New Guy from San Diego/Park City/Looking to get a 16-18

[Tarek]

Looking to get a 16-18 7 to 8 seater as a 2nd car in our vacation home at Park City. We have a 18 Raptor there for offroading, but those rare times we need to fit guests in addition to our family of 4, I want the extra seats. My younger son will be of driving age by March, that means all 4 of us will be driving. So an extra car would be really nice. Of course handling the snow will be crucial. In my research I want to get the 6.2 V8 with magnetic suspension. That means Denali or Escalade. Since this is a second car that will be used about 12 to 15 times per year. I would like to keep price around $40k, and to get my wife to give her blessing. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I understand the 18 will have 10 speed vs 8 speed trans. I would like to know mileage concerns and what to stay under in my search for reliability concerns. We will only add about 2k miles per year to it. I don't think I want the XL versions since it will be a huge pain to park and very rarely would need that room.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Welcome to the Forum from NH.

Lots of knowledgeable folks here who freely share their knowledge, experiences, and perspectives. Knowledge is power.

I hope that you will become a participating member in the Forum's discussions.

I cannot personally help you with your question regarding the 15-20 year body type; however, other members on this Forum that are much more knowledgeable than me will chime in.

 

[Tarek]

Thanks Joseph, looking forward to some info.

 

[OR VietVet]

Welcome to the forum from Oregon

 

[CaptainAmerica1]

Doh

 

[Bigkevschopshop]

Avoid 16-17 years 6.2 like the plague....

8 speed trans is JUNK!!!!!

2015 early Esky and Denali had 6.2 with 6 speed... tried and true...

2018 is first year or 10 speed behind the 6.2.... great piece

Tahoes and Suburbans also got the 6.2 in the premier trim, sometimes you will find a RST with 6.2 and not premier... But most are premier, the premier package was the LTZ package rebranded.

Mag ride in the 18 and up was corrected for its software issues and harsh ride. The shocks tend to die at 80 k miles... Im at 80k and I can vouch for it... Mine need replacing.

The 40k budget, thats tight for sure for what you want... I may suggest waiting for the bubble to pop the end of the year into early 23, everything I am seeing the used and new markets are about to tank. But if you need it now, shop shop shop wisely. A few dents may be in order to get something with stellar driveline and interior...

Hope your search goes well man... Keep us posted on what you get.

 

[lbenson]

Agree with everything Bigkevschopshop said above... avoid the 8 speed!

My last truck had 175k when it went out (a 2015 w/ 8 speed). But the 10 speed I have now is significantly better. The issue with the 8 speed is you could get lucky and get high miles out of it... other ones you'll see grenade themselves early on. Not a bet I would ever want to make knowing what happened to my last one.

 

[Tarek]

Thanks guys. That is very helpful. But as you said the budget makes it hard to get the 18 and up. I am flexible on budget for up to 5 to 8k, still that makes it tough. I don't want 15 with the 6 speed since it doesn't have apple car play and the CUE system they say is very slow. I have a couple guys in the biz doing searches for me and on the auctions. Hope I get lucky. I would like to get one soon, as we travel there a lot and it would be handy to have that second car there.

 

[Doubeleive]

the XL would provided much needed room in the back and would not be a pain to park your raptor may already be longer anyway or they would be equal length.
these things handle like cars turn radius is excellent and probably turns tighter then the raptor, go test drive you might be surprised.

 

[Tarek]

Will try it. But finding parking for a big suv that is 20inches longer is gonna be tough. And would rather something easier then Raptor.
Keep in mind guys this extra car will get less then 2k miles per year.

 

[lbenson]

the XL would provided much needed room in the back and would not be a pain to park your raptor may already be longer anyway or they would be equal length.
these things handle like cars turn radius is excellent and probably turns tighter then the raptor, go test drive you might be surprised.

Agree here as well, the XL still has a fantastic turning radius compared to any pickup truck.

 

[Tarek]

Sorry to report, but I went ahead and got a 19' Ford Expedition 4WDPlatinum, white on black. Unless I got the 21' or newer the GM products just don't have very good seating for 2nd and 3rd row compared to the Expedition. The 2nd row bench, all 3 sections will slide back and forth and recline. Then the 3rd row, the floor is very low so no knees in your chest. And thus I went for the 2nd row bench to fit 8 people very comfortably. Since I have the raptor, the interior functions are the same and I like them.
Plus the eco boost can be ECU tuned for extreme power, like I did in the Raptor. Gonna probably black out the wheels and chrome bits. And possibly 2inch lift with some bigger tires. Have a shop in Park City that I have been talking too, and they will get that done for me.
I guess this is a bad start to a TahoeYukon forum. I like most everything else better about the GM products, but the seating was not very good and didn't want to spend 21' and newer money.

 

[Doubeleive]

Sorry to report, but I went ahead and got a 19' Ford Expedition 4WDPlatinum, white on black. Unless I got the 21' or newer the GM products just don't have very good seating for 2nd and 3rd row compared to the Expedition. The 2nd row bench, all 3 sections will slide back and forth and recline. Then the 3rd row, the floor is very low so no knees in your chest. And thus I went for the 2nd row bench to fit 8 people very comfortably. Since I have the raptor, the interior functions are the same and I like them.
Plus the eco boost can be ECU tuned for extreme power, like I did in the Raptor. Gonna probably black out the wheels and chrome bits. And possibly 2inch lift with some bigger tires. Have a shop in Park City that I have been talking too, and they will get that done for me.
I guess this is a bad start to a TahoeYukon forum. I like most everything else better about the GM products, but the seating was not very good and didn't want to spend 21' and newer money.

enjoy!

 

[swathdiver]

Sorry to report, but I went ahead and got a 19' Ford Expedition

I thought you didn't want the extra length? Of course the Ferd will be better back there, it's longer. Keep your tools handy, those little turbo motors are not going to like being driven only 2K miles a year.

 

[MrMonte]

My son has a 2015 Yukon Denali with 6 speed & I have a 2018 Yukon Denali with 10 speed. Both are great rides. My 2018 has a more refined ride and gets better mileage. My lifetime avg is 20.6. I turned off AFM 2,000 miles ago so in V8 all the time now I've averaging 22.5 mpg.

 

[Tarek]

I thought you didn't want the extra length? Of course the Ferd will be better back there, it's longer. Keep your tools handy, those little turbo motors are not going to like being driven only 2K miles a year.

Its only 6 inches longer, whereas the XL Yukon is 20 inches longer. So I am still 14 inches shorter then the XL. We will see, I have 2 shops that I have developed relationships with that will not just hold my Expedition at their lot for easy pickup and drop-off when going to SLC airport, but also provide service to it as it needs. I am not a handy man with tools, best pay someone who knows how.

 

[swathdiver]

Its only 6 inches longer, whereas the XL Yukon is 20 inches longer. So I am still 14 inches shorter then the XL. We will see, I have 2 shops that I have developed relationships with that will not just hold my Expedition at their lot for easy pickup and drop-off when going to SLC airport, but also provide service to it as it needs. I am not a handy man with tools, best pay someone who knows how.

Ok, keep us posted on your new ride, maybe even a little review after you've owned it a while.

 

[scrap]

Avoid 16-17 years 6.2 like the plague....

8 speed trans is JUNK!!!!!

2015 early Esky and Denali had 6.2 with 6 speed... tried and true...

2018 is first year or 10 speed behind the 6.2.... great piece

Tahoes and Suburbans also got the 6.2 in the premier trim, sometimes you will find a RST with 6.2 and not premier... But most are premier, the premier package was the LTZ package rebranded.

Mag ride in the 18 and up was corrected for its software issues and harsh ride. The shocks tend to die at 80 k miles... Im at 80k and I can vouch for it... Mine need replacing.

The 40k budget, thats tight for sure for what you want... I may suggest waiting for the bubble to pop the end of the year into early 23, everything I am seeing the used and new markets are about to tank. But if you need it now, shop shop shop wisely. A few dents may be in order to get something with stellar driveline and interior...

Hope your search goes well man... Keep us posted on what you get.

Avoid 16-17 years 6.2 like the plague....

8 speed trans is JUNK!!!!!

2015 early Esky and Denali had 6.2 with 6 speed... tried and true...

2018 is first year or 10 speed behind the 6.2.... great piece

Tahoes and Suburbans also got the 6.2 in the premier trim, sometimes you will find a RST with 6.2 and not premier... But most are premier, the premier package was the LTZ package rebranded.

Mag ride in the 18 and up was corrected for its software issues and harsh ride. The shocks tend to die at 80 k miles... Im at 80k and I can vouch for it... Mine need replacing.

The 40k budget, thats tight for sure for what you want... I may suggest waiting for the bubble to pop the end of the year into early 23, everything I am seeing the used and new markets are about to tank. But if you need it now, shop shop shop wisely. A few dents may be in order to get something with stellar driveline and interior...

Hope your search goes well man... Keep us posted on what you get.

Just spent $5000.00 at the stealership for a factory reman 10 speed for my 2018 premier with 60K miles. Past warranty milage. So much for a great piece.

 

[Bigkevschopshop]

Just spent $5000.00 at the stealership for a factory reman 10 speed for my 2018 premier with 60K miles. Past warranty milage. So much for a great piece.

Id love to know what went wrong with that one that was in there. Thats the first failure of a 10 speed with low miles that I have heard of. Damn man sorry to hear it.

 

[2006Tahoe2WD]

I'm from the 2006 area of the forum and looking at getting a 2016 Tahoe LTZ from a family member. Has the SISI, VVT, AFM and E85 aluminum engine with 6 speed. 60k miles. They have done all the service, not sure if the trans has been serviced.
Is there a BlackBear AFM delete for this engine? Should I do that? Also, how are people cleaning the valves (SIDi)? What other things should I be looking out for?
Thanks.
-Henry