Vortec heads with TBI

[AtomicHoe094]

Just picked up a GMPP TBI intake manifold to work with the 96+vortec heads. On top of that i picked up a 700cfm Holley throttle body with 70lb injectors with a pod spacer, 18lb spring, TB spacer and more. With addition of the ****** longtubes and electric fans and CAI, im hoping to really perk up this TBI. All emission friendly for dumb ohio.

now just a couple more things to grab and she should be a pretty torqueyy mother F'er. I'm thinking cam along with the new heads, double roller chain and a programmable computer then i wouldn't need to get chips burned all the time.

This with along with everything else will be done in the winter time when i have some time... IE, in the process of reupholstering my seats, headliner and door panels, i have a 5/7 drop i have to put on, SSBC rear disc kit, MSD ignition shit, and a couple other odds and ends stuff. should be a slammed fast hoe here shortly, i just wish i still had my Whipple

 

[blueflamed03]

sweet, any idea on cam you wanna use?

 

[AtomicHoe094]

Not sure, actually im reading on some as i type. Im not camsmart, so any help you have well deff be appreciated. Found some good information with these 2 cams on a TBI motor
Edelbrock 2102 or Comp 12-249-4
Ill have to change the rocker arms for sure when going with a milder cam.

 

[chistoso]

Curious to see what you come out with Adam. Sounds like it's gonna be good..

 

[AtomicHoe094]

Thanks!, I hope so man. I have some stuff i need to paint on the truck this winter, debating about making it a tu-tone. whatcha think about that? black from the bottom of the windows up. and keeping the bottom orange. its still in the air, but if i get some time this winter i might do it.

I have a lot going on right now, i just opened up my own shop. about 5thous square feet (commercial building) where ill be upholstering for a living. boats, cars, trucks, whatever you have it will be done. then for side jobs ill paint, body work, mechanical and shit.

 

[chistoso]

I don't know. I like the look you're sporting now , maybe it's just me but adding more black would look off. Maybe do a photo shop shot of it to try and get a visual. I wanna see pics of the interior when you get it upholstered..

 

[AtomicHoe094]

sewing it up!

rear seat

black suede visors that i made.


Rear seat

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edit: im not good at PS! lol if someone can help me out.. and i also changed the name of the thread. maybe i can get it moved to the general OBS section instead of the performance section, that would be good..

 

[blueflamed03]

be interesting on what final compression will be, with 64cc Vortec head on there. I'd use a Comp, but wouldn't ever use an Edelbrock cam. But that's me.

 

[retorq]

I had a similar setup planned out, I was going a lil more aggressive on the intake, was gonna do a Edlebrock RPM non air gap with a carb/TBI adapter and something like an LT4 cam with bee hive springs and Vortec heads. Should be fun if it can be tuned.

 

[DBLTAP]

here's the guy that can tune it: http://www.tbichips.com/default.htm
I just sent Brian my computer today.
Smoke'n deal on the cam: http://www.willhoitescams.com/
Cant beat the price on the LT4 but I went with his 270 W/112 LS
Check out Alex's store for incredible price on the BeeHive Springs, locks, and retainers. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310243382690&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

 

[AtomicHoe094]

be interesting on what final compression will be, with 64cc Vortec head on there. I'd use a Comp, but wouldn't ever use an Edelbrock cam. But that's me.

Hmm yea i never used any edelbrock either, but it worked good with the tbi?? i probably wont go with it, but thanks!

I had a similar setup planned out, I was going a lil more aggressive on the intake, was gonna do a Edlebrock RPM non air gap with a carb/TBI adapter and something like an LT4 cam with bee hive springs and Vortec heads. Should be fun if it can be tuned.

lt4? fill me in on that!

here's the guy that can tune it: http://www.tbichips.com/default.htm
I just sent Brian my computer today.
Smoke'n deal on the cam: http://www.willhoitescams.com/
Cant beat the price on the LT4 but I went with his 270 W/112 LS
Check out Alex's store for incredible price on the BeeHive Springs, locks, and retainers. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310243382690&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Im not going with chips anymore, ill be using EBL (http://www.dynamicefi.com/), you use this and hook it up to a computer and tune it your self.. Tuning it yourself means more accuracy then for brian to do it..
thanks for the website on the cam. whats your plans for your tbi?

 

[DBLTAP]

Ran out of $$$ LOL. After buying the long block I couldn't leave well enough alone, just couldn't bring myself to drop it in bone stock. Cam, headers, exhaust, twin e fans, CNC aluminum distributor, Vic Morse Throttle body, and all new accessories on to hang on the front of the motor adds up to a stock intake for awhile. Still looking at the Marine and RamJet intake swap for down the road. Interesting link on the EBL, I am still wrapping my head around the TBI/tuning stuff.

 

[AtomicHoe094]

haha, thats alright tho. And yea tuning these TBIs is kinda far off my head. its something ill have to read up on every day and go from there. not something i specialize in that's for sure

 

[retorq]

here's the guy that can tune it: http://www.tbichips.com/default.htm
I just sent Brian my computer today.
Smoke'n deal on the cam: http://www.willhoitescams.com/
Cant beat the price on the LT4 but I went with his 270 W/112 LS
Check out Alex's store for incredible price on the BeeHive Springs, locks, and retainers. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310243382690&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

That is a good price on them cams.

He doesn't say which springs those are, they could be the one year LS6 springs that are good to .525 lift ...

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lt4? fill me in on that!




Im not going with chips anymore, ill be using EBL (http://www.dynamicefi.com/), you use this and hook it up to a computer and tune it your self.. Tuning it yourself means more accuracy then for brian to do it..
thanks for the website on the cam. whats your plans for your tbi?

Google LT4 hot cam, it was a common swap for the LT1 guys back in the days when those were the hot engine. 218/228 .525 lift ROLLER cam. There are a few videos on youtube with idle sounds and what not, they are in FBodies but I'm betting it would sound similar in a properly tuned and setup truck.

I looked into that EBL setup too, pretty sweet. But the way I understand it, you will use some chip, whether it be a moded chip from Brian or your stock chip. The advantage I see with a chip from Brian is your base tune is gonna be all set (or pretty dang close), you just do the fine tuning. If you start with a base chip you have to do the base and the fine.

 

[95TwinTT]

haha, thats alright tho. And yea tuning these TBIs is kinda far off my head. its something ill have to read up on every day and go from there. not something i specialize in that's for sure

If you are going to start learning how to tune, it might be worthwhile to check out the electromotive tec3. They are showing up on ebay often. Just to get an idea, download their manual for the Tec3 and check it out.

The Tec3 is used on Nelson Racing engines. They are simple to program. You can do real time tuning on the fly as well. The day will come when you want to go up to eight injectors from the two. It is a simple selection on the "Wizard" to change the software.

Check the capabilities of the setup you are looking at compared to the Tec3. Just a idea. Doesn't cost anything to check it out.

Nice work on the upholstery by the way...........

Here is a link to the manuals................

http://www.electromotive-inc.com/manuals.html

 

[AtomicHoe094]

thanks Twin, i was hoping you would give me some cam advice or something! lol You always give me the far and way to expensive stuff to look at haha like the TCI TCU tranny computer or whatever with the paddle shifters and shit. I admire your work man!

thanks for the link ill have to check it out. Do you use a laptop then in your car?

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heres that expensive bugger
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Elec...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item335ed2a99d
1200 dolla! haha


Yo twin, you should learn (or you probably already know how to) make me some chips or help me out on this! i cant do it alone

 

[95TwinTT]

I've seen Tec3's go for half that. Just have to be patient. That one will probably come down a notch or two. It does have the uncut wiring harness that is worth something too.

I have a couple of older laptops I use for the Z and the Tahoe. The IBM thinkpad sits vertically in the space between the passenger seat and the console. I can whip it out and screw around anytimg. I buried a switch for the serial line in the dash so I can switch between the Tec3 and the TCU.

I know they are kind of pricey, but with your talent you should be in the big bucks soon. Give it a chance.

On the cams, I always have a friend of mine make a call to Custom cams. He relays what I want it to do and they make it up for me. I like lots of torque and power up front. There are a lot of cams that don't make their power until they are wound up tight. lol

I'm not trying to stir up trouble, just thought if your working on a winter project, you might just want to see what the options are.

 

[AtomicHoe094]

thanks Twin, well ill keep an eye out, but let me know if you see anything. thanks!

 

[black95]

are you interested in selling your stock throttle body and injectors??

 

[AtomicHoe094]

possibly later on, i want to first make sure this setup will work and such. it wont be till a long while tho