Have you installed the Viper 791XV?

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Hey Guys,

My Buddy just gave me his Viper 791XVthat he pulled out of his last car. I'm hoping to find a DIY thread on the install. Has anyone done this one before? Do you have a write up with pics?

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I have this remote start on my truck - I will say make sure its installed properly - can sure cause some damage to the starter and other electronics if its not. I'd just pay someone to have it installed professionally.
 
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I believe you!.......and I am in fact a certified installer myself. I'm just aware of the risks you speak of, which is why I'm looking for someone who has already done it. Hopefully I can get some tips and a write up.

Thanks for your quick respose!
 

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Sorry I dont have install info for you - I just warned you from a bad previous experience I had with a viper remote start installed on one of my Grand Cherokee's.

LONG story short.. the thing was "professionally" installed at a stereo shop...

Go out to my car and it turns out the truck was CRANKING for 35 minutes...
Had to have entire alarm replaced... Engine flywheel, Starter, and misc stuff. It was a MESS

The installer used those damn Scotch locks under the dash, and mis-wired one of the modules that "talks" to the factory alarm and locks...

DEI even got involved and I got everything paid for but just a few stupid mistakes cost thousands of $$$

Sorry I don't have any specific info on the install - but I can say I have the full 1 mile range version of this and its a great system!!
 

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If you've never installed an alarm or rs system before, then have it professionally installed by a competent and reputable shop, or at least have an experienced fellow installer help guide you through the install. I've been installing for almost 20 yrs and have seen way too many bad installs go very wrong by DIY'ers and inexperienced "certified installers". I've seen a dash catch fire, thousand dollar pcm/bcm repairs and replacements, etc.
If you decide to tackle this yourself, make sure you have as much wiring info as possible and most importantly verify the info with a dmm. Wiring guides are not always correct, whether it's from DEI, Audiovox, Scosche, etc. And depending on your year vehicle, you may or may not need an interface for the locks and PLII/III system.
The best way to splice wires is solder and heat shrink. Crimp style connectors, especially Scotchlocks and t-taps are very unreliable, especially in an environment with constant vibration such as a vehicle. Not only can they come loose, but they also hinder performance because they cause more resistance to current flow, especially in higher drawing circuits associated with RS systems.
The 791xv is nice and is the same model I have in my truck. If you have heated seats, you can connect a channel to the seats. I have my aux channels wired to turn on my heated seats, rear window and mirror defrost, window roll up/dn, and headlight activation.
Feel free to PM me if you install the system yourself and have any questions.
 
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Sorry I dont have install info for you - I just warned you from a bad previous experience I had with a viper remote start installed on one of my Grand Cherokee's.

LONG story short.. the thing was "professionally" installed at a stereo shop...

Go out to my car and it turns out the truck was CRANKING for 35 minutes...
Had to have entire alarm replaced... Engine flywheel, Starter, and misc stuff. It was a MESS

The installer used those damn Scotch locks under the dash, and mis-wired one of the modules that "talks" to the factory alarm and locks...

DEI even got involved and I got everything paid for but just a few stupid mistakes cost thousands of $$$

Sorry I don't have any specific info on the install - but I can say I have the full 1 mile range version of this and its a great system!!


Thanks for the heads up! Sorry to hear.


If you've never installed an alarm or rs system before, then have it professionally installed by a competent and reputable shop, or at least have an experienced fellow installer help guide you through the install. I've been installing for almost 20 yrs and have seen way too many bad installs go very wrong by DIY'ers and inexperienced "certified installers". I've seen a dash catch fire, thousand dollar pcm/bcm repairs and replacements, etc.
If you decide to tackle this yourself, make sure you have as much wiring info as possible and most importantly verify the info with a dmm. Wiring guides are not always correct, whether it's from DEI, Audiovox, Scosche, etc. And depending on your year vehicle, you may or may not need an interface for the locks and PLII/III system.
The best way to splice wires is solder and heat shrink. Crimp style connectors, especially Scotchlocks and t-taps are very unreliable, especially in an environment with constant vibration such as a vehicle. Not only can they come loose, but they also hinder performance because they cause more resistance to current flow, especially in higher drawing circuits associated with RS systems.
The 791xv is nice and is the same model I have in my truck. If you have heated seats, you can connect a channel to the seats. I have my aux channels wired to turn on my heated seats, rear window and mirror defrost, window roll up/dn, and headlight activation.
Feel free to PM me if you install the system yourself and have any questions.


You and I are on the exact same page. I have installed full feature Vipers successfully, but I'm a Computer Systems Engineer, not a Car Stereo Installer. I only got my MECP for fun. My Dad was a mechanic for 30 years before he died, and I've always been into cars & car audio. I am 100% capable of doing this myself, but I have really high standards when it comes to stuff like this. I'd rather pay someone else to do it. The only problem I have with that, is that every time I pay someone else to do something to my shit, they do a worse job than I could do. I don't do "half-ass", but many others seem to. I also don't trust myself to do it without some sort of write up w/pics. I won't touch something like this w/o all the details first, which is why I was hoping someone had made a DIY about it already.

If I can get the info I need, and decide to do it myself, I'll do the write up on it for everybody else. I'm just not ready to commit yet. Not w/o complete instruction. I might call Viper and have them walk me through it.

You wouldn't happen to have a write up w/pics, would you?

Thanks for the offer to help BTW! Much appreciation for that.
 

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how much different is the 791XV compared to the 5701? I installed my 5701 myself.
 
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That's a good question! It doesn't really matter much to me how different they are. All I'm looking for are discriptions of where each GM wire is, and what the corresponding factory wire colors are. I can figure out the rest.

Thanks for the bump too!
 

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I have alldata with wiring diagrams and pinouts. If you tell me what year and engine you have I can see if they have all of the diagrams you need. Might help if you list all components need such as bcm, pcm, dlc, and such. Just let me know.
 
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I have alldata with wiring diagrams and pinouts. If you tell me what year and engine you have I can see if they have all of the diagrams you need. Might help if you list all components need such as bcm, pcm, dlc, and such. Just let me know.

Beautiful! Thank you!


'03 Yukon SLT/SLE
Without Onstar, but with Digital DIC
4.8L 2WD

I don't understand what you mean when you ask me to list the other components. Were there different BCMs & PCMs in the same generation trucks?


Thanks again!
 

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Don't know if they had them or not but I will pull up what I can. Most diagrams have wire color as well as function. I will try the BCM/PCM and see if that is what you need. Give me about 10 minutes.

Here is the link to the diagrams. It is every connector for the BCM, PCM, and DLC. Let me know if you need anymore.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xj7co2
 
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you'll most likely need a bypass module.

with the bypass module, you'll really only make about 10 or so connections to the truck. the rest is all handled through the module.
 
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Don't know if they had them or not but I will pull up what I can. Most diagrams have wire color as well as function. I will try the BCM/PCM and see if that is what you need. Give me about 10 minutes.

Here is the link to the diagrams. It is every connector for the BCM, PCM, and DLC. Let me know if you need anymore.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xj7co2


That's awesome man! Thank you so much!


you'll most likely need a bypass module.

with the bypass module, you'll really only make about 10 or so connections to the truck. the rest is all handled through the module.


Can you elaborate please? I have the Clifford Blackjack to go with it as well, but I don't really want to install that in this truck. Do you have a link to somewhere that has these bypass modules?


Thanks again guys! Much respect!
 

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You will need a bypass/integration module to interface with the doorlocks and to bypass the Passlock anti theft system so it will be able to remote start.

As far as the wiring, here you go! Here is any and all wiring info you will need for your truck.

Audio/Mobile Video
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery ORANGE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Accesory
THE RADIO HARNESS DOES NOT PROVIDE A SWITCHED POWER SOURCE.
Ground BLACK/WHITE (-) RADIO HARNESS
Illumination BROWN (+) RADIO HARNESS
Dimmer GRAY (+) RADIO HARNESS
LF Speaker (+) TAN
LF Speaker (-) GRAY
RF Speaker (+) LIGHT GREEN
RF Speaker (-) DARK GREEN
LR Speaker (+) BROWN
LR Speaker (-) YELLOW
RR Speaker (+) DARK BLUE
RR Speaker (-) LIGHT BLUE
Steering Cntrls YES
THIS VEHICLE MAY BE EQUIPPED WITH OPTIONAL ONSTAR® TELEMATICS EQUIPMENT. USE AN APPROPRIATE INTEGRATION HARNESS OR INSTALLATION PROCEDURE TO ENSURE PROPER FUNCTION OF THIS EQUIPMENT.
Speed Cntrl YES
Radio Security YES

Security
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery RED AND(RED/WHITE) (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger GRAY/BLACK (-) AT COURTESY LIGHT UNDER DASH
Domelight Super GRAY/BLACK (+) IN HARNESS AT VEHICLE DOMELIGHT
LF Latch GRAY/BLACK (-) AT BCM
RF Latch BLACK/WHITE (-) AT BCM
LR Latch LIGHT BLUE/BLACK (-) AT BCM
RR Latch LIGHT GREEN/BLACK (-) AT BCM
Trunk/hatch Trigger PINK/BLACK (-) AT BCM
Parking Lights BROWN (+) DRIVERS KICK PANEL
Low Crr Pk Lights GRAY/BLACK (-) AT LIGHT SWITCH HARNESS
Data Bus UNDER DRIVERS DASH

Convenience
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Headlights-Lo PINK OR WHITE (-) HEADLIGHT
LF Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT FRONT LEFT PARKING LIGHT
RF Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT FRONT RIGHT PARKING LIGHT
LR Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT REAR LEFT PARKING LIGHT
RR Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT REAR RIGHT PARKING LIGHT
Parking Brake LIGHT BLUE (-) AT SWITCH ON PARK BRAKE

Remote Start
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery RED AND(RED/WHITE) (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 2 WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 1 ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 2 BROWN (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Anti-Theft Type PASSLOCK II
Anti-Theft Descript A RESISTANCE BASED SYSTEM
Key Sense LIGHT GREEN (-) AT STEERING COLUMN
Tachometer AT FUEL INJECTOR (-) USE THE UNCOMMON COLOR AT ANY INJECTOR
Speed Sense DARK GREEN/WHITE (AC) RADIO HARNESS
Parking Lights BROWN (+) DRIVERS KICK PANEL
Low Crr. Pk Lights GRAY/BLACK (-) AT LIGHT SWITCH HARNESS
Brake Lights WHITE (+) AT THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH
Reverse Lights LIGHT GREEN (+) AT BCM MODULE UNDER DRIVER SIDE DASH
Horn BLACK OR(BLACK/YELLOW) (-) AT STEERING COLUMN
Modules
WIRE LOCATION
Module 1 BCM - LOACATED IN FRONT OF FUSEBOX
Doorlocks/Windows
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Databus Wire PURPLE AT DIAGNOSTIC PLUG
Power Unlock CLASS 2 DATA (REV) AVXGMDL4 OR 5 WIRES DOOR
*TO INTEGRATE WITH THE OEM DOOR LOCKS AT ANOTHER PLACE IN THE VEHICLE, YOU WILL NEED A MULTIPLEX ADAPTER.
PowerLock CLASS 2 DATA (REV) AVXGMDL4 OR 5 WIRES DOOR
*TO INTEGRATE WITH THE OEM DOOR LOCKS AT ANOTHER PLACE IN THE VEHICLE, YOU WILL NEED A MULTIPLEX ADAPTER.
Driver Mtr Unlock TAN (REV) DRIVERS DOOR MODULE
Driver Mtr Lock GRAY (REV) DRIVERS DOOR MODULE
Pas Mtr Unlock TAN (REV) AT MOTOR IN DOOR
Pas Mtr Lock GRAY (REV) AT MOTOR IN DOOR
LF Window Up BLUE (REV) DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
LF Window Dn BROWN (REV) DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
RF Window Up BLUE (REV) PASS DOOR SWITCH
RF Window Dn BROWN (REV) PASS DOOR SWITCH
LR Window Up BLUE (REV) REAR DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
LR Window Dn BROWN (REV) REAR DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
RR Window Up BLUE (REV) REAR PASSENGER DOOR SWITCH
RR Window Dn BROWN (REV) REAR PASSENGER DOOR SWITCH
 
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You will need a bypass/integration module to interface with the doorlocks and to bypass the Passlock anti theft system so it will be able to remote start.

As far as the wiring, here you go! Here is any and all wiring info you will need for your truck.

Audio/Mobile Video
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery ORANGE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Accesory
THE RADIO HARNESS DOES NOT PROVIDE A SWITCHED POWER SOURCE.
Ground BLACK/WHITE (-) RADIO HARNESS
Illumination BROWN (+) RADIO HARNESS
Dimmer GRAY (+) RADIO HARNESS
LF Speaker (+) TAN
LF Speaker (-) GRAY
RF Speaker (+) LIGHT GREEN
RF Speaker (-) DARK GREEN
LR Speaker (+) BROWN
LR Speaker (-) YELLOW
RR Speaker (+) DARK BLUE
RR Speaker (-) LIGHT BLUE
Steering Cntrls YES
THIS VEHICLE MAY BE EQUIPPED WITH OPTIONAL ONSTAR® TELEMATICS EQUIPMENT. USE AN APPROPRIATE INTEGRATION HARNESS OR INSTALLATION PROCEDURE TO ENSURE PROPER FUNCTION OF THIS EQUIPMENT.
Speed Cntrl YES
Radio Security YES

Security
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery RED AND(RED/WHITE) (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger GRAY/BLACK (-) AT COURTESY LIGHT UNDER DASH
Domelight Super GRAY/BLACK (+) IN HARNESS AT VEHICLE DOMELIGHT
LF Latch GRAY/BLACK (-) AT BCM
RF Latch BLACK/WHITE (-) AT BCM
LR Latch LIGHT BLUE/BLACK (-) AT BCM
RR Latch LIGHT GREEN/BLACK (-) AT BCM
Trunk/hatch Trigger PINK/BLACK (-) AT BCM
Parking Lights BROWN (+) DRIVERS KICK PANEL
Low Crr Pk Lights GRAY/BLACK (-) AT LIGHT SWITCH HARNESS
Data Bus UNDER DRIVERS DASH

Convenience
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Headlights-Lo PINK OR WHITE (-) HEADLIGHT
LF Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT FRONT LEFT PARKING LIGHT
RF Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT FRONT RIGHT PARKING LIGHT
LR Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT REAR LEFT PARKING LIGHT
RR Pk Lt Bulb BROWN (+) AT REAR RIGHT PARKING LIGHT
Parking Brake LIGHT BLUE (-) AT SWITCH ON PARK BRAKE

Remote Start
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery RED AND(RED/WHITE) (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1 PINK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 2 WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 1 ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 2 BROWN (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Anti-Theft Type PASSLOCK II
Anti-Theft Descript A RESISTANCE BASED SYSTEM
Key Sense LIGHT GREEN (-) AT STEERING COLUMN
Tachometer AT FUEL INJECTOR (-) USE THE UNCOMMON COLOR AT ANY INJECTOR
Speed Sense DARK GREEN/WHITE (AC) RADIO HARNESS
Parking Lights BROWN (+) DRIVERS KICK PANEL
Low Crr. Pk Lights GRAY/BLACK (-) AT LIGHT SWITCH HARNESS
Brake Lights WHITE (+) AT THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH
Reverse Lights LIGHT GREEN (+) AT BCM MODULE UNDER DRIVER SIDE DASH
Horn BLACK OR(BLACK/YELLOW) (-) AT STEERING COLUMN
Modules
WIRE LOCATION
Module 1 BCM - LOACATED IN FRONT OF FUSEBOX
Doorlocks/Windows
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Databus Wire PURPLE AT DIAGNOSTIC PLUG
Power Unlock CLASS 2 DATA (REV) AVXGMDL4 OR 5 WIRES DOOR
*TO INTEGRATE WITH THE OEM DOOR LOCKS AT ANOTHER PLACE IN THE VEHICLE, YOU WILL NEED A MULTIPLEX ADAPTER.
PowerLock CLASS 2 DATA (REV) AVXGMDL4 OR 5 WIRES DOOR
*TO INTEGRATE WITH THE OEM DOOR LOCKS AT ANOTHER PLACE IN THE VEHICLE, YOU WILL NEED A MULTIPLEX ADAPTER.
Driver Mtr Unlock TAN (REV) DRIVERS DOOR MODULE
Driver Mtr Lock GRAY (REV) DRIVERS DOOR MODULE
Pas Mtr Unlock TAN (REV) AT MOTOR IN DOOR
Pas Mtr Lock GRAY (REV) AT MOTOR IN DOOR
LF Window Up BLUE (REV) DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
LF Window Dn BROWN (REV) DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
RF Window Up BLUE (REV) PASS DOOR SWITCH
RF Window Dn BROWN (REV) PASS DOOR SWITCH
LR Window Up BLUE (REV) REAR DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
LR Window Dn BROWN (REV) REAR DRIVERS DOOR SWITCH
RR Window Up BLUE (REV) REAR PASSENGER DOOR SWITCH
RR Window Dn BROWN (REV) REAR PASSENGER DOOR SWITCH



******' Scotty! You consistently come through Brother! Thank you so much!!!
 

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good luck. i'm not sure if i would even do mine myself again. i still have the window module to install and i have exactly 0 desire to cram myself up under the dash again for the better part of a weekend. lol
 

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