SC vs Full Engine Build

[fozzi58]

Do you have any dyno numbers on your beast?

I wish I did. Its been street tuned. It feels faster than my Trans Am which is an LS1 6 speed with FBO and a tune. I dragged the TA many years ago and went 13.8 at 101 baby-ing the clutch at launch and that was dynoed with 360 at the tire.

Based on that, the Burb has to be putting over 400+ down at the tire. I know its almost double the weight, plus its a brick which is why I am not expecting any miracle numbers out of it but it should run just as fast if not faster than my TA. Or it could be just the sick rush of the SC making it feel that way. The top end of third is when you start to feel the weight and wind resistance starting to take a toll on the madness of the initial acceleration.

 

[Marky Dissod]

Sunoco station near me is selling 94 octane gas at only 10 cents above 93 octane gas. Maybe, squeeze out a few more smiles per gallon?

Tune the low octane table for 93, tune the high octane table for 94 ...

 

[Dirty looks]

That is SO very TRUE!

And, a Sunoco station near me is selling 94 octane gas at only 10 cents above 93 octane gas. Maybe, squeeze out a few more smiles per gallon?

E85 is my favorite. Cheap thrills.

 

[Eighthtry]

So I wish there was a poll option I could find and optimize for this..... but on our turcks if there was an general opinion on which way guys would go which way would it go?

I once had the highest hp Mazdaspeed3 on the planet and made about 100whp more than anybody had ever posted on the platform after i slapped a BT on that thing before anybody else ever had. Ended up getting sponsorship and then transitoning into selling parts. Sold over a million bucks of go fast parts for those things from 2008-2010. Blew freaking two engines....we couldnt tune it properly...then gave up suddenly. Car maybe was on the road 3 months of the almost 3 years I owned it after the turbo. Turning to the boost darkside makes me gunshy after that experience.

Other thing is the extra power made the car virtually undriveable. To some degree too much HP screws a car up. Just became a dyno queen and story but the entire vehicle was kinda wrecked as far as practical use after that thing went on?

My pivot was a freaking honda civic all motor build of all things. Overbored 2.2 sleeved high compression 10000 redline all motor jdmed out sweetest little treat any ricer would have dreamed of. Got rid of that because my tall giraffe looking butt couldnt fit in it and I had started having dreams I was gonna die in the commute home the one day a week i drove it. Another car that power outsourced comfort but I adored the all motor aspect. I cant imagine driving these things with turbos on them in anything other than a straight line.

Parted it out around 2012 and have been done since.

Fast forward 13 years after being out of the game. Kids all grown. No worries about sardine cans or practical budget in the new one...

Im really torn... do I go to the boosted darkside SC on my new toy? So easy and so quick? Or just build an absolutely vicious all motor version?

If money was no real object....or lets just say there was 20ish in the equation..... would the majority of guys go SC or is that the cheap easy way out? If money was no object is the all motor version the more fun way for guys that may have lived this? Is it more rewarding?

A big baller truck.... with a vicious V8.....all motor....mid 500s maybe even more?
Thats what speaks to me.
But the SC. Relentless limit on a a platform like this where everything has been done. Cheaper. Easier. Less challenges?

If you took all the guys that post here over a year and cost was no issue whats the route you figure? What percentage would do the all motor route? Love to hear arguments either way for guys that drive these things everyday

I don't know how old you are, but when I turned 65 I finally figured out that there was no way I would be using more than 420 hp/tq, so I uncomplicated my life and saved money. Wish I had done it 30 years earlier. Still have a 18 Z06 and 74 455 Cutlass to go.

 

[91RS]

Life is far to short to drive slow and boring cars. I make sure to use the power.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

E85 is my favorite. Cheap thrills.

I have never seen E85 anywhere in my area. I have not really looked for it, mind you, but I think that I would have noticed it as an option at the pump, if it existed.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

I don't know how old you are, but when I turned 65 I finally figured out that there was no way I would be using more than 420 hp/tq, so I uncomplicated my life and saved money. Wish I had done it 30 years earlier. Still have a 18 Z06 and 74 455 Cutlass to go.

That's funny. At 66, my retirement age, I finally had the time and money to build horsepower, and I have wholeheartedly embraced the new-found freedom and fun over the past 7 years.

 

[Dirty looks]

I have never seen E85 anywhere in my area. I have not really looked for it, mind you, but I think that I would have noticed it as an option at the pump, if it existed.

It seems to be more of a Midwest thing. The land of corn.
Generally about a buck cheaper per gallon at the expense of a bit of MPG. Higher octane rating.
One draw back on our rigs is that it takes about 15 minutes of run time before the O2 sensor determines the amount of alcohol in the fuel being burned and adjusts the timing accordingly.

 

[Dirty looks]

I have never seen E85 anywhere in my area. I have not really looked for it, mind you, but I think that I would have noticed it as an option at the pump, if it existed.

Current price break.

 

[Dirty looks]

That's funny. At 66, my retirement age, I finally had the time and money to build horsepower, and I have wholeheartedly embraced the new-found freedom and fun over the past 7 years.

Almost 60, after a lifetime of giving my money and time to unappreciative bastards I'm finally free and chasing my dreams. I answer to no one, it's fabulous.