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You're updating all of us lol. That speaker will matter if it's not the correct impedance. Look at your other side to see if they're both labeled at 2 ohms or 4 ohms or whatever, or better yet measure them with a DVM. If the amp is designed for 2 ohms like most Bose amps are and you have a 4 ohm in there it can cause that channel to cut out intermittently as that audio IC in the amp overheats and goes into protection mode, and if it does that enough it will eventually burn that channel out. Aftermarket amps are more tolerant but OEM amps are pretty unforgiving.
 

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Swathdiver, Since youve been one of the most active ppl on this thread i figured id update you. I bought the wrong amp, so thats awesome. Im sure you could image my frustration when i got it all apart and found this out. 1. more question, could me having a regular GM Speaker in one of my doors and not a Bose GM Speaker be an issue?
I have the Bose amp from the console for sale, if you're looking for one.
 

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A higher impedance (4 Ohm versus 2 Ohm) will actually be LESS load on the amp. The problem is that channel with the higher impedance will have less output from the amp.
 

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A higher impedance (4 Ohm versus 2 Ohm) will actually be LESS load on the amp. The problem is that channel with the higher impedance will have less output from the amp.
Um sorry but you're not correct there. I was an electronic tech a long time ago and used to replace audio IC's from this very problem. Higher resistance is more load. Less load would be like one or even zero ohms or an open circuit which is no load. It's basic Ohm's law. More resistance is more load. That's why a 4 ohm speaker is half as loud as a 2 ohm.
 
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Um sorry but you're not correct there. I was an electronic tech a long time ago and used to replace audio IC's from this very problem. Higher resistance is more load. Less load would be like one or even zero ohms or an open circuit which is no load. It's basic Ohm's law. More resistance is more load. That's why a 4 ohm speaker is half as loud as a 2 ohm.

I wonder if me having the regular speaker in there and not the Bose one could be my problem. Frequlently the audio will jump up 4-6 numbers in sound but one click down and it returns to where the audio level was set. When the audio level jumps up it sounds like the area where thar regular gm speaker is louder.
 

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Got it. Has the harness for it too.
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Um sorry but you're not correct there. I was an electronic tech a long time ago and used to replace audio IC's from this very problem. Higher resistance is more load. Less load would be like one or even zero ohms or an open circuit which is no load. It's basic Ohm's law. More resistance is more load. That's why a 4 ohm speaker is half as loud as a 2 ohm.

Turns out it was a 4 ohm speaker. I pulled it out and am going to order a 2ohm. I guess I will see if the audio level jumping issue goes away while the speaker is out.
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Damn, I didn't know there was a difference in amps. I actually don't have Bose in my Hoe. Sorry to get your hopes up. What are the differences?

I truley have no idea. I have a 5600 that I ordered and it was the wrong one. Its all about half the size of the one thats in there. Maybe its bc i have DVD or navi? idk, maybe someone else can chime in.
 

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I truley have no idea. I have a 5600 that I ordered and it was the wrong one. Its all about half the size of the one thats in there. Maybe its bc i have DVD or navi? idk, maybe someone else can chime in.

Do you have the center point speaker in the dash?
 

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Amplifier, 20811234
Speaker, Instrument Panel 25798963
Speaker, Windsheild Pillar 15186674
Speaker, Woofer 15902129
Speaker, Front Side Door 15905042
Speaker, Rear Side Door 15186669
Speaker, Rear Corner 15186673

We have very similar systems and these are my part numbers. Check out Ken's thread for his comments on this system as well. The Bose systems have two amps, one dumb and the other is the high end luxury which was used on Denalis and Escalades and I think also used the speaker position in the dash for the extra channel. The dumb system cannot be worked on with the Tech2 electronically, the Luxury amp can. Again, Ken explains the differences in his thread which I posted links to a few pages ago here.
 
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Amplifier, 20811234
Speaker, Windsheild Pillar 15186674
Speaker, Woofer 15902129
Speaker, Front Side Door 15905042
Speaker, Rear Side Door 15186669
Speaker, Rear Corner 15186673

We have very similar systems and these are my part numbers. Check out Ken's thread for his comments on this system as well. The Bose systems have two amps, one dumb and the other is the high end luxury which was used on Denalis and Escalades and I think also used the speaker position in the dash for the extra channel. The dumb system cannot be worked on with the Tech2 electronically, the Luxury amp can. Again, Ken explains the differences in his thread which I posted links to a few pages ago here.

Thank you! Will check it out!
 

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Turns out it was a 4 ohm speaker. I pulled it out and am going to order a 2ohm. I guess I will see if the audio level jumping issue goes away while the speaker is out.
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I checked the specs for the one that swathdiver listed and it's supposed to be 1.9 ohm so that could be your problem. I wouldn't run the system very loud with no speaker there, probably should set the fader to the rear speakers until you get a new front just to be safe.
 
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I checked the specs for the one that swathdiver listed and it's supposed to be 1.9 ohm so that could be your problem. I wouldn't run the system very loud with no speaker there, probably should set the fader to the rear speakers until you get a new front just to be safe.

Unfortonitly Im not like you. I dont have a kick ass sound system lmao. I dont listen to crazy loud. And when I do its usally friday WHEN IM GOING HOME! So ill just relax untill that new speaker comes. Unless theres other reasons lol
 

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