General Motors announces they are DROPPING Apple CarPlay:

[ZKWBQD]

General Motors announces they are DROPPING Apple CarPlay:

Dear GM, We love our iPhones more than our Buicks. We will not change brands of phone, only our brand of cars.
Thank you,
America

Here's why GM is dropping Apple CarPlay

More details emerge on why GM is driving away from Apple CarPlay.

finance.yahoo.com

 

[B-train]

That's fine by me. I have an apple phone for work and I wish I could run it over daily. My wife and daughters would disagree and think their phones are "just the best ever!" LOL

I like the options available on android and not a locked down device. But, I will say the IPad for work has been fantastic and works well.

 

[Jellyfrosh]

Toyota tried that and it failed miserably. Rent seeking almost always backfires on these companies and this is an incredibly obvious example.

 

[mb1500]

Make everything electric and subscription based, here comes chapter 11…

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Not new news, but it’s currently only being dropped in EV’s. I do think it’s a bit of a bad move for safety; as that is the key benefit of car play…minimizing the txt while driving

 

[steiny93]

GMC isn't just getting rid of Apple Car Play, it's also getting rid of Android Auto as well

From the article above "The auto giant said in late March it would phase out Apple CarPlay and Android Auto"

 

[Eusibius2]

"General Motors is to phase out the use of Apple CarPlay and its arch rival, Android Auto, from its cars. Existing vehicles will obviously retain the tech, but new electric models will switch to an integrated infotainment system developed with Google.

That’s according to Reuters, which says the first vehicle to benefit will be the 2024 Chevrolet Blazer. GM’s major motivation is to equip its electric cars, trucks and SUVs with tech that is capable of capturing more data that can be crunched to show how drivers use and charge their EVs."


Also posted here:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/03/future-gm-evs-wont-offer-apple-carplay-android-auto-integration/

 

[drmoose]

yeah, old news (sorta). Initially i was like waaaaaaa? I use it al the time and like it a lot for integration of mapping, music, etc. I guess what I like most about it is I can do stuff on my phone before leaving the house (e.g. map search) and it will be ready for when i am in the car. It is EVs only, and I expect it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.

Of note: Tesla and Rivian don't have it, and it does not seem to be hurting their popularity. I think the success will depend on the implementation. For an EV, it might make sense.

Also, you will still be able to stream music from the phone, and the phone communication features should work (talk, text). Basically as I can figure, what you might miss is Apple/Google maps, ABRP, WAZE

Here is a link to an article that gives a slightly different take than of the "everyone hates GM's decision":

GM doubles down on its decision to ditch Android Auto and CarPlay

GM has been under fire lately for its decision to pull the plug on Android Auto and CarPlay in its...

9to5google.com

 

[DuraYuk]

I think android and Apple limit a manufacturers ability to do things with the systems so phasing it out makes sense if they want more creative control. Hopefully it works well. But I doubt you will lose any specific feature.

 

[todayusay]

I think android and Apple limit a manufacturers ability to do things with the systems so phasing it out makes sense if they want more creative control. Hopefully it works well. But I doubt you will lose any specific feature.

"creative control" = more ways to create an additional revenue stream even after the vehicle is sold

you'll lose the ability to have "free" navigation that interfaces with the vehicle when carplay and android auto are phased out.

I'd fully expect whatever platform they utilize to offer "<insert name> maps/navigation" and for it to be subscription based i guess the way the current infotainment is set up. Don't think we've even really accessed the google mess on our 23 tahoe since we aren't paying a monthly fee and didn't buy a GMC that was marked up for those costs.

 

[todayusay]

Here is a link to an article that gives a slightly different take than of the "everyone hates GM's decision":

GM doubles down on its decision to ditch Android Auto and CarPlay

GM has been under fire lately for its decision to pull the plug on Android Auto and CarPlay in its...

9to5google.com

like most biased articles, facts are usually misrepresented...

quotes from the article...

in our 22 Ram and 23 Tahoe, we get in our vehicle at it works...don't have to pair it up every time and no plugging in it...and definitely no waiting a min or two for it to work/startup. Maybe others have all sorts of issues....

not like GM is going to read these forums and "change their mind"

 

[drmoose]

Make everything electric and subscription based, here comes chapter 11…

accroding to reports, the

like most biased articles, facts are usually misrepresented...

quotes from the article...

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in our 22 Ram and 23 Tahoe, we get in our vehicle at it works...don't have to pair it up every time and no plugging in it...and definitely no waiting a min or two for it to work/startup. Maybe others have all sorts of issues....

not like GM is going to read these forums and "change their mind"

ha I agree they were stupid examples, but I think the overall point was that it may make sense in some ways

 

[SpyShops212]

They are not removing it completely. GM is still going to have CarPlay and Android Auto but it won’t be the main system.

 

[Doubeleive]

ahh, just the little tiny tip of the iceberg of what is to come, you should all do your research, soon enough to won't even own one everything will be subscription only including the use of the vehicle. GM has big plans for your future.

 

[GoNoGo]

Meh, I never use my '23 Suburban's infotainment screens anyway (except to program car settings), rather I simply enjoy the drive and being disconnected when outside the house

 

[DuraYuk]

"creative control" = more ways to create an additional revenue stream even after the vehicle is sold

you'll lose the ability to have "free" navigation that interfaces with the vehicle when carplay and android auto are phased out.

I'd fully expect whatever platform they utilize to offer "<insert name> maps/navigation" and for it to be subscription based i guess the way the current infotainment is set up. Don't think we've even really accessed the google mess on our 23 tahoe since we aren't paying a monthly fee and didn't buy a GMC that was marked up for those costs.

Naw. That's not it at all. But i know there's a group here that thinks everyone is out to get them. Gotta be exhausting.

 

[drmoose]

Meh, I never use my '23 Suburban's infotainment screens anyway (except to program car settings), rather I simply enjoy the drive and being disconnected when outside the house

that's a great point

 

[mikez71]

SUURE! You'll be fine if you're one of the following..

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1. ONLY the following governmental agencies qualify for this disable/enable calibration request:
• City / State Government
• Police / Sheriff Departments
• FBI
• CIA
• DEA
• Emergency Vehicles – if government owned

2. All requests are to be made through the Techline Customer Support Center (TCSC) at 1-800-828-6860 English or 1-800-503-3222 French.

3. The dealership will be required to obtain a letter on official agency letterhead requesting the disable/enable. The letter should include the following: – Acknowledgement that the agency owns the vehicle. – The reason for the disable/enable. – Which features are to be disabled/enabled. – Specific VIN(s) of the vehicle(s) that features will be disabled/enabled. – The following statement: “The [insert feature(s) which has/have been requested for disable/enable] system will be made fully operational prior to sale of the vehicle(s) listed above.”

4. The letter must be kept in the service history file at the dealership, and a copy sent to TCSC before the disable/enable procedures/calibrations will be released. In most cases, the vehicle(s) will require a software change, using a VCI number provided by TCSC.
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NOTE: The preceding is *NOT* for apple carplay, but BCM calibrations to disable auto doorlocks, auto headlights, auto-bs etc..

Un-American Jackassery I say.. (although most of my 2012 truck is made in China and Mexico)

 

[todayusay]

Naw. That's not it at all. But i know there's a group here that thinks everyone is out to get them. Gotta be exhausting.

ha - i'll bite.

where in the priority list would the reasons below rank when GM is considering removing the compatibility with a service that GM receives no revenue off the end consumer using?

A - Creating a better user experience
B - Potential for increased subscription revenue
C - Increasing personal data obtained from the consumer
D - add in whatever else you want

We live in a world where a "better user experience" will never be #1...especially from a car manufacturer.

Maybe there are those on here that think GM is "out to get them"...I like that...out to get them like they're being held hostage and being forced to buy something...but with that said, Yukon owners ARE being forced to pay for an option....

nah - the real question - since you own a 23 Yukon, what "if" when you bought it the MSRP was $1k-1500 less (not sure what trim you have).... And then while you were signing papers the finance guy offered up the option to prepay for Onstar/wifi for 3yrs at a cost of $1500. Would you have agreed to pay $1500 more?

If yes, my opinion is that would be the mindset of the minority. Most don't want to pay for something that they many won't realize any value in...

If no...well - see above

 

[tjs3922]

"creative control" = more ways to create an additional revenue stream even after the vehicle is sold

you'll lose the ability to have "free" navigation that interfaces with the vehicle when carplay and android auto are phased out.

I'd fully expect whatever platform they utilize to offer "<insert name> maps/navigation" and for it to be subscription based i guess the way the current infotainment is set up. Don't think we've even really accessed the google mess on our 23 tahoe since we aren't paying a monthly fee and didn't buy a GMC that was marked up for those costs.

Same here. My 23 suburban has that google hot mess. We avoid it at all costs. I never give Onstar my info when we have the welcome call. Really ****** them off. I use Carplay as my main hub. This ay be an issue for me moving forward. As we are looking to trade in our 21 Yukon in summer/fall 2024.