Did GM stop taking orders for 2021 Yukons?

[Stbentoak]

Mine came from Indianapolis and the dealer there was very fair. A little less than MSRP and only 199.00 dealer fee. I see other dealers charging 1000 + for dealer fees. Some are gangsters, but not all of them....

 

[gregtay]

OOf.

I had SUCH a bad experience at a dealership yesterday. I had been contacting various dealerships about getting a 21 Denali about 5 weeks ago. I live in the Seattle area and there were ZERO denalis on any lots, and most inventory coming in was already spoken for. I worked with a dealership here in Bellevue and put a deposit (500) down on a vehicle. I get excited and get a call about a week ago that the car has been built and has a VIN so it's time to come in and sign.

The Sticker on the vehicle was 82,800, which I was FULLY expecting to pay. When I show up, they have the purchase price of the vehicle at 95k, and they won't budge, they say that they can and will fully sell the vehicle at that price. SUCH A JOKE.

So obviously I decline, as I'm not going to pay over sticker, i hate even paying sticker. I ask for the sales manager and ask him "so, if I were to custom build and order one, would you turn around and up charge me once the vehicle is delivered" He replies, it all depends on the incentives that month. So i say, what are the incentives this month. He says there aren't any. So i again ask, if there aren't any incentives the month when my vehicle arrives, will I pay what was agreed, or can they charge me anything they want. He says it all depends.

SUCH A JOKE!

Does anyone have any advice or input? I'm just about ready to stop pursuing this vehicle until they are able to make more, or until the 22 comes out.

I went to the same dealer :-/. I'm impressed they only asked you for a $500 deposit, they wanted $5k from me to hold an incoming car. They are a GMC and Cadillac dealer... for Escalades they want.... want for it... $30k over MSRP. And they won't budge off that number. Just dumb... really really really dumb. Then I found an escalade over in Yakama, agreed to purchase it at MSRP (the dealer made a point of telling me they wouldn't do to me what Seattle dealers were doing) and while they were working on the details and taking my deposit they GM decided he wanted $10k over. I walked. So I placed an order from a dealer in Indiana that honored my Supplier discount. Well work the trouble and cost of having the car shipped to Seattle. The dealer in Olympia isn't much better, said they wanted $15k-$30k over MSRP. I called all the dealers in California that had what I wanted and they all said $10k over.

Good luck.

 

[MelloYello95]

I went to the same dealer :-/. I'm impressed they only asked you for a $500 deposit, they wanted $5k from me to hold an incoming car. They are a GMC and Cadillac dealer... for Escalades they want.... want for it... $30k over MSRP. And they won't budge off that number. Just dumb... really really really dumb. Then I found an escalade over in Yakama, agreed to purchase it at MSRP (the dealer made a point of telling me they wouldn't do to me what Seattle dealers were doing) and while they were working on the details and taking my deposit they GM decided he wanted $10k over. I walked. So I placed an order from a dealer in Indiana that honored my Supplier discount. Well work the trouble and cost of having the car shipped to Seattle. The dealer in Olympia isn't much better, said they wanted $15k-$30k over MSRP. I called all the dealers in California that had what I wanted and they all said $10k over.

Good luck.

There should be a law keeping dealers from doing this. Their straight screwing people over. Its pretty disgusting. GM shouldn't allow it too happen. Supply and demand. Its been a heck of a year.

 

[Stbentoak]

Its the same way in FL too... Over sticker and outrageous dealer fees. I found vehicles I would have bought down there, but I wouldn't do it just on principle. I knew I could do better in IN and did. I'd drive out of state before I'd pay it !

 

[ruise]

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/0...rth-america-production-by-80000-units-so-far/

 

[Mxguy741]

I also called that same dealer.

they also quoted me 12,995 over msrp and said I also had to buy their extended service package. I’m over 3 hours from them so even if I didn’t do my own services there is no way I would want that.

I did find a dealer selling for MSRP locally but I still have a hard time even doing that....

part of me wants to wait for inventory to settle out but the other part of me is thinking GM will have a price increase and I’ll be paying more later.

thoughtS????

 

[Stbentoak]

I think it is a new world order, kind of like Housing currently... In housing, the asking price is just the opener. Try to find a house in most locales today that go for less than listing price....

Same with current MY vehicles.... You certainly can find vehicles that you can buy for less than sticker, but they are not the more popular or desired ones. In the hot SUV, PU Truck, and Luxury market, supply is flying off the shelves before it ever hits the ground at a dealer. Dealers have zero incentives to give any one any thing off the sticker and in a hot market , can charge what they want. 10 days ago when I bought my Denali, the dealer I used had 11 Yukon vehicles on the ground or arriving that week listed on his website. By the end of that week they were down to 3.
With tight chips well into the future, I don't see the pressure coming off hot vehicles for at least a year....and BTW they have been sneaking up delivery charges, accessories, and any other little sidebar charges they can without changing the vehicle price. My guess is that MY 2022 order books will be a good time to throw in a decent price increase and see if it slows the pace at all.... I'm saying it won't....

 

[Banks22]

I think it is a new world order, kind of like Housing currently... In housing, the asking price is just the opener. Try to find a house in most locales today that go for less than listing price....
Same with current MY vehicles.... You certainly can find vehicles that you can buy for less than sticker, but they are not the more popular or desired ones. In the hot SUV, PU Truck, and Luxury market, supply is flying off the shelves before it ever hits the ground at a dealer. Dealers have zero incentives to give any one any thing off the sticker and in a hot market , can charge what they want. 10 days ago when I bought my Denali, the dealer I used had 11 Yukon vehicles on the ground or arriving that week listed on his website. By the end of that week they were down to 3.
With tight chips well into the future, I don't see the pressure coming off hot vehicles for at least a year....and BTW they have been sneaking up delivery charges, accessories, and any other little sidebar charges they can without changing the vehicle price. My guess is that MY 2022 order books will be a good time to throw in a decent price increase and see if it slows the pace at all.... I'm saying it won't....

GM snuck a $400 increase on delivery for new Tahoe’s over the last month.

 

[Stbentoak]

GM snuck a $400 increase on delivery for new Tahoe’s over the last month.

Yup... And I paid it !

 

[Banks22]

Yup... And I paid it !

Yea I’m about to also, don’t think there’s anyway around it. It’s a sellers market...

 

[Quark]

GM's first quarter profit is expected to be around $3 billion. I'm sure they are thankful to those who have to have it now at any cost. With the multitudes of people clamoring for things they deserve expect to pay a premium on anything those multitudes desire.

 

[gregtay]

There should be a law keeping dealers from doing this. Their straight screwing people over. Its pretty disgusting. GM shouldn't allow it too happen. Supply and demand. Its been a heck of a year.

Apparently in Canada there is a law preventing this type of thing.

 

[Stbentoak]

GM's first quarter profit is expected to be around $3 billion. I'm sure they are thankful to those who have to have it now at any cost. With the multitudes of people clamoring for things they deserve expect to pay a premium on anything those multitudes desire.

If you are shopping for vehicles in the 70-100+K Denali Esky range, you certainly aren't trying to finance it for 120 months... most buyers in this range can afford to pay whatever they feel is appropriate, be it under or over sticker, at their discretion. I personally wouldn't pay over sticker just on principle alone....But an extra few grand either way wouldn't stop most buyers at this level from buying if they wanted it...

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Not surprising, I was told last week by my dealer, if you want one, you better find one already built or in transit, other wise things were looking pretty grim...

Same here

 

[Elmer Fudd]

In central Alabama Tahoes on the lot last a week or less. Yukons don't seem to even show up, except a few Denali's

 

[Marc Marc]

Ordered my White Frost Tricoat AT4 with everything including the Max Trailering Package at the end of January, and took delivery last week. Love the car and had to pay full MSRP, no discounts. The dealers on the west coast are second stickering all the Yukons they can get.

 

[Quark]

If you are shopping for vehicles in the 70-100+K Denali Esky range, you certainly aren't trying to finance it for 120 months... most buyers in this range can afford to pay whatever they feel is appropriate, be it under or over sticker, at their discretion. I personally wouldn't pay over sticker just on principle alone....But an extra few grand either way wouldn't stop most buyers at this level from buying if they wanted it...

Do they even do 10 year auto loans? As one who gets the employee discount and could write a check for it I question the wisdom in doing so. At these prices one could buy a Mercedes, BMW or Audi. It will take more thought to choose the large GMs over the more stylish and better tech. Screw customer loyalty there is no loyalty.

 

[Marc Marc]

Do they even do 10 year auto loans? As one who gets the employee discount and could write a check for it I question the wisdom in doing so. At these prices one could buy a Mercedes, BMW or Audi. It will take more thought to choose the large GMs over the more stylish and better tech. Screw customer loyalty there is no loyalty.

Dealers here are not accepting the GM employee discount....good luck getting any discount.

 

[Quark]

Dealers here are not accepting the GM employee discount....good luck getting any discount.

I know a guy.

Find a GM town whose dealership depends heavily on employee's sales. It's really simple if you try. They were, don't know about now I'm not in the market, listing internet prices for vehicles in transit. When I buy I'll get the employee discount and a rebate or I'll buy a Lincoln, the GMs look funny anyhow.

Edit: I looked for a way to PM to you a dealership that has two in transit Premiers with a discount of $4 grand each.. They may already be sold but they are coming in steadily.

 

[B520044]

I find it crazy that those of us you purchased the first units, actually got a "so-called good" deal..... Last July, I cringed from getting a $3,583 discount off MSRP. Crazy times..

I just wonder what used models could get in this market....Especially with all options, like trailer tow package..