2021 Yukon XL At4 Dead before leaving Dealer Lot

[stevedonato]

I drive past Kentucky Speedway occasionally and can confirm that the fields surrounding it are packed FULL of THOUSANDS of new Ford pickup trucks waiting for chips. I've thought the same thing, would I want a vehicle that sat in a farm field for six months? This chip thing is really throwing normal supply dynamics into a tailspin.

Did a quick search for a picture to share and found lots, but here's a video from a news story about it. Note that it's from 5 months ago, and those trucks are still piling up, so they're not just sitting for "a few weeks." Imagine the effect on the market when chips become available again and the new car market is glutted with inventory! I would guess new and used prices will drop quickly.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, just commenting on the post about getting wires chewed while waiting for chips. Seems legit.

The answer is to manufacture chips in USA. Dont you think the Car manufactures could afford to pay a litle more when they are selling SUVs and Pickups from $40-$80,000 a pop?

 

[Stbentoak]

Sorry to dissagree but 'things like this' never happen to Japanese Cars. Terrible QA at GM. Let's not forget GM's inferior brake lines in the Silverados and Sierras from 1990-2005 over 20 years and they new it but sill used them.

If a reliable Japanese mfg offered a full size diesel vehicle that could match this one, I’d seriously consider it. If the Japanese are so brilliant, why haven’t they penetrated this market?

 

[DougAMiller]

Sorry to dissagree but 'things like this' never happen to Japanese Cars. Terrible QA at GM. Let's not forget GM's inferior brake lines in the Silverados and Sierras from 1990-2005 over 20 years and they new it but sill used them.

Nope, not true. I've got a Lexus and two Acuras. I've had plenty of problems like this with all of them. Electrical, mechanical, premature failures...some quality issues, some engineering design. Actually, many more than I've had with my Tahoe and Escalade. This stuff happens everywhere.

 

[Rocket Man]

Nope, not true. I've got a Lexus and two Acuras. I've had plenty of problems like this with all of them. Electrical, mechanical, premature failures...some quality issues, some engineering design. Actually, many more than I've had with my Tahoe and Escalade. This stuff happens everywhere.

I was gonna call BS but I haven’t owned a Japanese vehicle since I was a kid and I’m real old now. I have heard the same stories about them as the American vehicles. They all use the same parts manufacturers anymore, sourced from all over the world. Plus with the complexity of today’s vehicles, it’s gonna happen especially on the brand new platforms. Wishful thinking though.

 

[Mooseman93]

The answer is to manufacture chips in USA. Dont you think the Car manufactures could afford to pay a litle more when they are selling SUVs and Pickups from $40-$80,000 a pop?

I watched a report about this maybe a month ago. They interviewed the CEO of the only chipmaker in the US. He said to add that capacity would cost billions and they still don't have the technology to do what the Taiwanese do. Their dominance of this technology is what makes them a target for a Chinese invasion (China can't make these chips either.) This would likely set off a global response that would not be good unless you're in the weapons industry.
But yes, if we could make them it would solve a lot of problems. Unfortunately it seems that is not really an option yet.

 

[steve45]

Agreed!

A lot of people today have no tolerance, patience, or any reasonable logic when they encounter a problem. Their first and only thought is go nuclear, Sue, Sue, Sue, this thing is a piece of crap, give me a new one, don’t ever buy this vehicle again, etc. etc.
I’ve had many vehicle problems, emissions issues, waited on parts for weeks and weeks and weeks, you name it. All of the things I mentioned above should be last resorts, not first thoughts…. When you’ve suffered thru some of life’s real problems, these don’t seem so big anymore….

Agreed! I didn't know that snowflakes were allowed on this forum.

The dealer immediately sent out technicians to work on it and ordered the part. Isbell is owed nothing more. If she wants to cancel the order, I'll bet there are a hundred other buyers that would jump on it.

 

[gat0r]

You all have convinced me. Keep what I got (already did BOTH banks of lifters). Really wanted a Callaway conversion (560hp) on a new Yukon XL...but too many problems listed here on 2021's. Saw an older Callaway in the parking lot: "Sir...will you please quit licking my car"! LOL LOL Man, was that thing NICE!

look for a used one although i havent seen many for sale.
mine is a hoot especially w/ brakes & sway bars added. (although just the 5.3L)

save A LOT of $$$$ if you find a used one as well.
saw one on auction site for a '16 denali w/ ~16k miles, it sold for under $45k

 

[BG1988]

My 2021 Yukon Xl / AT4 recently arrived at our local dealer. After paperwork and introduction with sales I prepared to leave the lot with the vehicle. This is my first Yukon. Completely out of nowhere the truck wouldn't start. It would crank but sounded like no gas was going to the engine. I mean I literally hadn't left the lot. The dealer had 5 techs on it quickly. I left the lot in my rented vehicle (previous car totaled) rather than wait for them to figure it out. They followed up to say it was a bad ECM and offered to order it and put me in a loaner. That is the extent of what they have offered. I was pretty chill about everything but obviously very disappointed.

Any advice out there?
What would be a realistic response from the dealer?
If this were you would you go through with the purchase? I think I have already bought the vehicle but have not taken possession. Given the current state of the car market I am not in a strong position.

Any realistic advise appreciated.

ASK for the money back it's a future lemon..

 

[Quark]

The answer is to manufacture chips in USA. Dont you think the Car manufactures could afford to pay a litle more when they are selling SUVs and Pickups from $40-$80,000 a pop?

Here's a bit of irony, Kokomo Indiana where Delco Electronics ran several fabs where chips were manufactured 24/7 and has since been closed down and outsourced. Those same lots where thousands of workers parked each day are now filled with thousands of GM trucks waiting for chips while GM begs government for seed money to make chips.

 

[Quark]

Agreed!


Agreed! I didn't know that snowflakes were allowed on this forum.

The dealer immediately sent out technicians to work on it and ordered the part. Isbell is owed nothing more. If she wants to cancel the order, I'll bet there are a hundred other buyers that would jump on it.

Let's chalk it up to lowered expectations. sad

 

[GBF1]

@Isbell400 and @frankdp23, welcome to the forum and it sucks that you are having problems with these brand new rigs. "Got my new Yukon and have plans but now they are put on hold because of this crap". The ECM problems may be related to the shortage of chips world wide but still, that price tag should guarantee you that it leaves the lot.

Have to agree. I can't believe how many problems I am hearing about with these new models. Price shouldn't`t matter, they should be perfect out the door. Unless you REALLY need one I'd wait, especially if you cannot get the exact options you want.

 

[Fireman591]

Have to agree. I can't believe how many problems I am hearing about with these new models. Price shouldn't`t matter, they should be perfect out the door. Unless you REALLY need one I'd wait, especially if you cannot get the exact options you want.

Smart move

 

[swathdiver]

GM got greedy and closed down their chip making plant some time back. It was re-opened to make ventilators and just finishing that project up while thousands of incomplete vehicles are parked outside.

It ought to be obvious but Communists seek the destruction of free societies and will subvert them at every opportunity. Only a fool would do business with them; I was once a fool.

 

[Quark]

Obama bailed them out once and they used the money to build in China.

 

[CTown Duramax]

I'm sorry to hear about your AT4. You sound level headed. I don't know if I'd have kept my cool as well.

These kinds of reports bother me, but I am going to have faith. My grandparents, parents and I bought almost exclusively GM for literally over 100 years. (See grandma in one of her Chevys) In the last 30 years, I've had two bathtub Caprices (the best), a Z28 convertible, a Deville and a 2016 Impala. All hassle free, well built, big solid reliable American cars. All our Caddys, Buicks, Pontiacs and Chevys have been great, no exceptions. Toyota reliability without being tinny imports.

I traded in my low milage bulletproof Impala V6 on my diesel Hoe four days ago. The Impala ran like a top for 70k miles. I hesitated to give it up.

Then I read about these problems with the Hoes, throwing lifters, leaking sunroofs. This should not be happening.

 

[Geotrash]

I'm sorry to hear about your AT4. You sound level headed. I don't know if I'd have kept my cool as well.

These kinds of reports bother me, but I am going to have faith. My grandparents, parents and I bought almost exclusively GM for literally over 100 years. (See grandma in one of her Chevys) In the last 30 years, I've had two bathtub Caprices (the best), a Z28 convertible, a Deville and a 2016 Impala. All hassle free, well built, big solid reliable American cars. All our Caddys, Buicks, Pontiacs and Chevys have been great, no exceptions. Toyota reliability without being tinny imports.

I traded in my low milage bulletproof Impala V6 on my diesel Hoe four days ago. The Impala ran like a top for 70k miles. I hesitated to give it up.

Then I read about these problems with the Hoes, throwing lifters, leaking sunroofs. This should not be happening.

Love that pic of grandma. She looks like a badass woman!

 

[Rocket Man]

The story about my Grandma is she never drove her entire life until she was about 40 and widowed and my dad tried to teach her but one day she got in the family car and drove through the back wall of the garage thinking it was in reverse. That was in the 1940’s so of course it was a stick shift. She couldn’t be persuaded to drive again.

 

[steiny93]

Would I go through with the purchase, hell no. Tell them you want out or you'll be talking to an attorney.

truck doesn't start, evoke threat of lawsuit...
sounds like a true Karen in the wild

 

[Isbell400]

Lost track of the replies but after initially saying the Yukon had ECM problem, it was actually the fuse block. It seemed a fuse was not property gapped and so it caused all sorts of issues when the car moved. Took possession 5 days later after the dealer offered a full 100k warranty from GM. Seemed fair. Drove about 1500 miles and no other issues yet.

 

[Quark]

truck doesn't start, evoke threat of lawsuit...
sounds like a true Karen in the wild

Better than being a pushover or easy mark. I thought 70s quality was bad but I never heard of one not making it off the lot. You work for a dealership?