions.

For a quick response:

For pics, honestly none really of the install, its quite simple, bolt on mostly. With the exception of cutting off the corner of the bumpstop bracket and the little section of frame right there (as are in atomics pics) If you look at atomics pics, mine look identical.

But one thing to note, i did not drill holes for the bolts for the upper brackets. I saw no way to do it (to bolt them on the backside) as the motor mount is right there on the drivers side. So i just welded them. I think they are only about 3/8 thickness anyway. Not a big deal to me.

Pics, parts used (which is exactly as Atomic listed all of them will be used if you use the procomp adapter, as no bushings for stud mount have held up at this time) details, reviews, etc.. hopefully tomorrow.

And height, i am at the same exact height as before i started the install. 32 ground to fender or 16.5 center wheel to fender bottom. Not a difference at all. But the only negative is i can only go up not any lower till someone finds a bushing that works for the stud mount. But at this present time, I have absolutely no complaints.

 

[VWDRAGBUG777]

Hey atomic I'm interested in ur coil over brackets pm me please I have a 03 escalade awd on 33s curious if I can use these want to get rid of the problematic air ride crap.. Thanks