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Neighbors 2021 GMC 1500 stolen within 2 mins in the early morning hours. They cut the horn, used an Autel style keyfob programming tool and drove the truck out effortlessly

They are getting an IGLA immobilizer put in on the new vehicle sometime next week

Just wanted to post this here as it was shocking to me on how easy it was to steal the modern truck
 
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I'm pretty sure anyone with good working knowledge with computers can easily steal them.
 

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Is that trick possible for my 2005 Yukon?
If so...... I'll check out that RFID box.

2005 ? You have a keyed ignition system. Those are, believe it or not, less prone to theft nowadays versus the keyless systems.

The keyless systems are extremely susceptible to theft because thieves can case your house, and use a signal amplifier to pick up your key fob’s data, and then use some contraption like a signal cloner to clone that data from your key fob to their own “blank” (not yet programmed) key fob. Then, later on, they can come back with “their” new “keys” to your vehicle, and easily take it. No fuss, no sweat, no broken glass, no commotion. It’s easy, they’re in, they’re out, your car’s gone, you’re pissed.

But with a keyed ignition this is basically impossible. Even if a thief was able to clone your fob data, they would still need the physical key to steal your truck, which they wouldn’t have. So your truck would be more prone to being hotwired but that’s probably pretty unlikely nowadays.

Nowadays if you own a vehicle with keyless entry but do not own an rfid blocking box and keep your keys in it, you’re either a gambler or naive
 
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RFID blocking box.. keep fob inside

Signal can’t be read, truck cannot be stolen [easily] . . .

Take my advice,

We learned the hard way . . .

For the type of theft the OP talked about, the RFID blocking box won't do anything.

For key skimming (where they copy and clone an existing key) the box will help, but for when they re-program the PCM to accept a new key, it doesn't matter.
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For the type of theft the OP talked about, the RFID blocking box won't do anything.

For key skimming (where they copy and clone an existing key) the box will help, but for when they re-program the PCM to accept a new key, it doesn't matter.
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Wow. Re-program the PCM? Remotely? That’s a new one by me.

All the more reason why keyless entry is one of the dumbest things ever. Somewhere right in the middle of cylinder deactivation and as/s.

Flame me all you want but if it happens to you, you’ll be singing a different tune.
 

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Wow. Re-program the PCM? Remotely? That’s a new one by me.

All the more reason why keyless entry is one of the dumbest things ever. Somewhere right in the middle of cylinder deactivation and as/s.

Flame me all you want but if it happens to you, you’ll be singing a different tune.

No, not remotely, for PCM reprogram you have to be plugged into the OBD2 port. If it could be done remotely they wouldn't have needed to cut the "cut the horn" as the OP stated.

Key cloning (where your RFID blocking box would help) is not technically done remotely either (but is done wirelessly) as you have to be in proximately of a key fob, but a lot of people leave their keys on a hook close to the door, so a theft can get within range of the fob without ever being inside the house and clone the fob while standing on the front porch.
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Wow. Re-program the PCM? Remotely? That’s a new one by me.

All the more reason why keyless entry is one of the dumbest things ever. Somewhere right in the middle of cylinder deactivation and as/s.

Flame me all you want but if it happens to you, you’ll be singing a different tune.
they have to gain entry and use the obd port
and 2 minutes is pretty fast, they had to have had retrieved the vin number ahead of time to create a file to do it that quickly
with the file prepped and there remote tied to it, all they would have to do is plug into the obd, write the file and then drive away,
someone needs to review security footage from the time prior to see when they recorded the vin which easy to do thru the window.
as a precaution existing owners can cover the vin tag to make it more difficult, a piece of paper or anything you can think of will work.
the vin could still be gained a variety of different ways, but if it is covered at least they can't just do a walk up.
 

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they have to gain entry and use the obd port
and 2 minutes is pretty fast, they had to have had retrieved the vin number ahead of time to create a file to do it that quickly
with the file prepped and there remote tied to it, all they would have to do is plug into the obd, write the file and then drive away,
someone needs to review security footage from the time prior to see when they recorded the vin which easy to do thru the window.
as a precaution existing owners can cover the vin tag to make it more difficult, a piece of paper or anything you can think of will work.
the vin could still be gained a variety of different ways, but if it is covered at least they can't just do a walk up.

i actually used to keep an old parking pass from a beach condo in the front window of my truck which obscured the VIN#. It was keyed ignition, and I wasn’t doing it for this particular reason, but more for privacy anyways. It’s no one’s business what the VIN of my vehicle is, even though there’s no personal information tied to it. (At least not unless you have access to gov’t systems).

— but, that’s a good idea though for those with keyless systems to hide the vin to make it a bit harder on a criminal.

Maybe get a train horn tied to the alarm, in addition to the stock horn. If they cut the stock horn and open the door, the train horn blasts their eardrums out and sends em running.

It sucks but these bastards will try anything other than get a real job and work for a living.
 

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Maybe get a train horn tied to the alarm, in addition to the stock horn. If they cut the stock horn and open the door, the train horn blasts their eardrums out and sends em running.

It sucks but these bastards will try anything other than get a real job and work for a living.

Or,,, park the almost $100k SUV in the garage.

These things aren't cheap, I'm guessing anyone that can afford one also has a garage available to them. If not, maybe those people should re-evaluate their life choices about what they choose to spend large sums of money on.
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Neighbors 2021 GMC 1500 stolen within 2 mins in the early morning hours. They cut the horn, used an Autel style keyfob programming tool and drove the truck out effortlessly

They are getting an IGLA immobilizer put in on the new vehicle sometime next week

Just wanted to post this here as it was shocking to me on how easy it was to steal the modern truck
My 22 Denali was stolen in this exact way. I purchased a '23 Denali to replace it and did the following:

-IGLA
-Compustar Drone X2
-OBD Blocker
-Farraday box for my keys

Lesson learned the hard way.
 

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Or,,, park the almost $100k SUV in the garage.

These things aren't cheap, I'm guessing anyone that can afford one also has a garage available to them. If not, maybe those people should re-evaluate their life choices about what they choose to spend large sums of money on.
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And, if they managed to get into your garage ? .. then what ?

Or, if you’re well enough off, you have several high priced vehicles , something tells me the 68 corvette or AMG Benz will get the garage space and the Tahoe sits outside in the driveway. .. then what?

You can check all the boxes; garage, alarm, rfid blocking , gated community, etc.. but if people are desperate enough . . .

They stole my lady’s car. It wasn’t a super expensive vehicle. But it hurt. We own property, where we live it’s not the best area, but we do not have a garage. High traffic, lots of vagrants and transients around. Yes, we are looking to move. But things like this take time.

I’m just saying, there’s no right or wrong way to live your life — if you’re not a criminal doing bad things to further yourself at other people’s expense.

Unfortunately, you may have to take extra precautions to protect yourself and your assets.
 

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I believe there’s a wiring mod that relocates the horn’s wiring harness somewhere less accessible from the grill.

I do like @PPV_2018 idea of blasting them with a second horn. Maybe wire up a circuit which will activate a second horn if the wiring harness is cut.

A buddies Centennial Edition got flat bedded at work while we were no more than 50 feet away inside the hangar. Security camera showed them cutting the horn then yanking it onto the flatbed.
 

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Then you shoot the bastards. And that permanently solves the repeat offender/ prison rehabilitation problem.
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You sure got the answers for everything, don’t ya brother ?

With such a large wealth of knowledge, woulda thought you would have known the range disabler didn’t actually disable dfm, only modified it’s schedule.




















(LMAO i jest ,i jest - relax :Big Laugh:)

i agree with the second amendment, but again - only effective if you happen to be there, awake and alert when it happens.
 

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A buddies Centennial Edition got flat bedded at work while we were no more than 50 feet away inside the hangar. Security camera showed them cutting the horn then yanking it onto the flatbed.

O M G . . . Disgusting world we live in.


No one heard air brakes or hydraulic bed coming down? Stuff is usually pretty noticeable from 50 feet away.


You’d think someone with a 50K $ asset like a rollback wrecker could use that thing to run..

Idk ?

A LEGITIMATE business
 

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With such a large wealth of knowledge, woulda thought you would have known the range disabler didn’t actually disable dfm, only modified it’s schedule.

I was one of the first adopters of the range dfm disabler. I was advertised as all cylinders all the time.

I found out about the same time as everyone else that Range Technology (or more appropriately "Sentinel Capital Partners" the private equity firm that owns Holley/ Range Technology) are a bunch of liars.

They even added a note on their website (that wasn't there when I bought the unit) when they figured out some customers may not be as stupid as they thought and could prove they were liars.
Screenshot picture of their website note that popped in response below to them being called out on their BS.

Range tech ********.jpg


Weird that they think an engine running during deceleration, (you know like every engine has done since cars have been a thing), would cause "an unsettling sensation". Guess every car ever produced before DFM and all those still produced by other manufactures that don't use DFM are scary as hell when you put the brakes on.
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O M G . . . Disgusting world we live in.


No one heard air brakes or hydraulic bed coming down? Stuff is usually pretty noticeable from 50 feet away.


You’d think someone with a 50K $ asset like a rollback wrecker could use that thing to run..

Idk ?

A LEGITIMATE business
We were behind a wall obstructing visual contact with running aircraft masking whatever noise they made. It was a tow behind deckover style trailers so no markings apparent and some badass winch.

It would have taken less than a smoke brake to witness but damn if they didn’t pull it off. Also - Houston.

As to some earlier shade in this thread. The 73’ lives in the garage while the wife’s merc and my burb lives in the driveway. Just the way it is in these new planned neighborhoods.

At least I can replace the new vehicles.
 

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