2012 suburban disappointment

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swathdiver

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I noticed about 2 weeks ago that the driver's side rear-most bolt head on mine is gone. That's the only one currently. I'm tempted to buy new ARP manifold bolts/studs and proactively swap them all out, but wonder how many will break when removing them.
Going to do my driver's side when it cools down and replace the studs and nuts on both manifolds, Fel-Pro ES75120 and ES75106. If going ARP, Mark told me to use 134-1102s.
 

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You are complaining about two things, both of which are known problems. You did not give mileage, or else I blew by it. I'm guessing lots of miles on it. You need to expect that stuff to happen. They are common to these trucks. You should have done due diligence. It might have taken 10 minutes of this forum for the UH-RO light to flash

First, the top line mechanics earn dealerships a ton of money working on the above. They will do a visual inspection of oil changes looking for work. The high school shop boy changes oil and filters. Many times filters are torqued to 80 ft lbs or 1" lb. Many times the drain bolt will be torqued to 1/2 inch lb or 120 ft lbs. Independent chains step down to junior high kids for oil changes. You need to understand that and expect it.

You should expect to work on 10-15 year old cars. I do my own oil changes. I have never had anything to complain about. Of course I doubt I would listen to myself anyway.

I owned a 2011 Yukon Denali XL with 203,000 miles when sold. Had the broken manifold bolts. Told by my independent tech that is a common problem and easy to fix (at least to him). And it was and much less than I expected. My labor is calculated in dog years.

Never heard the first complaint from my V4/V8. On the two lane rural highways it could easily see redline passing cars. Changed oil and filters myself. Never burned oil. 10,000 miles AMSOIL, 5,000 miles AMSOIL filters. Never replaced AFM, water pump, fuel pump. I did the occasional 75,000 mile brake job. Replaced the MagnaRides only because I was about to embark on a series of serious road trips. I replaced the air compressor and upgraded the sway bars. That is it. If I could buy a new 2011 I wouild do it again. But not a serious high mileage one. And I would expect it to break. I have a very good independent shop.

The dash breakup pissed me off too.

Find yourself a well respected independent shop. First, if they are well respected they probably retain and pay top line mechanics at the equivalent of slightly higher payouts at lower hourly shop prices. Know that dealerships run through mechanics like stink through shit. They don't pay them what they are worth, and charge much higher hourly rates than independents.

A well respected Cadillac dealer in Dallas fired a buddy of mine who had been there 15 years because they were paying out too much money. He was the top producing mechanic in the entire 8 shop chain because he consistently beat book times by a lot. My buddy opened his own shop with another two Cadillac mechanics and did very well. I met him through the old shop manager, who was a friend of mine. He understood the need to pay him because he was making them a ton of money. So they fired him too.

I ended up with an excellent mechanic much less expensive than the Cadillac dealer.

Good luck. Your entertainment is nowhere near over. Stay close to this forum.
 

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You are complaining about two things, both of which are known problems. You did not give mileage, or else I blew by it. I'm guessing lots of miles on it. You need to expect that stuff to happen. They are common to these trucks. You should have done due diligence. It might have taken 10 minutes of this forum for the UH-RO light to flash

First, the top line mechanics earn dealerships a ton of money working on the above. They will do a visual inspection of oil changes looking for work. The high school shop boy changes oil and filters. Many times filters are torqued to 80 ft lbs or 1" lb. Many times the drain bolt will be torqued to 1/2 inch lb or 120 ft lbs. Independent chains step down to junior high kids for oil changes. You need to understand that and expect it.

You should expect to work on 10-15 year old cars. I do my own oil changes. I have never had anything to complain about. Of course I doubt I would listen to myself anyway.

I owned a 2011 Yukon Denali XL with 203,000 miles when sold. Had the broken manifold bolts. Told by my independent tech that is a common problem and easy to fix (at least to him). And it was and much less than I expected. My labor is calculated in dog years.

Never heard the first complaint from my V4/V8. On the two lane rural highways it could easily see redline passing cars. Changed oil and filters myself. Never burned oil. 10,000 miles AMSOIL, 5,000 miles AMSOIL filters. Never replaced AFM, water pump, fuel pump. I did the occasional 75,000 mile brake job. Replaced the MagnaRides only because I was about to embark on a series of serious road trips. I replaced the air compressor and upgraded the sway bars. That is it. If I could buy a new 2011 I wouild do it again. But not a serious high mileage one. And I would expect it to break. I have a very good independent shop.

The dash breakup pissed me off too.

Find yourself a well respected independent shop. First, if they are well respected they probably retain and pay top line mechanics at the equivalent of slightly higher payouts at lower hourly shop prices. Know that dealerships run through mechanics like stink through shit. They don't pay them what they are worth, and charge much higher hourly rates than independents.

A well respected Cadillac dealer in Dallas fired a buddy of mine who had been there 15 years because they were paying out too much money. He was the top producing mechanic in the entire 8 shop chain because he consistently beat book times by a lot. My buddy opened his own shop with another two Cadillac mechanics and did very well. I met him through the old shop manager, who was a friend of mine. He understood the need to pay him because he was making them a ton of money. So they fired him too.

I ended up with an excellent mechanic much less expensive than the Cadillac dealer.

Good luck. Your entertainment is nowhere near over. Stay close to this forum.


just as an FYI, this thread is from 2022.
 

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just as an FYI, this thread is from 2022.
And he put in so much effort, such details although I admit I didn’t read it. I was just wondering why I was getting an alert about something posted 3 years ago. Sheesh. :p :p :p
 

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