4 Hi mod help

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

So now what?

 

[SunlitComet]

which direction was the diode again please?

 

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

Band on low

 

[SunlitComet]

alright still looking at diagram. i need to ask are your headlight feeds purple and yellow or tan and green?

 

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

Tan and green

 

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

Alright i have used high and low by themselves for 2 days and never once did i lose a low or high
But every time now and then when turning from low to drl i will lose a low

 

[SunlitComet]

F*** just lost a huge post trying to track this issue.......

i have to go shorter about this i am not typing all that again.

go back to basics. go back to halogen remove the relayed harness if all work fine the add this 4hi-kit. no more diode crap. if all is still good then add your hids back in. if you develop power supply issues then add the relayed harness. if the voltage available at light sockets is worse then without it chuck that harness and get another or fix it. when you have a supply of 11.9 volts and you have a loss of .5v that is not bad. when you have a supply of 13v afterwards and lose 1.2v thru the relayed harness something is wrong with that setup. any time an issue comes up after add that part has got to be the fault with that part or ones already involved. when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. we have bloated a tech thread with 65+ more post on trouble shooting and with no good fix yet. this is what it comes down to. maybe you have a random faults that does not stick in one place in the system but you know it is withing specific wires and parts in a system. unless you are willing to test(even mega-ohm wiring), and repair if needed, every specific part or wire circuit then go back to basics and stock light system and parts and use process of elimination in a more simpler form by starting over otherwise replace it all with new reputable parts that are known for their reliability. i don't normally suggest that but overtime it seems to be working it does not a few hours later, and it seems like each time it does fail the story is different. such as not working for a few hours then 4hi working for 2 days but in actuality randomly working halfway and not knowing this info for that given time period. this is just confusing the problem and takes away from the coming to a permanent solution.

 

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

Do i have to use that kit or can i just wire it up like the kit?

 

[SunlitComet]

it is easier to use a kit from a good source of products. the wiring itself is good enough to hold up be exposed to temps that exceed 250°+. you can make one but unless you get good wires and parts it may falter. this one is done for you.

 

[lucasbrackins]

rewired for the 4-high conversion and broke out the ole volt meter and started checking and here is what i got
on low beams i had
13.7 at the battery,
relay in was 13.7
relay trip was 13.4
power to the ballast was 13.4

on high beams (all 4)
battery 13.5
relay power (high,low) 13.5
low trip was 12.2 high trip was 13.1
low ballast 13.01 high ballast was 13

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i have 13 volts on the high side if the diode but only 12.4 on the low

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with the relay for the 4 high i was having this problem every time

 

[SunlitComet]

explain this low trip you are listing. but it sound like something is wrong with the low out beam outputs from the relay to lamps. regardell you should have enoogn at 12 v to run everything. on you lose one light is it the same one?

 

[lucasbrackins]

How to wire up the 4-HI mod.

The low trip is the wire that closes the low relay

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The owner of the company designs his own ballasts and said that if the power flickers the relay will shut its self off

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97% of the time it is the passenger side low beam that i lose when switching from high to low, i switched the high and low ballasts on that side to eliminate a ballast problem as well as switched the bulbs but still have the same problem, it works fine with the factory halogen bulbs with the HID relay harnesses

 

[SunlitComet]

link to said company and products for study. i want exact details on how the relay shuts down on flickering so the low trigger wire is fed from the vehicle head switch. would look into seeing the factory wiring and switch is dragging the volts down.


measure volts at lighting maxifuse 50a under hood. on back of head switch, volts on the biggest red wire. and volts on the yellow when turned on and finally volt on light green before it enters relay harness. please.

 

[lucasbrackins]

14.8 at the maxifuse and 13.1 on light green before relay, biggest red wire is 13.9 and yellow when turned on is 13.7 the companys website doesnt have info like that on it

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i put a 80a in instead of 50 and it fixed the problem i was having with losing a drl when going from headlights to drls

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i thiink the diode is the problem considering i have a .6v loss just through the diode

 

[SunlitComet]

of course it doesn't. cant have any info to understand how the hell its made and whats it made off now can we. you might want to jiggle your wires bundles to move terminals around to get a cleaner connection on them might boost the voltage downstream a bit but like not a whole lot due to age or wire size. but with those volts still you should have no problem running high and low ballasts. if they are all all and suddenly one lamp fails with out touching anything swap out the ballast and bulb.
i am sorry but if you are sure the grounds everywhere are good and you only loose one light there is really nothing else to try.

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Remove the 80 AMP fuse immidiaetly. You are creating a fire risk.

if you want try another 50amp fuse go ahead. the wire on that fuse can not deal with a continous 80 amp flowing three it so if the wire after the fuse shorted you can likely kiss your vehicle good bye.

 

[lucasbrackins]

its not just one side it jumps back and forth i even switched out the high and low relay harnesses to make sure it wasnt a wiring problem with them

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how about a 60 still too much?

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well went back to a 50 and the pporblem is gone now

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It has to be the diode because they only do it when its in there

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if you flip between high and low fast it works fine but when you go slow is when i lose a low beam

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the majority of the time it works like this fast i lose passenger side low
slow i lose driver side low???????

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do i still need to try the kit from painless?

 

[SunlitComet]

speed makes no difference. if this is all from the same seller and the sides are random then if grounds are good get the seller to replace it all. a diode does not discriminant between sides in this situation nor do relays as you system is described to me but individual ballasts or wiring condition can. the diode it not the ideal way to get a 4hi mode. even the one that is on the power line of the drl circuit under the dash is huge with a heat sink on it. i suggest you get the kit to eliminate any possibility of have to guess on diode condition.

this is getting confusing now. from post to post you say it is working then not working or vice-verse when say changing a fuse or diode or the speed at which you change modes. if you have replaced those already stop replacing them over and over. a bigger fuse does not solve this issues either. if you want to replace anything replace this stuff that the seller of your hids and harness sold you. if they have do not info on there products available for you to see and just says it works i would have not bought from them in the first place. period. it like buying goods out of the back of a van.

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just so you know there have been 76 posts in the last few days on your issue alone you really have to consider that maybe the hid/harness stuff you have might be faulty and perhaps chuck it for something else.

 

[lucasbrackins]

the only thing i have changed out from the harness kit he sent me is the relays and they are a auto zone brand i talked to my uncle who is a robotics engineer and he said to find some relays that use less amps to close???? worth a try

 

[SunlitComet]

how many amps are the drawing each?

 

[lucasbrackins]

140 mA each

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so that would be 280mA just on the high wire to activate high and low