Yukon XL 2025 Vs Grand Wagoneer 2025?

[BacDoc]

Hi))
There is another important nuance here that I did not mention right away, in Russia we have increased customs duties on cars with an engine capacity of more than 3 liters, and less than 3 years old) and therefore it turns out that a car, for example, a Yukon 6.2 liter in Russia costs about 200 thousand dollars, and a Yukon 3 liter diesel and a Grand Wagoneer 3.0 T cost about 150 thousand dollars... I really don’t like diesel, and I don’t want one)))
And now I'm sitting here thinking...is my love for the V8 worth $50,000)))
As for my place of residence, you are not quite right)) I live in a large metropolis, in the capital of Russia, Moscow)))) I just love to travel by car, around Russia and neighboring countries, that's why I have a lot of photos from the mountains or forests) in particular, photos in the snow, this photo was taken on the other side of the Ural Mountains, in Siberia, in winter, at a temperature of -40C.

Your photos look great and I assumed you were in a more rural location. Either way it’s hard to beat performance of a V8
But. Wow!!!
That is a lot extra $ for the 6.2l V8!

The option of keeping your current rig is a definitely something to consider.
From my experience it is not worth getting a new vehicle if you’re not going up in performance or value.

If it’s possible to rent a Wagoneer for a few days to a week that might help you make a decision. Even if it’s expensive, it might be worth the cost as you can expierence some of the things that are mentioned in the other posts.

The performance, sound and the look of the rear dual exhaust with 4 tail pipes is a totally different experience than a twin turbo V6.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Sooner or later, it always comes down to money and taxes (I guess those are the same thing).
In this case I guess you could buy yourself the Wagoneer and a Honda-CRV or Toyota RAV4 as a spare, for when the Wagoneer is broken down
Or you could just get a Yukon and keep loving it.
Or, you could see if you can get that beautiful ride you currently own to take you another 100K.

No, having two cars is not an easy task))) And there is no point, just for the sake of a reserve? We have a great car sharing service, if your car breaks down, you can always take any of the thousands of free ones in the city and go about your daily business.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Your photos look great and I assumed you were in a more rural location. Either way it’s hard to beat performance of a V8
But. Wow!!!
That is a lot extra $ for the 6.2l V8!

The option of keeping your current rig is a definitely something to consider.
From my experience it is not worth getting a new vehicle if you’re not going up in performance or value.

If it’s possible to rent a Wagoneer for a few days to a week that might help you make a decision. Even if it’s expensive, it might be worth the cost as you can expierence some of the things that are mentioned in the other posts.

The performance, sound and the look of the rear dual exhaust with 4 tail pipes is a totally different experience than a twin turbo V6. View attachment 455703

Yes, there is logic in your words. We have a phrase, "To swap one awl for another". It means that you exchange one not very important thing for another not very important thing))) and a car is exactly that, not very important, but we, men, really like it) As for my Yukon, I have an assumption that it may require serious expenses in units. Thank God I didn't have a problem with the 6.2 engine, but the automatic transmission and suspension will obviously wear out by 200,000 km. And the engine itself, it seems to me, may require attention.
The funny thing is that after owning the Yukon for 2.5 years, I still haven't gotten tired of the way it looks. I see people paying attention to it when it's parked, kids regularly come up to take pictures with it. Damn, the Yukon is awesome, and I really like the 2025 Yukon. But I realize that I'm not getting much new in the 25 Yukon.
and Wagoneer gives something new, new functions, new sensations. Unfortunately, we can't rent it, it's too rare a car.

 

[blkfalc4]

You got 200k relatively trouble free miles out of your Yukon...seems like reloading would be prudent. It is not like you baby yours, you drive it hard and in some serious weather.

Just an FYI......120k kilometers = 74.5k miles

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Just an FYI......120k kilometers = 74.5k miles

He said 200k km, so thats 120k miles...stand corrected..

 

[Vladimir2306]

He said 200k km, so thats 120k miles...stand corrected..

I now have 120 thousand kilometers or 75 thousand miles, by the third year of ownership I predict 200 thousand kilometers or 120 thousand miles

 

[gatorintx]

There's only one thing I don't like about the Grand Wagoneer, it's the console between the second row seats. In the regular Wagoneer there's a passage, which is very convenient with four children))) but I don't like the regular Wagoneer)

I've got both a Yukon XL and a Wagoneer. I daily drive the Yukon, wife daily drives the Wagoneer. I don't have the Grand Wagoneer, but I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about similarities/differences. My biggest gripes with the Wagoneer are that the mirrors are manual-folding and the door handle touch lock/unlock feature is only on the front doors. I believe that both of those issues are resolved with a Grand Wagoneer - they have electronic folding mirrors and touch lock/unlock on the rear doors. I test drove a Grand Wagoneer and that engine is a beast, it pulls HARD. I tend to agree that the center console in the middle row (on the Grand Wagoneer) is hard with kids. The Grand Wagoneer really is more comparable to an Escalade, but I can't say which is better, per se. I think there are pros and cons of each. If you're strictly comparing a Yukon XL to a Grand Wagoneer, the Grand Wagoneer will be nicer, for sure, with a lot more bells and whistles. The price difference will also be significant.

 

[TheClassic]

Have you considered an Expedition? We switched from expedition to Yukon and I regret it, at least for the way we use the vehicle (often a full vehicle). I have written up a comparison with my reasoning, but haven't posted it yet, maybe I can post it tonight and link it here.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Have you considered an Expedition? We switched from expedition to Yukon and I regret it, at least for the way we use the vehicle (often a full vehicle). I have written up a comparison with my reasoning, but haven't posted it yet, maybe I can post it tonight and link it here.

No, I'm not considering the Expedition, I had an idea about the 2025 Lincoln Navigator, but I drove the 2023 Navigator, I really didn't like how it drove. It's somehow not assembled, or something, the frame Yukon in this regard is clearer, tougher, more confident. Well, and still Ford is Ford, it is somewhat simpler than GMC in terms of positioning.

 

[Vladimir2306]

I've got both a Yukon XL and a Wagoneer. I daily drive the Yukon, wife daily drives the Wagoneer. I don't have the Grand Wagoneer, but I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about similarities/differences. My biggest gripes with the Wagoneer are that the mirrors are manual-folding and the door handle touch lock/unlock feature is only on the front doors. I believe that both of those issues are resolved with a Grand Wagoneer - they have electronic folding mirrors and touch lock/unlock on the rear doors. I test drove a Grand Wagoneer and that engine is a beast, it pulls HARD. I tend to agree that the center console in the middle row (on the Grand Wagoneer) is hard with kids. The Grand Wagoneer really is more comparable to an Escalade, but I can't say which is better, per se. I think there are pros and cons of each. If you're strictly comparing a Yukon XL to a Grand Wagoneer, the Grand Wagoneer will be nicer, for sure, with a lot more bells and whistles. The price difference will also be significant.

How much have you driven on the Wagoneer? How is the suspension condition? I talk to our mechanics, they say that the Wagoneer suspension requires attention already at 20-40 thousand kilometers. While the GM runs 100-150 thousand kilometers without problems.

 

[gatorintx]

How much have you driven on the Wagoneer? How is the suspension condition? I talk to our mechanics, they say that the Wagoneer suspension requires attention already at 20-40 thousand kilometers. While the GM runs 100-150 thousand kilometers without problems.

My wife daily drives the Wagoneer, but I drive it on weekends or if we need to switch vehicles. Ours has the adjustable air ride suspension, and it's really nice. Only put about 20k miles on it though, so I can't comment on the long term reliability of it.

 

[rlhmarines]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

 

[B-train]

I now have 120 thousand kilometers or 75 thousand miles, by the third year of ownership I predict 200 thousand kilometers or 120 thousand miles

Well, you shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as your maintenance program is good. I'm currently at 319,551 km (198,560 miles) on my 2008 6.2L and 277,359 km (172,343 miles) on my 2017 6.2L. Granted one is non-AFM and the other is non-DFM, but with good service they last. I plan on trying for another 100k out of the 2017 when it becomes my daily driver and the wife gets something different.

I'd say for the astounding cost associated with buying a GM vehicle in Russia, I'd run that thing for a while yet. Parts and maintenance are cheap in the long run......especially in your case.

 

[Vladimir2306]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

I read about the Wagonir, there are problems with the suspension. In general, the units are reliable, but some little thing always comes up. And if for GM we have large services in Russia with the availability of common spare parts, then for the Wagonir everything will have to be ordered from the USA.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Well, you shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as your maintenance program is good. I'm currently at 319,551 km (198,560 miles) on my 2008 6.2L and 277,359 km (172,343 miles) on my 2017 6.2L. Granted one is non-AFM and the other is non-DFM, but with good service they last. I plan on trying for another 100k out of the 2017 when it becomes my daily driver and the wife gets something different.

I'd say for the astounding cost associated with buying a GM vehicle in Russia, I'd run that thing for a while yet. Parts and maintenance are cheap in the long run......especially in your case.

The purchase price in the US is simply the entry level to buying this car. For example, my 2022 Yukon with 120 thousand km, or 75 thousand miles, I can easily sell it now for about $125 thousand)) and by paying only $25 thousand more get a new 2025 Yukon)) We only live once, I want to drive a new car) Yes, I pulled out a lucky ticket with my 6.2 engine, but who knows will it withstand me after 200 thousand km)
In my experience, with my mode of car operation, which is fast driving, and mileage per year is about 35-40 thousand miles per year, after 125 thousand miles, automatic transmission repair is already required, and average engine repair. According to my estimates, this can cost 20-25 thousand dollars. So it seems easier to me to pay the same 25 thousand dollars, and drive a new car))

 

[Saltydog]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

That is interesting, as I had the opposite experience. Our 2021 Yukon had so much shake on the bumps and RR crossings and our GW is completely the opposite, it is so smooth.

But from many on here, it seems GM has made improvements to the ride quality.

As much as I love our GW, I am sure to be back in a Yukon soon, as we have a bit of lemon

 

[rlhmarines]

That is interesting, as I had the opposite experience. Our 2021 Yukon had so much shake on the bumps and RR crossings and our GW is completely the opposite, it is so smooth.

But from many on here, it seems GM has made improvements to the ride quality.

As much as I love our GW, I am sure to be back in a Yukon soon, as we have a bit of lemon

Yeah the Grand Wagoneer definitely shook, rattled and felt not well put together especially around the B pillar area as compared to the new High Country. I use this particular railroad crossing as a reference to help with gauging overall body/chassis stiffness especially in vehicles with panoramic roofs and this crossing is a fairly smooth one that you don’t have to slow down from to cross since it’s on a major road posted for 55 mph.

 

[Saltydog]

Yeah the Grand Wagoneer definitely shook, rattled and felt not well put together especially around the B pillar area as compared to the new High Country. I use this particular railroad crossing as a reference to help with gauging overall body/chassis stiffness especially in vehicles with panoramic roofs and this crossing is a fairly smooth one that you don’t have to slow down from to cross since it’s on a major road posted for 55 mph.

Definitely a good practice, I should have done a bit more test driving on the 2021 Yukon, but it was COVID and there was not a lot of options and there was no time to think about it. We did not even test drive out of the lot? LOL but it was a pretty good car overall and it did not have many issues unlike our GW.

In our next Yukon, it will have the Air Suspension.