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Don’t come on an American website and complain about American workmanship. The world knows what a crap hole you live in and the crappy equipment you make.
Calm down, I'll do whatever I want, whenever I want.
P.S. Anyway, switching to insulting nationalities and countries is very unpleasant...I've been on the forum for years, and I like that it's not allowed here. Such phrases as you write don't say anything about you as not a good person.
 
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Man, that's not even close to what he said.

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I understand perfectly well that it was sarcasm. That's exactly what I said, that even if the oil in the USA and Europe is different, then these differences can give well 20% of the difference in resource, well maybe 30%, but not 300%, if Europe had such oil, it would be a miracle.
 

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Terrible things? Not sure what you mean. Just saying the requirements are different and even the oil mfg's don't recommend using European oil in American vehicles and vice versa. There is nothing wrong with oil from the USA, although you could start a heated discussion on who makes the best oil. Please don't though..... LOL!
No, I don't want to have a discussion about the best oil. Oil is generally a matter of religion, one believes in Jesus, another in Buddha, and the third prays to the Sun. So it is with oil, one believes in Mobile, the other in Kostroma. This is the first time I've heard that it's not recommended to use European oil in American cars. European oil has Dexos approval, and it goes into American engines without any problems. In particular, I pour Dexos-approved Belgian oil into Yukon.
 

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No, I don't want to have a discussion about the best oil. Oil is generally a matter of religion, one believes in Jesus, another in Buddha, and the third prays to the Sun. So it is with oil, one believes in Mobile, the other in Kostroma. This is the first time I've heard that it's not recommended to use European oil in American cars. European oil has Dexos approval, and it goes into American engines without any problems. In particular, I pour Dexos-approved Belgian oil into Yukon.
Yup…….. If everyone just changed the oil when it is not clear, ….. any oil is fine…….

Kinda like…. If you like Coke or Pepsi……. Or your favorite Vodka. :D

To me, the quality of the filter is important……
 

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Yup…….. If everyone just changed the oil when it is not clear, ….. any oil is fine…….

Kinda like…. If you like Coke or Pepsi……. Or your favorite Vodka. :D

To me, the quality of the filter is important……
I change the oil every 7,500 miles, and I cut the oil filter each time, examining it for metal shavings and metal particles. And yes, I don't like vodka, and I practically don't drink alcohol. This happens very very rarely, literally once a year, a glass of wine, or a couple of glasses of beer. I love Cola, but I haven't been drinking it lately either, it contains too much sugar....for me, the best drink is very very strong black tea, and regular drinking water)
 

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I change the oil every 7,500 miles, and I cut the oil filter each time, examining it for metal shavings and metal particles. And yes, I don't like vodka, and I practically don't drink alcohol. This happens very very rarely, literally once a year, a glass of wine, or a couple of glasses of beer. I love Cola, but I haven't been drinking it lately either, it contains too much sugar....for me, the best drink is very very strong black tea, and regular drinking water)
I only have a couple glasses of wine a week….. I never liked having a ‘buzz’……. I don’t see the fun in that…..
Back in the day, not having a buzz……. I was the guy to drive the ladies home from a party. :)

(( Do you still worry about metal shavings, after driving lots of miles ??
 

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No, I don't want to have a discussion about the best oil. Oil is generally a matter of religion, one believes in Jesus, another in Buddha, and the third prays to the Sun. So it is with oil, one believes in Mobile, the other in Kostroma. This is the first time I've heard that it's not recommended to use European oil in American cars. European oil has Dexos approval, and it goes into American engines without any problems. In particular, I pour Dexos-approved Belgian oil into Yukon.
From the Chevron site...... I'm not sure it is really that big of a deal though. "Oils designed for American cars are generally incompatible with European engines, and vice versa. This can lead to performance issues, increased wear and tear, reduced fuel efficiency, increased emissions, and even engine or catalytic converter damage. Using a non-OEM specified American oil on a European car may also void the warranty."
 

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From the Chevron site...... I'm not sure it is really that big of a deal though. "Oils designed for American cars are generally incompatible with European engines, and vice versa. This can lead to performance issues, increased wear and tear, reduced fuel efficiency, increased emissions, and even engine or catalytic converter damage. Using a non-OEM specified American oil on a European car may also void the warranty."
Reminds me of the study about “how much water a person should drink per day”…..
The study was financed by Evian Water……. :)
 

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I only have a couple glasses of wine a week….. I never liked having a ‘buzz’……. I don’t see the fun in that…..
Back in the day, not having a buzz……. I was the guy to drive the ladies home from a party. :)

(( Do you still worry about metal shavings, after driving lots of miles ??
You know yes, I worry about chips every time. That being said, my last incident was 1500 miles after changing the oil, and cutting the filter, and there were no chips there. As a result, the engine cannot be restored. But I still believe that it is necessary to cut the filter in order to start repairs in advance. Besides, it doesn't cost me anything. The master in the service does this for free.
 

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From the Chevron site...... I'm not sure it is really that big of a deal though. "Oils designed for American cars are generally incompatible with European engines, and vice versa. This can lead to performance issues, increased wear and tear, reduced fuel efficiency, increased emissions, and even engine or catalytic converter damage. Using a non-OEM specified American oil on a European car may also void the warranty."
But at the same time, gm gives dexos tolerance to European oils. It's funny, isn't it?))
 

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Synthetic is any oil that has a group iv base stock. This is a PAO oil.

However thanks to a lawsuit between Mobil and castrol , group iii oils ( highly refined mineral oil)can be marketed as a synthetic.
 
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Synthetic is any oil that has a group iv base stock. This is a PAO oil.

However thanks to a lawsuit between Mobil and castrol , group iii oils ( highly refined mineral oil)can be marketed as a synthetic.
The problem is there is no clear definition of synthetic. Amsoil claims some group III oils are better than group IV depending on the additives. It's like asking if almond milk is really milk? LOL!
 

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Good Video, shows the tear down with many great notes. The engine bearings in the video would have run for many thousands of more miles if the oil source stayed clean. The scratches and marks show odd wear and show particles of metal are in the oil flow. The sludge in that oil was slowly killing that engine. Need to analyze that oil sludge and find out the source. It will show if it was crankshaft material, block material, oil pump material etc. You need to know where it comes from to eliminate the problem and fix it moving forward. It is possible that material was inside an oil gallery on assembly and flowed into the engine later when it first ran. Should never happen but the material is there, find out where it originated to get answers. GM knows the answers, wish they would share.
 

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I watched the video. I know nothing about engines but I feel I learned something there. Still left with many questions I guess.

And I need to decide whether I trade in for a 3.0 Escalade or 6.2 (2024 model year).

I just don’t seem to hear a lot of noise about the 6.2’s failing in Nova Scotia. Obviously much smaller pool of vehicles but makes me wonder how the low % really is.
 

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