1989 C4 Functional Restoration

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Thanks, I have poured a lot of blood and sweat into this car and not much money, which was the goal.

I always liked them, well, almost always, I wasn't a fan when the 84 came out. In almost every way the C5 is a better car but it lacks the raw feel the C4 has and I prefer to sit in a C4, it just fits around your body and holds you in. I had been wanting to restore one for a long time, this one was the perfect candidate for that. In stock form it was an absolute beast on the track, dominating every showroom stock class car in the world in the mid to late 80's. It set the standard for what Corvettes would be in the future. It was the first Vette that the emphasis was on handling and not straight line acceleration and the nailed it.

Dick is an absolute legend!
He is... ..also as a race driver !! When he moved his original shop ( Jefferson Blvd. / "Guldstrand Sport Suspension" ) , to Burbank, ( closer to his home / ( Guldstrand Motorsports" ).... He called me to assist on the move, then I worked for him for about 6 months !
He has great stories !!
( Dick gave me one of his personal sweaters )
( PM me your mailing address..... I'll send you an original decal....)
 

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Not a lot has happened to the car in the past few weeks, life is keeping me busy elsewhere.

I did manage a little more work on the stereo, I picked up a pair of Polk DB522 5.25 marine co-ax drivers for the rear. I built a box for them as a test and while they sound fantastic in the way too large box, it was was a compromise between sound fidelity and space. In the end it was a failure, the sound is great for a 5.25" speaker but the space it took up was too large. The large(ish) enclosure allowed the mid bass to come through which it always tough for 5.25 drivers. I am going to cut it all way down on the next attempt, I have a design in mind that will give me back the space I lost but at the expense of most of the mid bass, it is a compromise I think I can live with that as the vocal region is what is mostly lacking at top down speed from just the front stage, the rear fills it in nicely and takes some pressure off the fronts.

Being built...carpeted with the original carpet on the massive box that was in it. I pretty much slapped this together and it shows.

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Installed...in reality it did not cost more floor space than the canted old Rockford amp took up but the goal was to increase space, not keep it the same.

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Here is an interesting look at how the Sun plays with the appearance of the car. Light and shadows greatly affect how the paint looks. In photos it always looks like the bottom half is darker than the top half or vice versa but when your eye looks at it the difference is not so stark. The lighter bumpers and hood also changes depending on the direction of the light. I am not ready to paint the hood and bumpers yet but I see the absolute need in doing it.

Taken around noon...the Sun is mostly on the drivers side.

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Taken in the afternoon...the Sun is shining from the front of the car.

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Taken in the evening...the Sun is mostly on the front passenger side.

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I am going to end up replacing the head unit, while sitting it is somewhat easy to maneuver around in but while driving it is really tough to select anything on the screen and navigating the music folders is down right dangerous as you cannot really see the writing on the folders. I did not want to squeeze a double din in there but I see the importance of the extra half an inch.
 

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Not a lot has happened to the car in the past few weeks, life is keeping me busy elsewhere.

I did manage a little more work on the stereo, I picked up a pair of Polk DB522 5.25 marine co-ax drivers for the rear. I built a box for them as a test and while they sound fantastic in the way too large box, it was was a compromise between sound fidelity and space. In the end it was a failure, the sound is great for a 5.25" speaker but the space it took up was too large. The large(ish) enclosure allowed the mid bass to come through which it always tough for 5.25 drivers. I am going to cut it all way down on the next attempt, I have a design in mind that will give me back the space I lost but at the expense of most of the mid bass, it is a compromise I think I can live with that as the vocal region is what is mostly lacking at top down speed from just the front stage, the rear fills it in nicely and takes some pressure off the fronts.

Being built...carpeted with the original carpet on the massive box that was in it. I pretty much slapped this together and it shows.

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Installed...in reality it did not cost more floor space than the canted old Rockford amp took up but the goal was to increase space, not keep it the same.

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Here is an interesting look at how the Sun plays with the appearance of the car. Light and shadows greatly affect how the paint looks. In photos it always looks like the bottom half is darker than the top half or vice versa but when your eye looks at it the difference is not so stark. The lighter bumpers and hood also changes depending on the direction of the light. I am not ready to paint the hood and bumpers yet but I see the absolute need in doing it.

Taken around noon...the Sun is mostly on the drivers side.

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Taken in the afternoon...the Sun is shining from the front of the car.

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Taken in the evening...the Sun is mostly on the front passenger side.

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I am going to end up replacing the head unit, while sitting it is somewhat easy to maneuver around in but while driving it is really tough to select anything on the screen and navigating the music folders is down right dangerous as you cannot really see the writing on the folders. I did not want to squeeze a double din in there but I see the importance of the extra half an inch.
I got busy.... almost forgot..... Did you receive the Guldstrand decal?
 
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We only go when we remember, just about everything is electronically delivered to us and our post office is in the opposite direction of where we shop. I will make sure the Boss stops by on her next feed run.
 

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When I worked for Dick Guldstrand, he still had his 'Vette, that broke the word 'closed course' speed record, run at Talladega.
It had a Trico engine.
( Opps.. spelling..... 'Traco' engine )
 

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Not much has happened with the car the past few weeks other than getting it dirty from back country roads. It is the time of year that other things have to be tended to before the heat of Summer is here to stay. I did take care of a few things that needed attention, or at least things I wanted to attend to.
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This will hopefully be the last iteration of the rear speaker box for a long time, while I have enjoyed the challenge of designing something that functions and doesn't take up a lot space, I believe this design will do what I want.

I rebuilt the rear speaker box, it sounded great but was still taking up more room than I wanted. I rebuilt the existing enclosure to have just two small cubes mounted to a back board with the amp upright between the cubes. I needed a way to get the 4 gauge wire to the amp and still allow the back board to fit as close to the rear wall as possible while not putting any sharp bends in the wire as this can cause the wire to come loose and a direct short is not a pretty thing to see. I mounted the cubes on 5/8" stand offs so I could pass the wires behind the cubes, giving a straight shot to the amp. I need to do the same routing on the input side but haven't had the time to do so yet. You may notice the EQ gone, no more blinding blue LED's. Before the design change I had 16" from the waterfall to the box for luggage, now I have 22" in the center section which is a huge improvement. Mid-bass did drop slightly but it is hardly noticeable.

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I went ahead and replaced the head unit, the cheap Android unit worked beautifully, it was fast, smooth and the graphics were good. The problem as discussed above is it was downright dangerous to operate while driving, the screen is too small to glance at and trying to change the volume meant you could easily also change the song as the screen layout isn't ideal. While parked it was an awesome unit, but while in motion it isn't. I had replaced the head unit in the Yukon as the old Kenwood was starting to have issues. I used one of those floating screen units because the wife liked it, and honestly, it is a great improvement, so far. I hope it is durable and gives at least a few years use. I really didn't want a double din in the C4, I know it can be done. What I really wanted was a flip out 7" screen unit but I could not find anything but the cheapo units or older name brand used units, but then I would be using another old unit that could fail at any time. On my old F350 I bought a cheap Dual flip out unit from WalMart and used it for 5 years or so before I sold the truck, it worked fine. I decided to try another one, but an updated version. As a company, Dual makes cheap crap, or at least that has been their reputation for decades. The floating screen unit in the Yukon is a Dual and it impressed me, at least initially. With most lower tier units you either get one that works as intended or you get one you have to replace quickly because it failed. If it makes it 6 months it will probably last years. I took the gamble.

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It does give me some advantages, I don't have to cut up the bezel to fit a double din and the screen is larger, it has six 3 volt pre-outs so I can ditch the EQ and have full control from the drivers seat, it has two USB slots, one on the detachable face and a Micro SD slot behind the face and it is really easy to pull out if I have to replace it. I have a CD/DVD player and you can operate the unit with the screen retracted.


On to another issue that cropped up. The bezel that I replaced for the top/door junction broke, more specifically, the pins that hold it on broke. I have no idea how I did that but I did, the pins are hollow and not very strong at the junction where they attach to the bezel. I suspect part of the problem was the bezel also attaches to the door trim by a screw that helps keep it in place but the drivers side piece of that trim was broken off. I need to repair that first.

The problem, a missing piece of plastic. I cut a piece of ABS to fill in the missing piece that the screw goes through.

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Glassed into place with two layers...

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The finished product... (This piece is mostly covered by the bezel so no need to change the color.)

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Now to work on the broken pins since I am not buying another one of these fragile covers.

The vulnerable area is where the pins come out of the bezel, too weak, so I cut some copper wire that fit into the hole in the middle of the pins, heated them up and buried them into the bezel to give better strength and glued them down to hold them for epoxy application. The force on these pins is in shear, the coper while soft will give strength in a shear application rust, certainly more than just the brittle plastic and it won't rust. I cut up some chop mat glass into about 1/8" pieces and mixed it into some 5 minute G-Flex epoxy and used it to reinforce the joint. I did this many years ago on the pins that broke on the bezel of the Yukon and they have held beautifully. I cut some slices into the pins to give the epoxy/glass something to firmly attach to. (Note, this method doesn't work well if the pin fits flush to the piece it fits into. Fortunately there is enough room on this bezel from the rubber gasket to allow the increase in thickness to not be an issue.)

I didn't get as much on the base as I wanted but with the missing screw in place it should be enough.

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Time to put it all back together... (I hate those push nuts that go on from underneath.)

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The seat back and seat belt cover this area so no one would ever know it had been repaired.

The A/C in the shop is holding it's own but I need to finish insulating the roof which will help greatly.
 

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