Test drove a 2023 Tahoe/Lost front driver side wheel

[Eusibius2]

Sounds like he just wants to unload the vehicle at any cost now. Sounds like hogwash about the repairs not showing up on any reports. When I get my oil changed.... It shows up on carfax and there's no police report.

Move on.

 

[Eusibius2]

Wait.... Someone loosened all 4 wheel lugnuts and couldn't manage to get single tire off the truck??? That's total BS. Dealer is lying his butt off. Where's the police report for attempted theft? No other vehicle on the lot was impacted? Hmmmm.....


Sry, but I'm not. Your life and safety is more important than this dilapidated truck.

 

[Micahendrix]

Wait.... Someone loosened all 4 wheel lugnuts and couldn't manage to get single tire off the truck??? That's total BS. Dealer is lying his butt off. Where's the police report for attempted theft? No other vehicle on the lot was impacted? Hmmmm.....


Sry, but I'm not. Your life and safety is more important than this dilapidated truck.

I am leaning that way

 

[niteowlRN]

Run. Your wife got lucky she wasn’t hurt. I would worry each time my oil change & tire rotation if they had the wheels on right!

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Find another truck, IMO.

This

 

[Micahendrix]

No way she "pulled out" and went "one block" without hearing something or losing wheel right away, if had no lug nuts on it. It would have never been pulled out and parked without incident. What does the wheel look like. The stud closest to the caliper looks like it has remnants of lug nut pieces on it or wheel aluminum shavings.

Your wrong, she did exactly that

 

[StephenPT]

Thank you all very much for your thoughts. He told my wife the lug nuts on every wheel were loose. Said someone must have tried to steal the tires and rims the night before. Also, he said it would not show up on carfax. They use an outside repair source. Said because no police report was done. This is a very small town dealership. They said no major damage . Super nice people at dealership but I just don’t feel comfortable buying it.
Does this sound right?

That second to last sentence is the most important bit. If you don’t feel comfortable, then tell the dealer “no thank you” and move on. As I said before this is a mass produced vehicle there’s more out there and there’s more coming. Don’t lock your heart on this one just because you were close to buying it. Count your blessings that your wife wanted that last test drive and it happened before you signed papers. Good luck.

 

[Micahendrix]

My wife did not know to ask these questions: owner stated that all tires had loose lug nuts on them and we were told someone tried to steal them. Have a hard time believing that as well. She pulled out, went one block , came to stop sign turned right and during turn wheel popped off. She heard nothing. She said she didn’t even really know what happen until she saw the tire flying across the street.

 

[wjburken]

Move on.

The Salesman is trying to save the sale and his commission and will say whatever he thinks will keep the sale from walking.

 

[tom3]

For that money, and a brand new machine, I'd pass on that one too. That is a big investment and I'd want it as near perfect as possible. Every time you hear a squeak or rattle, any odd sensation while driving, you'll wonder if that was from the dealer repair.

 

[OR VietVet]

Your wrong, she did exactly that

I think you misunderstood me. I am saying that if it had NO lug nuts on it. That is the scenario I am taking about. They said it had loose lug nuts. Hard for context to relate I guess. Anyway, I am glad she is ok.

 

[BrokerThis]

As others have stated, pass on this rig and look for another. Long term will be more of a hassle than what it's worth. Dealer is just feeding you BS

Ask the dealer if you can get their next allocation to make it right, since your gut is saying that car isn't the right one for you after that issue happened.

 

[B-train]

Wow! What an adventure of a thread!

OK, so I totally agree that nothing will ever be 'factory' the same now on the driver front - mentally and physically with this truck. God looked out for you and set a road block in your path for a reason. Maybe it was because this would be a POS it's whole life. Or, maybe it was because there is something else you are meant to purchase for unknown reasons. Or, maybe he knows your financial situation and is giving you a discount on something needed for your family.

Either way, you can walk away from it and get a different widget that was made from the same factory. Or, play hardball since you have photo evidence of a poor PDI (pre delivery inspection) that they are responsible for. Go for the throat and get a sweet discount after it's repaired. They know they are F'd, so make it worth YOUR while.

 

[Micahendrix]

I think you misunderstood me. I am saying that if it had NO lug nuts on it. That is the scenario I am taking about. They said it had loose lug nuts. Hard for context to relate I guess. Anyway, I am glad she is ok.

I did read it wrong, I apologize. Great point. You are right, it does not add up

 

[GMCnewbee]

I agree with B above, ask for A LOT of financial concessions, play hardball with the Dealer, and just walk away if you don't feel good about the whole deal. My first reaction was to just walk away, but hey, if you can get something from this dealer then go for it.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

In your mind this vehicle will never be “right” fixed or not. It would be one thing if you owned it and this happened and you fixed it. It’s something entirely different now.
It’s not like a puppy from the pound that will love you forever because you saved from the pound.
This is one that will have behavioral issues

 

[Doubeleive]

lol the wheel came off people, get the deal and savor it. doesn't have any other meaning. It's a opportunity to save money on a new vehicle
I guess maybe if you have oodles of money falling out of your pockets it might be a pass but for someone like me who is poor that would be a salvation for me, no one is ever going to know while I am driving down the road.
I remember many many years ago I wanted a "newer" car and kept searching and searching and searching for the right deal then it poped up a "salvage" title for $16,000
guess what that was dam near every penny I had to my name, I went and looked at it, couldn't find even a blemish so I bought it. drove that thing to the levy....was not a dam thing wrong with it.

 

[OR VietVet]

If you do end up getting this vehicle, get drastic price concessions and a long extended warranty that starts after the bumper to bumper warranty is done.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

lol the wheel came off people, get the deal and savor it. doesn't have any other meaning. It's a opportunity to save money on a new vehicle
I guess maybe if you have oodles of money falling out of your pockets it might be a pass but for someone like me who is poor that would be a salvation for me, no one is ever going to know while I am driving down the road.
I remember many many years ago I wanted a "newer" car and kept searching and searching and searching for the right deal then it poped up a "salvage" title for $16,000
guess what that was dam near every penny I had to my name, I went and looked at it, couldn't find even a blemish so I bought it. drove that thing to the levy....was not a dam thing wrong with it.

How much of a savings would be ok? 5000, maybe 10,000k?
a brand new car without issue is worth 10% less the minute it leaves the dealership lot? I’d want 15k off minimum and a bumper to bumper extended warranty before I’d even look at this vehicle knowing what happened.
eta I’d have an independent body shop look at that vehicle for frame damage too.

 

[iamdub]

I’d have an independent body shop look at that vehicle for frame damage too.

Or just don't go through with marrying Bridezilla after you've already had cold feet and experienced her other side. How many red flags does one need?

It's not a matter if the car can be 100% and perfectly restored or not. It's who's gonna suffer the consequences if it is not. The OP doesn't owe the dealer anything. Buying these things is risky enough without adding a collision repair to the history.

If the dealer did come off $10K-$15K with all warranties, etc., THEN maybe I'd look at it as the Universe smiling upon me. Coming outta the gate with positive equity, I'd flip it ASAP. But, the dealer isn't gonna do that so it's pointless to ponder.