BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

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I got my second letter and called my dealer to learn more about they have seen about the 3 per 100 failure rate now. I did inquire about loaner vehicle “if” my vehicle fails as I’m always hauling around 5-6 kids between sports. They said GM will only cover about $40/day in a rental and it has to be another GM vehicle through enterprise. This pisses me off if I’m going to be out of my car for any more than 1-2 days I’m severely impacted. That’s why I bought a 7 seater.

What’s everyone experience so far with this issue?
When I had an Air Bag issue with my 2021 and waiting on parts, my dealer wouldn't let me drive it and my dealer had a good relationship with the local enterprise and rented me a newer Surburban till it was fixed. Was no charge to me and had it for over a week....
 

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Chevy Dealer told me today that my VIN has not been released. They say that the data being collected now by doing the PICO tests is being studied to zero in on the most probable victims. Maybe I am at low risk? I have always been somewhat comforted by the 3% to 5% number and have hoped that I am in the 95%

Chevy Dealer will not do the PICO test unless I have the second letter and my VIN is released. They also say they will not give me the 0W-40 oil if I come in for service. I still have some time before I go in for a 25k service so I will wait and see for now. GMC Dealer told me that I could get the 0W-40 if I came in for service. We will see.
 

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Chevy Dealer will not do the PICO test unless I have the second letter and my VIN is released. They also say they will not give me the 0W-40 oil if I come in for service. I still have some time before I go in for a 25k service so I will wait and see for now. GMC Dealer told me that I could get the 0W-40 if I came in for service. We will see.

As others have mentioned, I would not get the 0W40 until after they performed the pico test. It could alter the results.

I'm with @vcode on a premature change to 0W40.
 

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23 Tahoe. 6.2. Engine failure on the highway last June at about 27k. Now coming up on 47k. Took 5 weeks for the new engine. Has been trouble free since. Going in for the test/engine replacement/warranty extension tomorrow. Honestly, at this point, all I care about is the extended warranty. It’s the wife’s car. She loves it. Typically she keeps cars 6-8 years and 100-120k miles. Happy to get the extended mileage on the warranty.

Admittedly, my story is 15 months old, but the dealer that we got towed to last year (330 miles from home) knew what the problem was before they had the truck off the rollback. They had heard the story before and seen “a few”.

Was driving 70 on a thankfully rural highway. Shut off, screen went black. Dead. Would have really sucked on I95 in the Northeast corridor, where we live and the wife typically drives with a car full of kids.

Good times.
Replying to myself. Short version. It failed.

Longer version it took them all day yesterday and half a day today to figure it out. No idea what’s happening the timeline will be. In a loaner Chevy equinox. It’s acceptable transportation. But no comparison.

Oh well.
 

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I got my second letter and called my dealer to learn more about they have seen about the 3 per 100 failure rate now. I did inquire about loaner vehicle “if” my vehicle fails as I’m always hauling around 5-6 kids between sports. They said GM will only cover about $40/day in a rental and it has to be another GM vehicle through enterprise. This pisses me off if I’m going to be out of my car for any more than 1-2 days I’m severely impacted. That’s why I bought a 7 seater.

What’s everyone experience so far with this issue?
I've had a Hummer EV loaner (charging at dealer) for over a month now. I saw an article recently on GM Authority that due to the surplus of EVs some dealerships are using for loaners and then selling at $15k-$20k off. So no issue with loaner. It took 3 wks to get a motor. Then another 1.5 wks before they actually started the job. Been working on it for 1wk and should be done today or tomorrow. While it was sitting on their lot waiting for the engine I showed them a scratch on the passenger door that was not there prior, they said they will fix that next. Assume it may be another week before all said and done.
 

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Took mine in today and it passed. Was curious to see if I could tell of any performance reduction with the 0w-40 like one person has posted but it felt th same based off my butt dyno. Will be curious to see if there is any loss in MPGs but not to worried about that. Glad my baby is still purring!
 

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Took mine in today and it passed. Was curious to see if I could tell of any performance reduction with the 0w-40 like one person has posted but it felt th same based off my butt dyno. Will be curious to see if there is any loss in MPGs but not to worried about that. Glad my baby is still purring!
My 2021 Yukon Denali with 6.2L passed a few months ago, and is on 0w-40 now. I'm averaging 19.5mpg with city to city 30mile trips. It's 5miles of city stop and go + 25miles of interstate (70mph) per each trip. Could probably get 20mpg on 100%, 70mph, interstate.
 
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I've had a Hummer EV loaner (charging at dealer) for over a month now. I saw an article recently on GM Authority that due to the surplus of EVs some dealerships are using for loaners and then selling at $15k-$20k off.
If only there had been data about what buyers actually want, that they could've used to determine that the market isn't ready for EV trucks in profitable volumes. Oh wait...
 

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So if I have a 25 with 7000 miles and clearly still under warranty, do I also switch to 0w-40?
I have a 25 high country and just did the first oil change at the dealer at 2000 miles. I asked and they said my engine was after they changed the production process and 0w20 was what they use for the 2025 and I did not need 0w40. I also saw people saying to put in 9 quarts oil and I asked that and they said it only uses 8 quarts. I plan to do my own oil change next and use 0w40. I am not sure about the 9 quarts.
 

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I have a 25 high country and just did the first oil change at the dealer at 2000 miles. I asked and they said my engine was after they changed the production process and 0w20 was what they use for the 2025 and I did not need 0w40. I also saw people saying to put in 9 quarts oil and I asked that and they said it only uses 8 quarts. I plan to do my own oil change next and use 0w40. I am not sure about the 9 quarts.

Just use the dipstick for the fill.
 

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I have a 25 high country and just did the first oil change at the dealer at 2000 miles. I asked and they said my engine was after they changed the production process and 0w20 was what they use for the 2025 and I did not need 0w40. I also saw people saying to put in 9 quarts oil and I asked that and they said it only uses 8 quarts. I plan to do my own oil change next and use 0w40. I am not sure about the 9 quarts.
My owners manual says do not overfill in big type. I've only seen one guy here suggesting the 9 quart thing.
 

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Why 9 quart instead of 8 quart? What is the reasoning? Like @Fless said, fill to the full on the dipstick.

Also, use the 0w-20 and not the 0w-40. I your owner's manual it will likely give you oil weight options depending on where you live and driving conditions. You can fudge on that if you want.

Also, it is your vehicle and you do what you want, BUT, if there is ever a warranty claim and you cannot prove use of the "recommended" oil weight, they can turn down a warranty claim.
 
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Just wanted to give an update. Into second week of waiting for a motor. Have the Hummer EV as long as I need it as a loner. The dealership does not seem to get any shipping updates as far as motors go. I got the results from the 0w40 oil analysis I did immediately before the failed test. This oil included some fairly aggressive towing of 7000 lbs for 15 hrs through hilly terrain on my family's summer vacation. Oil analysis came back perfect. Certainly doesn't look like the oil of a truck that was just condemned.
I just did my first oil analysis at about 24k miles on my engine and 4k miles on my first batch of 0W-40 oil. All looked good, and pretty consistent numbers with yours. Still no issues with the engine, and still no second letter from GM.
 

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Finally got the call this morning to set up my ‘24 Yukon for the test. Still no 2nd letter from GM but living in northern MN our mail service seems to always run slow so not surprised. Unfortunately my wife has the Yukon in Michigan visiting her family for the next couple weeks so have an appointment on the 22nd.
 

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After having inexplicably disappeared from the app for me for a bit, the recall showed up for me again, and now there is a message that says “There is a Product Safety Recall for your 2023 Tahoe. Please schedule a service appointment to resolve the issue.”

I’m going to have to think now about when I want to take it in, and potentially (but unlikely) be without it for awhile if it fails the test.
 

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After having inexplicably disappeared from the app for me for a bit, the recall showed up for me again, and now there is a message that says “There is a Product Safety Recall for your 2023 Tahoe. Please schedule a service appointment to resolve the issue.”

I’m going to have to think now about when I want to take it in, and potentially (but unlikely) be without it for awhile if it fails the test.
Yep. I should be getting mine back today or tomorrow. Took about 6 wks or so for replacement.
 

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Yep. I should be getting mine back today or tomorrow. Took about 6 wks or so for replacement.
I guess 6 weeks isn’t terrible, in the grand scheme of things, right? I decided to go ahead and make an appt for mine next Monday. If it fails, although I doubt it will, I’d rather get this process going and hopefully have it back before we may hit the road around Thanksgiving. By the way, when I talked with my dealership today to schedule the appointment, they noted they have yet to have a single failed test and engine replacement. So, take that for what you will.
 

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I have no skin in this as I have a 3.0 diesel but am wondering...6 weeks replacement, do they supply a loaner?

Padraig
 

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I have no skin in this as I have a 3.0 diesel but am wondering...6 weeks replacement, do they supply a loaner?

Padraig
Yes, I confirmed that when I called to schedule my inspection appointment. I'm sure it's not exactly an equivalent vehicle in most cases. Although I think the guy who posted recently said his dealership had him in a Hummer EV, so that's pretty nice. And then somebody else got an Equinox.
 

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