Torque, meaty rubbers and pavement plus jumping off the line and hard cornering equals rogue tires. No injuries. Felt it coming and was pulling over.

[Doubeleive]

never heard of a seat belt being called a cop deflector, lol

 

[Rocket Man]

Never seen aluminum studs or lugs on a spacer. I was running 2” spacers on 26’s that had steel studs and steel lugs. You said you used the provided aluminum lugs on the factory steel studs to mount the spacer and then used the factory steel lugs on the aluminum studs that were on the spacers? That definitely is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Rocket Man]

Sorry the "wheel" is mounted using ALUMINUM studs from the spacer with the existing steel lugs.The spacers come with their own lugs which are also aluminum. Using the stock steel studs to mount the spacer with its aluminum lugs and in turn aluminum studs with existing steel lugs to mount "wheel". The failure occurred at the spacer where the steel studs are mounting the spacer. The steel studs chewed the aluminum allowing the aluminum lugs to walk. And the wheel goes for a tour. If that clarifies for you.

Since when did anybody start using aluminum studs? Or aluminum lugs? I sure wouldn’t.

 

[01 Hoe]

Never seen aluminum studs or lugs on a spacer. I was running 2” spacers on 26’s that had steel studs and steel lugs. You said you used the provided aluminum lugs on the factory steel studs to mount the spacer and then used the factory steel lugs on the aluminum studs that were on the spacers? That definitely is a recipe for disaster.

Def aluminum

 

[01 Hoe]

I've ran spacers like that before, but they were only 1" thick (35mm) and made from billit aluminum and had standard steel wheel studs/lugs pressed into them from the back to mount the wheel to.

Sounds like the aluminum they were made from couldn't stand up to the 2" thickness and the large tires.

Exactly

 

[01 Hoe]

Never seen aluminum studs or lugs on a spacer. I was running 2” spacers on 26’s that had steel studs and steel lugs. You said you used the provided aluminum lugs on the factory steel studs to mount the spacer and then used the factory steel lugs on the aluminum studs that were on the spacers? That definitely is a recipe for disa

Never seen aluminum studs or lugs on a spacer. I was running 2” spacers on 26’s that had steel studs and steel lugs. You said you used the provided aluminum lugs on the factory steel studs to mount the spacer and then used the factory steel lugs on the aluminum studs that were on the spacers? That definitely is a recipe for disaster.

 

[01 Hoe]

Pure aluminum

 

[Rocket Man]

Pure aluminum

Yes, the spacers themselves are aluminum I’m not doubting that. Nowhere does it say anything about aluminum studs or lugs. That’s what I do not understand. Never in my life have I ever heard of studs or lugs being made of aluminum, and I guarantee you if somebody sold me spacers with aluminum studs reinstalled, or aluminum lugs, I’d send them back and ask them if they’re out of their mind, especially on a truck or SUV. Maybe others have used them but I sure wouldn’t.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Pure aluminum

This is just a technicality, but 6061 T6 aluminum alloy, which your product was made out of, is far from 'pure' aluminum. With more than 2 decades of primary, extruded, and fabricated metal experience, I can certainly tell you that pure aluminum is not really much use for anything, and would be disastrous for this application.

 

[Doubeleive]

rough country is bottom of the barrel brand that might explain why...... the 4x4 shop here in town calls it garbage, there words were "that stuff is garbage" lol

 

[Rocket Man]

I notice they don’t state they’re hub-centric either. All spacers that are that I’ve seen clearly state that in the description. I’m thinking what happened here was the spacers were installed wrong ie either the wrong lugs were used in the wrong location ( aluminum lugs were meant to be used with aluminum studs) or they weren’t properly torqued onto the hubs, or they’re not hub centric which is known to be disastrous on our trucks. I used Supreme Suspension spacers and the instructions state to torque them to 140 ft lbs, then remove the wheels after 50 miles and re-torque them as well as torquing the wheels themselves to the spacers to 140 ft lbs. They are hub centric which is important otherwise all the weight is supported only by the studs instead of the hub itself like intended. And the studs and lugs sure weren’t aluminum.

 

[01 Hoe]

Pure aluminumu

Yes, the spacers themselves are aluminum I’m not doubting that. Nowhere does it say anything about aluminum studs or lugs. That’s what I do not understand. Never in my life have I ever heard of studs or lugs being made of aluminum, and I guarantee you if somebody sold me spacers with aluminum studs reinstalled, or aluminum lugs, I’d send them back and ask them if they’re out of their mind, especially on a truck or SUV. Maybe others have used them but I sure wo

Yes, the spacers themselves are aluminum I’m not doubting that. Nowhere does it say anything about aluminum studs or lugs. That’s what I do not understand. Never in my life have I ever heard of studs or lugs being made of aluminum, and I guarantee you if somebody sold me spacers with aluminum studs reinstalled, or aluminum lugs, I’d send them back and ask them if they’re out of their mind, especially on a truck or SUV. Maybe others have used them but I sure wouldn’t.

You are correct. But the existing steel studs against the aluminum spacer.....steel wins.

 

[George B]

But they use steel studs against aluminum wheels all the time plus thousands of trucks run spacers. Something was wrong with the install.

 

[01 Hoe]

But they use steel studs against aluminum wheels all the time plus thousands of trucks run spacers. Something was wr

But they use steel studs against aluminum wheels all the time plus thousands of trucks run spacers. Something was wrong with the install.

Only possible other reason could be over toque. Il take a pic of the holes. Thats a huge amount of friction even for lugs to tight. That being said, could a sticky brake pad creating more heat add to the break down? I did notice on that assembly the back side pad was much more worn down.

 

[Rocket Man]

But they use steel studs against aluminum wheels all the time plus thousands of trucks run spacers. Something was wrong with the install.

Exactly. Millions of aluminum alloy wheels out there, bolted on with steel studs and lugs. I want to see pics of these aluminum studs and lugs you’re talking about @01 Hoe.

 

[George B]

Some more photos of the failed parts would really help.

 

[01 Hoe]

Exactly. Millions of aluminum alloy wheels out there, bolted on with steel studs and lugs. I want to see pics of these aluminum studs and lugs you’re talking about @01 Hoe.

 

[gooffeyguy]

Good pics of the studs and lugs there, lol.

Have you removed the spacers from the wheels yet?

 

[George B]

Those are the same pics you posted originally. C’mon man! Post the photos of the hub on the truck and of the actual broken bits. Other wise change your title to “Incorrectly installed spacers is a safety hazard” and hand in your tools and your camera. LOL!

 

[Fless]

What year truck were these installed on?