BLKCaddy
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Whats the best engine upgrade to go with, without having to do any major mods or rewiring?
Engine upgrade?
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blueflamed03
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what motor do you have now?
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BLKCaddy
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I have a 5.3, im happy with it but i want more power without going to a super or turbo charger. I like raw power like how they did before all the supers and turbo.
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I was thinking about finding a low mile 5.3 and tuning it and doing some mods but i dont know enough about engines except what i have read or seen. Super chargers are cool but i dont want it to do major damage. idk any thoughts?
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I was thinking about finding a low mile 5.3 and tuning it and doing some mods but i dont know enough about engines except what i have read or seen. Super chargers are cool but i dont want it to do major damage. idk any thoughts?
blueflamed03
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if yours is low mileage, I say add headers, a cam, which is new springs, cam, lifters if you want, and pushrods. Then have it custom tuned...even when you do blow up the 5.3 you have, all that can swap over to the newer low mileage replacement 
Another is what gears do you have, add a torque converter...that will help lowend.
Another is what gears do you have, add a torque converter...that will help lowend.
ezdaar
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I know what you said about turbo and superchager systems.
but for the cost, I would just get a stage 1 turbo kit Trick performance Front mounts. you can get his kit for under 3k.
But if you mind is dead set on engine mods, its simple.
set of heads from Texas Speed a custom ground cam from EPS a set of long tube headers (Cooks, LPP, etc.), simple muffler swap and a BBtune. will get you ALONG way into more power..
you could do the standard issue 243 head and Z6 cam, springs swap. with the extras mentioned above. for fairly cheap.
If you dont care to loose alil bottom end and want alil more up top, also swap in the vette intake mani. Hit www.LS1Tech.com for these stock parts DIRT cheap.
but regaurdless of what you do a new Torque convertor and tune will put more power to ass than any thing.. for Price Vs "FELT" Hp gained.
If it was me.. I would do the turbo kit from trick, buy it set up for a Holset HX40 turbo.
Buy the HX from a diesal website for less than 200$ have it rebuilt for aprox 100$ from Justin over at DSMtuners.com.. (dont quote me on that cost, its been a few years since mine)
Or grown some ***'s and do a 6.0 swap with all of the above.
just remember, Your tranny is the ultimate weak link....
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One often overlooked item that can gain a pretty good amount of power to the ground is a one peice Aluminum driveshaft with fresh ujoints.
where to buy one, well thats the question, most guys getthem custom made...
Check out Gmfullsize and especialy LS1truck, the guys at LS1truck are fanatics when it comes to power mods. not saying the guys here at my Fav place TYF! are not.. Just we tend to be a more "all around" cosmetic, power, MPG" crew...
What ever you do, dont waste money on BS pullys, throtle body spacers or any small shit like that, its a complete waste in the big picture. Go for BIG mods, thats where the $ per HP really shines..
but for the cost, I would just get a stage 1 turbo kit Trick performance Front mounts. you can get his kit for under 3k.
But if you mind is dead set on engine mods, its simple.
set of heads from Texas Speed a custom ground cam from EPS a set of long tube headers (Cooks, LPP, etc.), simple muffler swap and a BBtune. will get you ALONG way into more power..
you could do the standard issue 243 head and Z6 cam, springs swap. with the extras mentioned above. for fairly cheap.
If you dont care to loose alil bottom end and want alil more up top, also swap in the vette intake mani. Hit www.LS1Tech.com for these stock parts DIRT cheap.
but regaurdless of what you do a new Torque convertor and tune will put more power to ass than any thing.. for Price Vs "FELT" Hp gained.
If it was me.. I would do the turbo kit from trick, buy it set up for a Holset HX40 turbo.
Buy the HX from a diesal website for less than 200$ have it rebuilt for aprox 100$ from Justin over at DSMtuners.com.. (dont quote me on that cost, its been a few years since mine)
Or grown some ***'s and do a 6.0 swap with all of the above.
just remember, Your tranny is the ultimate weak link....
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One often overlooked item that can gain a pretty good amount of power to the ground is a one peice Aluminum driveshaft with fresh ujoints.
where to buy one, well thats the question, most guys getthem custom made...
Check out Gmfullsize and especialy LS1truck, the guys at LS1truck are fanatics when it comes to power mods. not saying the guys here at my Fav place TYF! are not.. Just we tend to be a more "all around" cosmetic, power, MPG" crew...
What ever you do, dont waste money on BS pullys, throtle body spacers or any small shit like that, its a complete waste in the big picture. Go for BIG mods, thats where the $ per HP really shines..
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BLKCaddy
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I wanted to start with a low mile engine though, something like 20-30000 miles. At justins i could get a brand new one for not that much last time i checked "3200" maybe!! "Blueflamed03"
I like those ideas more but just didnt know enough. I would go with those but not with the engine i have now. She has 98 or 99000, not sure but id rather start with used or brand new so i could at least see some of the progress and how it all came together.
"ezdaar"
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LOL That was the other thing i wanted to know about with our engines "5.3,5.7,6.0" Whats a good tranny that can handle the mods of that new engine and can keep up and beyond?
I know everything was made to break to of course repair again.. But something thats going to have a long life and if needs to be fixed its something maybe i could do with the help of someone.
I like those ideas more but just didnt know enough. I would go with those but not with the engine i have now. She has 98 or 99000, not sure but id rather start with used or brand new so i could at least see some of the progress and how it all came together.
"ezdaar"
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LOL That was the other thing i wanted to know about with our engines "5.3,5.7,6.0" Whats a good tranny that can handle the mods of that new engine and can keep up and beyond?
I know everything was made to break to of course repair again.. But something thats going to have a long life and if needs to be fixed its something maybe i could do with the help of someone.
blueflamed03
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I see semi low mile 5.3's sell for $800-$1000, the 4L60E will work fine behind that engine, as well as the 6.0
Splatmaster527
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What are the realistic limits on a stock 4L60E as far as HP??
blueflamed03
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basically a mild 5.3 power, I dont think you can come up with a realistic HP number, as there are too many variables.
But you can build a 60e up to handle more power.
But you can build a 60e up to handle more power.
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BLKCaddy
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Im looking for at least 400hp if not more but with that # i could go with the new escalade motor. Thats 403 or something right?
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Is it hard to build a "60e" and do you know how much they run, new or used?
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I see alot of things about a "65e" Anyone know why they say the "60e" doesnt have reliability?
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What about a "700R4" Anyone have a thought on this transmission???
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Is it hard to build a "60e" and do you know how much they run, new or used?
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I see alot of things about a "65e" Anyone know why they say the "60e" doesnt have reliability?
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What about a "700R4" Anyone have a thought on this transmission???
ezdaar
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700R4 is the non computer controlled version of 4l60, so its not any stronger.
If you wanted to go backwards in terms of technology, a turbo 400 is the best choice. They are damn near bullet proof once built. But! theres no way I would do that.. 4L80 built is the way to go.
blueflamed03
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I think most SS trucks came with 65e, the 60e can be made into a 65e. The 65e has a five-pinion planetaries, along with a strength-improved output shaft for added strength.
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Soooo u don't wanna do anything major but u wanna run a new 6.2 with a 700r? U my friend have some reading to do...alot
You should look into a 6L swap, you can pick up a LQ4 or LQ9 cheap and throw a set of heads and cam into it. I would go with a 4L80e if you are going to be over 400rwhp. The 60e can take it but who knows for how long and while you have the engine out you might as well swap the tranny.
I'm shooting for 450rwhp out of my stroked 6L with forged internals and a built 80e. That would be in the neighborhood of 530hp at the fly wheel.
I'm shooting for 450rwhp out of my stroked 6L with forged internals and a built 80e. That would be in the neighborhood of 530hp at the fly wheel.
bkboatnsleds
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That tranny is not a direct bolt up.
chevy_man
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Take it to your local performance shop and get some quotes and talk to the guy. You need to do much more reading before you are able to make these decisions on your own.
I'm not trying to flame or bash, but you obviously are new to this. Talking to someone face to face is much better than over the net.
If you feel up to it, grab a service manual and swap in a cam, and send your computer out for a tune. Depending on the cam, a higher stall tq. converter will make a ton of difference in the feel (doesn't add power, but it moves you into the powerband quicker from a start basically). Between those things you'll get quite the seat of the pants pick-up.
And don't rule out s/c or turbo. A screw style s/c especially feels awesome off the bottom end with gobs of torque. A s/c would be capable of over 500hp at the flywheel easily with supporting mods such as cam, tune, fuel supply. Your transmission will not last long though.
I'm not trying to flame or bash, but you obviously are new to this. Talking to someone face to face is much better than over the net.
If you feel up to it, grab a service manual and swap in a cam, and send your computer out for a tune. Depending on the cam, a higher stall tq. converter will make a ton of difference in the feel (doesn't add power, but it moves you into the powerband quicker from a start basically). Between those things you'll get quite the seat of the pants pick-up.
And don't rule out s/c or turbo. A screw style s/c especially feels awesome off the bottom end with gobs of torque. A s/c would be capable of over 500hp at the flywheel easily with supporting mods such as cam, tune, fuel supply. Your transmission will not last long though.
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My wife and I have decided to keep our 1995 Yukon SLT 4x4. It has been a great truck and has the original drivetrain with no work done to it. We looked at the new Denali and hate the lack of room in the three row configuration (come on GMC, if I wanted a Suburban, I would have bought one). I am going to upgrade the motor and trans with a ZZ383 or comparable. I also want to keep the appearance of stock and pass emissions without any hassles. Can anyone help me decide on a fuel delivery system to accomodate 400-425HP and Torque? We have 205K on the odometer and want to go another 200K.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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dwmmatt23
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Pick up a decent low mileage lq4 or 9 and put it on a stand in the garage, start adding cam, lifters, headers, heads if you want..... and when your 5.3 goes south or your ready you will have a beast ready to drop in. All reputable trans shops can build your 60e to handle the HP
