'18 Expedition Platinum vs '18 Yukon Denali

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Hi,

I'm in the market for the large SUV and deciding between 2018 Expedition or 2018 Yukon Denali. Price wise, they are similar. I wonder if I could get your input on the followings if you have considered/owned Expedition before.

1. Quality/Reliability of both builds (Historically on these models)
2. Resale value (Historically which one holds better RV?)
3. Repair costs (Historically which one is more expensive?)
4. Maintenance intervals
5. Safety rating (Historically)


Thank you in advance for your support on this!
 

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to be honest for me, I wouldn't buy a ford simply based on the fact that atleast in my area the fords in the junk yards outpace the gm's probably almost 10 to 1 ok maybe 8 to 1 still its crazy, and I don't like there steering wheels and they float like a big old boat going down the highway. go test drive some, put them thru some moves and compare how they handle gm/ford. do some lane changes, do some hard turns, brake and accelerate hard, do some empty lot sharp turns left/right, to me the difference is night and day.
 

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The Ford guys will most likely say how the 18 Expy/Navi is more "family friendly"...whatever that means...it's an SUV just like the GM ones for crying out loud. And how nice the interior is on a model that's 4 years ahead of the GMs.
Question is how important are looks to you?
The ride can only be so smooth and the seats can only be so comfy.
Even with Fords best shot(18 Navigator), they still don't look better than any of the 3 GM SUVs.
 

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Hi,

I'm in the market for the large SUV and deciding between 2018 Expedition or 2018 Yukon Denali. Price wise, they are similar. I wonder if I could get your input on the followings if you have considered/owned Expedition before.

1. Quality/Reliability of both builds (Historically on these models)
2. Resale value (Historically which one holds better RV?)
3. Repair costs (Historically which one is more expensive?)
4. Maintenance intervals
5. Safety rating (Historically)


Thank you in advance for your support on this!


Sure sounds like questions to ask on an Edmunds forum or one of the Car magazines.

You are certainly not going to get unbiased opinions on a GM based forum
 

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I was in the same boat as you a few months back, do i order an Expy or get a 2017 Tahoe. I went with the tahoe. I hope i don't regret it. But here is my take;

The GM was far more expensive in 2017 than the 2017 Ford. The 2018 Ford expy will be far more expensive than the GM from what i am seeing. The platnium trim is up near 80k. Sorry, but won't take that kind of risk for a first year model.

Again, this is a first year model. It should be fine, however, first year anything you have to expect some issues to pop up.

I was unsure about the Ecoboost motor. There seems to be issues with gas getting into the oil causing sludge. Now, they may have fixed it with the new EB, but there is information saying that the motor will have issues on some vehicles around the 100k mark. That will either kill resale or cost you money to fix. I am just not sold on the 6 cyl with turbo yet.

The ford also is not that attractive. To me it looks like the ford flex. The expy hasn't been attractive since the early 2000's where it actually looked nice. The GM vehicles turn heads. I have had so many comments on my black tahoe i lost count. It just looks awesome.

gas mileage, the ford, even thou claimed it matches the GM in the real world doesn't seem to be true. I can get up to 23 mpg in the summer with my tahoe. My neighbor has the 2017 Explorer with the 3.5 and he hasn't seen over 20 yet on highway. Said he is averaging about 18.5 when he babies it. When you are in the turbo it burns gas.

Ford will have a better tow rating than the 5.3L GM, but the heaviest i tow is about 6k lbs. If i ever go above that i will get a pickup with a diesel which is meant to tow more. My tahoe is rated for 8300lbs and the ford can get up to 8500 lbs i believe so not much of a difference.

All that being said, i have owned alot of fords in my life. 2 Expys', 3 F150's. This is my first GM with the Tahoe. Some of the fords were fantastic, some not so much. My 2006 Liarat 150 was the biggest POS i have ever owned with the 5.4L motor. It left me stranded 2x in under 65k miles. I swore i wouldn't buy another. Once i stranded in the winter outside of cell coverage. Fuel injectors, electrical issues and terrible dealer support. I am not saying the Expy will be junk, quite the contrary, just saying take a look at the big picture.. you will be spending alot of money.
 
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Thanks, guys.

Good feedback. I agree that Expy will sure have some issues as it's 1st year production. And glad to see hunter991 pointing out on the turbo engine as I did not pay attention to it much. I'd assume that the turbo engine won't last as long as non-turbo engine w/o any issue in my view. I'd like to own a car for many years w/o many issues. So matured model might be the way to go. I will drive both and see which I'd like the better. If I end up with liking Expy more, I might wait for another year to get the car.

Is stock light of Denali bothering anybody, not bright enough? I understand that those are not LED.

Thanks again.
 

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I don’t like the way the Expedition looks and I’ve never had good luck with the 3 F150s I’ve had in the not so distant past.
 
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So historically Ford is always inferior to GM in quality/durability?
 

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So historically Ford is always inferior to GM in quality/durability?

In short no. Look up longest lasting vehicle studies and Ford usually fairs better. Expedition is the 4th longest lasting vehicle in America (older ones not the new one who knows).
 

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Ford has historically better reliability and the new Expedition outpaces the current gen GM’s in many ways (interior space, torque, HP, interior fit/finish, technology etc)

Their exteriors are virtually identical so that’s a toss up IMO.

But you’re in the wrong place if you’re looking for pragmatic well balanced answers. Check consumer reports (believe it or not some people believe even they are in on a massive anti GM conspiracy lol) and check out things like historical and predicted reliability.

Drive what you like and then buy that. Gotta like what you drive. Have fun!!


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Have you driven them yet? I just compared the 15 Lincoln version of the Expedition before I bought my 15 Yukon Denali. I have owned a Flex oddly enough and really liked it... so there was a lot similar in the Expy - only "more" of it - that I had in the Flex. There was nothing wrong with the Ford (Lincoln) that I drove, had the EcoB which is pretty stout getting 380HP and 470lb. The seats I found to be very comfortable as well, I'd say a little more cushion than the Yukon. Also it was about $8k less...

Still after my drive, while I didn't find anything really wrong with the Expy, I didn't find anything I really loved either. I drove the Yukon Denali the next day and it was an easy choice.... I'm not going to knock any brand I've owned them all and generally speaking have had good experiences. But there is a substantial difference behind the wheel of the Yukon that I knew I'd regret passing on with the Lincoln. Don't let the EcoB horror stories scare you off - there are literally hundreds of thousands maybe even reaching into the millions when you consider Ford has an Ecob in nearly every model car, truck and SUV.

Drive them both and look for features that matter to you - storage space, comfort, visibility, ride difference. The Yukon (at least mine) has a much firmer ride - in a good way - where the Lincoln had a lot more body roll and "float" feeling. That might be your preference, who knows. Anyway these are both really good SUV's with a ton of capability and best thing you can do is drive them and play the dealers off each other to your advantage :)

Good luck!
 

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Drive them both on extended drives and choose which one suits you best.

I’m been loyal to GM for 20 years but objectively faced with that decision today I’d lean Ford for a variety of reasons, with seating comfort being in the lead.

Those casting doubt on fords 3.5 turbo’s reliability are incorrect imo. Sure there are occasional issues, just like there have been issues with the 5.3 and 6.2 GM motors. Ford has sold well over a million of the 3.5 TT. It’s not an experiment.
 

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Drive them both and look for features that matter to you - storage space, comfort, visibility, ride difference. The Yukon (at least mine) has a much firmer ride - in a good way - where the Lincoln had a lot more body roll and "float" feeling. That might be your preference, who knows. Anyway these are both really good SUV's with a ton of capability and best thing you can do is drive them and play the dealers off each other to your advantage :)

Good luck!
I agree with this. I like the new Expy as I also like the looks of the new Explorer. I feel the new Expy has more of a Range Rover look to it than Flex. JMO
I don't think one can compare their Yukon Denali to a previous platform Expy/Navi being as how this is a new platform. In the past I felt the Ford offerings were rather blah compared to the Denali. Certain things were just so unpolished or rough on the Ford products- exposed rear windshield wiper, exposed trailer hitch, exposed muffler. The backs of these vehicles was just so ugly.
Now having owned an 09 Expy EL and having rented several Navigators through Enterprise I must say they are a better riding, more luxurious vehicle from the interior aspect. The seats themselves are so much nicer (plusher) than those in the Denali. However the Denali definitely feels more sporty.
I like how in the Denali I feel I am driving a V8 truck. I feel like there is something under me.
The Ford's feel like riding on a cloud, as mentioned above. The Denali definitely has a much more aggressive look to it. Ford's just never seem to have an edgy look to them. They are built to appease the masses. Well except for the Raptor and Mustang. They are pretty bad ass.
I would drive both. But the new Expy certainly would interest me too if I was in the market.
 

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I wouldn't touch the Navigator simply because its the first year out of the updated model, and a big one for me is I can't stand the ecoboost motor. I had a 12 F150 ecoboost and it was horrible, the turbo delay was horrible and for towing my car hauler it sucked. I only like the linear power deliver of a NA motor, but that's me. Love my 17 Denali, tows fantastic.
 

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I’m not an ecoboost fan either, I believe in cubes. Want a great ford engine? Go modular V8 or the 6.2L Boss, simple design, big cubic inches and great power delivery. Love the feel of American displacement. Still the 3.5 is fine but I prefer their naturally aspirated engines.
 

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those wheels... are hideous: https://www.lincoln.com/cmslibs/con..._content/renditions/cq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg

Expedition decent looking, but I guess I was expecting more of a design change than just riff'n on the Explorer.

I say this as a half ford (father in law) half GM (grandfather) family and we try to keep 1 of each vehicle to keep the peace :)

I hope next refresh for GM catches up interior wise. I liked my old '09 Ford Escape's console better than my '15 Tahoe
 

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those wheels... are hideous: https://www.lincoln.com/cmslibs/con..._content/renditions/cq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg

Expedition decent looking, but I guess I was expecting more of a design change than just riff'n on the Explorer.

I say this as a half ford (father in law) half GM (grandfather) family and we try to keep 1 of each vehicle to keep the peace :)

I hope next refresh for GM catches up interior wise. I liked my old '09 Ford Escape's console better than my '15 Tahoe


I agree but the navi looks much better with the other wheel options.
 

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Pictures don't do the Navi justice, you have to see it in person.
 

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I agree...I've seen many on the road and they do tend to have more of an edgy/classy look than what pictures show.
 

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