2 strokeoil in your gas tank

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big ken

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I have herd A little about this, just wondering who has done it and what were the benifits. Also did it damage any parts in the course of operation?

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http://www.ls1.com/forums/f48/been-testing-91206/
Been testing

you guys know I test constantly and oil/tribology is my thing so here goes. I know the gasoline today is shit. Very dry and poor quality. Throw in ethanol and you got crap/corrosive gasoline. I use Fuel Power/Lucas UCL with great success in my cars and other peoples cars. At the first of the year some of us "lubrication physcho's" (mainly from the aircraft industry) discussed the shit quality of gasoline and the absolute advantages of running a fuel additive with lubrication capabilities and I think the testing is now complete and the results are very good. Biggest problem we had was the proper amount but we are now satisfied this works very well and you will have a smoother running engine/more power/better MPG....so here it is.....
What we are trying to accomplish ( The deliverables)
We need to lubricate the fuel pump/seals/injectors.
We need to clean the fuel system and scavenge water that ethanol attracts.
We need a film of protection in our fuel system to stop corrosion.
We need a cleaner for our spark plugs/valves/combustion chambers.
We need to clean the ring packs
We need to leave a film on the cylinder walls to eliminate cold start metal wear.
This was my groups short list of deliverables. Of course we knew if we accomplished this list the car should A) Run Smoother B) Run more efficiently C) Parts will last longer i.e. fuel pumps/injectors etc. D) We should see more RWHP and MPG
We did it. For pennies.
2 Stroke oil. Not just any two stroke oil But we needed the detergents etc. and found the perfect oil/add packs/viscosity in a marine 2 stroke oil you can get for under $10 bucks a gallon anywhere. We used Pennzoil Marine 2 stroke for our testing. Here is the "blurb" from Pennzoil.....
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Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic
Ultimate Protection

Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil is designed for your hard-working, large displacement, high-horsepower 2-cycle engine. High temperature protection is necessary for higher horsepower engines. High temperatures in an engine can cause loss of lubrication, carbon deposits, piston-scuffing, and pre-ignition. The combination of synthetic ester base oils and a premium, ashless performance package in Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil provides protection for high horsepower applications that require approved NMMA TC-W3® oil.
Benefits:
Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil is recommended for use in those makes and models of water-cooled, 2-cycle engines with direct injection systems, oil injection systems or those requiring use of a pre-mix. It is recommended for and meets the warranty requirements of Johnson/Evinrude, Mercury Marine, Yamaha, Suzuki, Force/US Marine, Mariner and others requiring NMMA TC-W3® oils.

Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil:

Performs in extreme conditions.
Provides excellent lubricity to protect against piston- and cylinder-scuffing.
Helps protect against ring sticking, exhaust port deposits, and spark plug fouling.
Biodegradable and low aquatic toxicity.
Recommended for direct injection engines.


Whether running full throttle to open water for that fishing tournament, cruising your favorite waterway, pulling a skier or racing you need an oil to protect your high-horsepower engine. Pennzoil Marine® Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil is that oil.
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Use 1oz of the two stroke oil per 5 gallons of gas ( 1oz-5gallons/ 2ozs - 10 gallons etc. and that is the perfect ratio. Too much and it will make your engine run worse....too little and it wont do anything.....use the proper amount.....get a little bottle and keep it in your car.....We have seen a maximum of 5% better MPG down to a minimum of 2% better MPG. All of our test mules reported much smoother idles and cruising. No smoking or ill effects. No residue on plugs our pistons....actually the opposite....we saw "cleaning".....I am now comfortable recommending this for all. I also now run this mixture in my GTO/Mercedes/Silverado and G6 with all having smoother running motors and all gaining MPG. Give it a try and let me know your experience. Follow the mixture ratio to the letter. 1 oz per 5 gallons of gas.
 

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After I read some more about it, I might have to try this. Very interesting.
 
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This actually works as I have done it to my tahoe. Just use the 1oz per every 5 gallons of gas. It will take a tank or two for you to notice the results but you will.
 

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I have been using it for over a year, 1oz for every 5 gallons. Have driven about 20k miles on it, smooth idle and did notice the gas mileage after the first few treatments.

I read the whole 46 page post on the LS1 forum before doing it, and found no negatives as long as the ratio was kept to. Been true so far.
 

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I Just started doing it on my last tank and noticed a difference right away. My gas mileage according to the Information center went from 11.8 to 12.3 and the truck does seem to idle smoother and have a little more pick up. At one point I thought it got my gas gauge working again (sending unit sticks at times) but I was wrong. I plan to try it on family members vehicles.
 

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I actually just did this. I had a few gallons of mixed fuel I needed to get rid of and dumped it in the burban tank.
 

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does this trick have to use the penzoil marine synthetic? or can i get some 2 stroke oil at advance and try it?
 

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Just started this about 2 weeks ago. I can't get an accurate reading with the gas miles because I started when I took my 22's off for the winter. As far as the idle there's improvement for sure. I'm gona keep doing it unitl I find a reason not too.

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does this trick have to use the penzoil marine synthetic? or can i get some 2 stroke oil at advance and try it?

From what I understand from the ls1 forum is that you need the add packs contained in any tcw3 2 stroke oil. I use walmart brand.
 

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does this trick have to use the penzoil marine synthetic? or can i get some 2 stroke oil at advance and try it?

No, does not need to be Penzoil. Just make sure it has a TC-W3 rating/certification.
 

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That is correct! All I could find locally was Penzoil so thats what i've been using. On my second tank now.
 

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I have been using 2 cycle oil in my 03 yukon for a while now and I have noticed that my piston slap at start up has gone away along with a small increase in fuel mileage. I give it two thumbs up. Mitch.
 

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I have herd A little about this, just wondering who has done it and what were the benifits. Also did it damage any parts in the course of operation?

thanks
I'm going to give this a try
 

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