No Refresh for 2024

[DuraYuk]

Looks like the big SUVs wont get a refresh yet. I figured since GM hasnt really done mid cycle refreshes on the full size suvs before and there has been no reveal yet. Usually by this point orders are open for next model year.

Im sure there will be some option changes and more standard equipment.

Glad I didn't wait.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08/2024-chevy-tahoe-suburban-not-getting-mid-cycle-refresh/

 

[Banks22]

Orders for 2024 start September 7.

 

[NOVA99]

Sure, that is great and of course there will be a MY24. What OP is saying is that all the hype of the new refresh of the MY24 is a no go, not happening. I knew it, way too late and GM is ****** up worse than any auto supplier so we will see NEW / REFRESHED large SUVs in MY25 or beyond.

 

[morig]

That’s a bummer. I’m glad we didn’t hold out for a ‘24 but still disappointed we won’t get to see what’s under all the spy photos.

 

[dancastro]

Any news on the Yukon?

 

[Stbentoak]

All I care about is what is the last year they will offer the LZ0 Duramax, because that's the next/last one I'm buying.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

I bet they “refresh” the pricing! And not in a good way.

 

[Polo08816]

Looks like the big SUVs wont get a refresh yet. I figured since GM hasnt really done mid cycle refreshes on the full size suvs before and there has been no reveal yet. Usually by this point orders are open for next model year.

Im sure there will be some option changes and more standard equipment.

Glad I didn't wait.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08/2024-chevy-tahoe-suburban-not-getting-mid-cycle-refresh/

I bet they “refresh” the pricing! And not in a good way.

I think the decision to potentially push off the refresh to MY25 may be a mistake. The Ford Expedition is due for a refresh in 2025 as well.

In my opinion, there is an advantage in getting a refresh a model year or two before your competitor. I think the way the automotive market is heading, most manufacturers are trending to go back to a volume/incentive based sales model as production catches up to (or even exceeds) demand in more and more segments. By mid 2025, I think GM is going to be in the same boat as the rest.

 

[DuraYuk]

I think the decision to potentially push off the refresh to MY25 may be a mistake. The Ford Expedition is due for a refresh in 2025 as well.

In my opinion, there is an advantage in getting a refresh a model year or two before your competitor. I think the way the automotive market is heading, most manufacturers are trending to go back to a volume/incentive based sales model as production catches up to (or even exceeds) demand in more and more segments. By mid 2025, I think GM is going to be in the same boat as the rest.

Refresh happens as demand drops. The full size SUV up until this point have been selling really well. No real incentive to refresh until it slows down.

 

[BG1988]

Refresh happens as demand drops. The full size SUV up until this point have been selling really well. No real incentive to refresh until it slows down.

incorrect they're hiding inventory to keep prices high.. a lot of people around the US have been spotting new car lots storage areas to artificially keeping prices high.. it would be a huge financial mistake to buy one now...

 

[DuraYuk]

incorrect they're hiding inventory to keep prices high.. a lot of people around the US have been spotting new car lots storage areas to artificially keeping prices high.. it would be a huge financial mistake to buy one now...

Yeah that's not true. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some brands have tons of inventory and discounts (FCA 10% off msrp ), others don't have much inventory ( GM full size suv, toyota hybrids, etc). Carry on.

 

[Polo08816]

Refresh happens as demand drops. The full size SUV up until this point have been selling really well. No real incentive to refresh until it slows down.

I don't disagree. But demand for a particular make/model can drop because demand for a competitor's model has increased as well.

It also takes some decent lead time to execute a refresh - potentially 1-2 years even if you're not refreshing the powertrain. I don't necessarily think the cycle is, "Oh, demand for our product is dropping. Let's do a refresh that will hit the market in 2 years." Refreshes (mid cycle enhancements, etc.) should be part of a normal cycle.

incorrect they're hiding inventory to keep prices high.. a lot of people around the US have been spotting new car lots storage areas to artificially keeping prices high.. it would be a huge financial mistake to buy one now...

Yeah that's not true. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some brands have tons of inventory and discounts (FCA 10% off msrp ), others don't have much inventory ( GM full size suv, toyota hybrids, etc). Carry on.

I don't think they're intentionally hiding inventory. It's not like these are marquee or exotic vehicles. They are mass produced interchangeable vehicles. To purposely hide inventory for the sake of keeping prices high just gives your competitors an opportunity to get a better foothold in the segment.

 

[MajorFatal]

Orders for 2024 start September 7.

My dealer said they got a 24 allocation this week, they filed the order form and my Yukon should be here mid November (assumes no strike!) Maybe GM does not formally accept them until then?

 

[Banks22]

My dealer said they got a 24 allocation this week, they filed the order form and my Yukon should be here mid November (assumes no strike!) Maybe GM does not formally accept them until then?

They start building the 2024 November 6. So probably December would be the earliest you’d see it.

 

[DuraYuk]

Yukon won't either

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08/2024-gmc-yukon-wont-be-getting-a-mid-cycle-refresh/

 

[Steebu]

Yeah, this unfortunately confirms a thread on Facebook last week where some guys who worked at the Arlington plant mentioned this wasn’t going to happen. I didn’t want to post the rumor, but I guess this more or less confirms it.

 

[MajorFatal]

They start building the 2024 November 6. So probably December would be the earliest you’d see it. If there is no refresh do they have/shorten that seasonal shutdown to retool? Wonder if the decision is too get i

They start building the 2024 November 6. So probably December would be the earliest you’d see it.

Since there is no refresh this year do they even have/shorten the seasonal shutdown/retool? Wonder if the decision is related to the possible strike and wanting to move as much metal as possible as a hedge. Do they produce 23 MY until late October? Or can they just state this car forward (say 9/1) is a MY24 since they are not changing anything?

 

[Banks22]

@MajorFatal that start of production date could possibly move up for 2024…? everything I was going off of was from GM authority which they were wrong about a refresh until the other day so….let’s see

 

[CMoore711]

We’ve all seen the GMC and Chevrolet full size SUV spy shots with camo on the front and rear end hiding some sort of “refresh” facelift change to the model. It’s not a matter of if there will be a model refresh update but when.

To be honest; If GM has decided to push it out another model year I’m ok with it. Why rush it?

With all the threads in the 2021+ section of the various issues the OTA updates have caused, some models prematurely killing batteries, injector issues, and other miscellaneous issues. GM pushing out the refresh one more model year might just be a sign of them wanting to take some extra time and fix/correct some of the current model bugs?

 

[Banks22]

My dealer said they got a 24 allocation this week, they filed the order form and my Yukon should be here mid November (assumes no strike!) Maybe GM does not formally accept them until then?

Just so u know, I logged in to auto book which is the ordering site for dealerships and u can’t even build a 2024 yet. Still 2023.