Future 2020/21 Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban

[mikeyss]

From what I've seen of spy shots of the Yukon Denali, that's my favorite so far.

 

[GTNator]

From what I've seen of spy shots of the Yukon Denali, that's my favorite so far.

The leaked photos of the new Escalade look pretty good too. Just got the below email today. That’s a HUGE display, and OLED. The General didn’t hold back; they’re going to spank the Navigator.

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[mikeyss]

The General didn’t hold back; they’re going to spank the Navigator.

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I wouldn't go as far as saying they are gonna spank the Navigator, that's a bit too premature. I haven't seen the 30 way power seats the black label Navigator has, nor the torque numbers of the little Ecoboost. Just because it has a fancy screen doesn't make it a class leader yet.

 

[GTNator]

LOL, GM didn’t take 5 years to only build a large screen, lol.

However, the display is going to be AWESOME.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2021-cadillac-escalade-interior-will-be-one-giant-s-1840460368


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[cardude2000]

The leaked photos of the new Escalade look pretty good too. Just got the below email today. That’s a HUGE display, and OLED. The General didn’t hold back; they’re going to spank the Navigator.

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Not sure what makes you think they’re gojng to spank the navigator but I certainly hope they do. Ford clearly caught GM by surprise and I have to believe that’s why the roll out was so delayed. Real competition is good.

 

[GTNator]

Not sure what makes you think they’re gojng to spank the navigator but I certainly hope they do. Ford clearly caught GM by surprise and I have to believe that’s why the roll out was so delayed. Real competition is good.

Real competition is good and I’m glad Ford has a decent product to up the game for all. Realistically, GM is already spanking Ford in Escalade vs new Navigator sales. Yes Navigator sales went up from embarrassingly low numbers to still only half of Escalade sales. And the sales number comparison is even worse than it looks for Lincoln when you consider GM has a middle tier luxury line in Denali that pulls sales away (cannibalizes) some Escalade sales.

So, because the General is already blowing away the new Navigator, their new Escalade that they worked extra ******* improving will most likely “spank” Navigator even more than they are already doing today with a model that was released in 2014 (as a 2015).


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[cardude2000]

Real competition is good and I’m glad Ford has a decent product to up the game for all. Realistically, GM is already spanking Ford in Escalade vs new Navigator sales. Yes Navigator sales went up from embarrassingly low numbers to still only half of Escalade sales. And the sales number comparison is even worse than it looks for Lincoln when you consider GM has a middle tier luxury line in Denali that pulls sales away (cannibalizes) some Escalade sales.

So, because the General is already blowing away the new Navigator, their new Escalade that they worked extra ******* improving will most likely “spank” Navigator even more than they are already doing today with a model that was released in 2014 (as a 2015).


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Oh you mean sell more. Sure. That’s probably true. Is it a better product? Remains to be seen. Camrys ‘spank’ lots of cars too from a sales standpoint.

 

[GTNator]

Oh you mean sell more. Sure. That’s probably true. Is it a better product? Remains to be seen. Camrys ‘spank’ lots of cars too from a sales standpoint.

Sure, money talks. Every business measures success with revenue/sales. Yes they’ll include other metrics as well, but sales is the bottom line after all.


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[cardude2000]

Sure, money talks. Every business measures success with revenue/sales. Yes they’ll include other metrics as well, but sales is the bottom line after all.


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Sales doesn’t necessarily equate to a better product though. That’s my point.

Britney Spears isnt a better ‘artist’ than Yo-Yo Ma...but she crushes him from a sales standpoint.

 

[GTNator]

Sales doesn’t necessarily equate to a better product though. That’s my point.

Britney Spears isnt a better ‘artist’ than Yo-Yo Ma...but she crushes him from a sales standpoint.

I get what you’re saying, but I think sales is a better metric of better product in the Escalade vs Navigator example, than in the Britney Spears vs Yo-Yo Ma example. Escalade and Navigator target the exact same customer and are therefore similar products. Spears and Ma however, target totally different customers and are different products.

But yes, sales isn’t the only metric of better product, but in this case it’s the most important metric.


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[ItstheHOFF]

Sales doesn’t necessarily equate to a better product though. That’s my point.

Britney Spears isnt a better ‘artist’ than Yo-Yo Ma...but she crushes him from a sales standpoint.

When the Saints SPANKED the Colts on Monday, you can’t argue “yea but the colts are a better team.” That’s not how it works. You can LIKE or PREFER the colts, but the saints are obviously still better.

Case in point, go ahead and like the navigator all you want, but gm is still SPANKING Ford in the full size suv market

 

[cardude2000]

When the Saints SPANKED the Colts on Monday, you can’t argue “yea but the colts are a better team.” That’s not how it works. You can LIKE or PREFER the colts, but the saints are obviously still better.

Case in point, go ahead and like the navigator all you want, but gm is still SPANKING Ford in the full size suv market

Agreed. Camry is the best car in the US and ford makes the best truck in the US.

 

[cardude2000]

When the Saints SPANKED the Colts on Monday, you can’t argue “yea but the colts are a better team.” That’s not how it works. You can LIKE or PREFER the colts, but the saints are obviously still better.

(And you could. If you’re basing it on revenue generated and game attendance)

 

[ItstheHOFF]

Agreed. Camry is the best car in the US and ford makes the best truck in the US.

This argument was about which company sells more. These companies are out to make money. If these companies can make more money off an inferior product, by golly they must have an outstanding marketing department and sales incentives. They always aspire to improve their products, but bottom line is if it’s outselling the competition, they’re happy. I don’t like F-150s and I don’t like camrys, but I also don’t like the patriots. We all KNOW who the “best” are, but often times we choose to buy and support other things.

 

[Doubeleive]

best selling vehicles for 2018
ford 451,000 f-series
chevy 291,000 Silverado
dodge 233,00 Ram
nissan 215,000 Rogue
toyota 198,000 Rav-4

surprising but true

 

[GTNator]

“Late 2020” for Escalade.

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[cardude2000]

best selling vehicles for 2018
ford 451,000 f-series
chevy 291,000 Silverado
dodge 233,00 Ram
nissan 215,000 Rogue
toyota 198,000 Rav-4

surprising but true

Right. Like I said, ford sells the best truck in America.


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[Doubeleive]

I guess that explains why I see so many of them at the junk yard?

 

[cardude2000]

I guess that explains why I see so many of them at the junk yard?

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Could be. With almost 1M sold a year you’re bound to see about 3x as many in the yards

Either way. They’re the best. They are what are sold the most.


https://www.motor1.com/features/280320/20-bestselling-vehicles-2018/amp/

 

[GTNator]

Could be. With almost 1M sold a year you’re bound to see about 3x as many in the yards

Either way. They’re the best. They are what are sold the most.


https://www.motor1.com/features/280320/20-bestselling-vehicles-2018/amp/

Agreed then, Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban/Escalade are the best EVER.


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