Yukon XL 2025 Vs Grand Wagoneer 2025?

[gatorintx]

How much have you driven on the Wagoneer? How is the suspension condition? I talk to our mechanics, they say that the Wagoneer suspension requires attention already at 20-40 thousand kilometers. While the GM runs 100-150 thousand kilometers without problems.

My wife daily drives the Wagoneer, but I drive it on weekends or if we need to switch vehicles. Ours has the adjustable air ride suspension, and it's really nice. Only put about 20k miles on it though, so I can't comment on the long term reliability of it.

 

[rlhmarines]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

 

[B-train]

I now have 120 thousand kilometers or 75 thousand miles, by the third year of ownership I predict 200 thousand kilometers or 120 thousand miles

Well, you shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as your maintenance program is good. I'm currently at 319,551 km (198,560 miles) on my 2008 6.2L and 277,359 km (172,343 miles) on my 2017 6.2L. Granted one is non-AFM and the other is non-DFM, but with good service they last. I plan on trying for another 100k out of the 2017 when it becomes my daily driver and the wife gets something different.

I'd say for the astounding cost associated with buying a GM vehicle in Russia, I'd run that thing for a while yet. Parts and maintenance are cheap in the long run......especially in your case.

 

[Vladimir2306]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

I read about the Wagonir, there are problems with the suspension. In general, the units are reliable, but some little thing always comes up. And if for GM we have large services in Russia with the availability of common spare parts, then for the Wagonir everything will have to be ordered from the USA.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Well, you shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as your maintenance program is good. I'm currently at 319,551 km (198,560 miles) on my 2008 6.2L and 277,359 km (172,343 miles) on my 2017 6.2L. Granted one is non-AFM and the other is non-DFM, but with good service they last. I plan on trying for another 100k out of the 2017 when it becomes my daily driver and the wife gets something different.

I'd say for the astounding cost associated with buying a GM vehicle in Russia, I'd run that thing for a while yet. Parts and maintenance are cheap in the long run......especially in your case.

The purchase price in the US is simply the entry level to buying this car. For example, my 2022 Yukon with 120 thousand km, or 75 thousand miles, I can easily sell it now for about $125 thousand)) and by paying only $25 thousand more get a new 2025 Yukon)) We only live once, I want to drive a new car) Yes, I pulled out a lucky ticket with my 6.2 engine, but who knows will it withstand me after 200 thousand km)
In my experience, with my mode of car operation, which is fast driving, and mileage per year is about 35-40 thousand miles per year, after 125 thousand miles, automatic transmission repair is already required, and average engine repair. According to my estimates, this can cost 20-25 thousand dollars. So it seems easier to me to pay the same 25 thousand dollars, and drive a new car))

 

[Saltydog]

I test drove a Grand Wagoneer before getting our High Country from a rental car company and it was as nice inside as an Escalade as far as interior appointments are concerned with what I would kill for in being able to have messaging seats. The Grand Wagoneer’s twin turbo 3.0 inline six has a little more get up and go than the 6.2 since it is a highly stressed boosted engine that has more horsepower and torque.

The Grand Wagoneer had the air ride suspension and the panoramic roof but what really turned me off on the Grand Wagoneer was how it drove especially over rough pavement like railroad crossing. It had a noticeable amount shaking that is not present in our High Country which also has the air ride suspension with also the panoramic roof so it’s a direct comparison of the build and structure. I didn’t expect that at all. I don’t feel the durability is there as compared to our trucks even with the recent recall on the 6.2 V8 plus the styling is not attractive in my opinion but that’s my opinion only.

That is interesting, as I had the opposite experience. Our 2021 Yukon had so much shake on the bumps and RR crossings and our GW is completely the opposite, it is so smooth.

But from many on here, it seems GM has made improvements to the ride quality.

As much as I love our GW, I am sure to be back in a Yukon soon, as we have a bit of lemon

 

[rlhmarines]

That is interesting, as I had the opposite experience. Our 2021 Yukon had so much shake on the bumps and RR crossings and our GW is completely the opposite, it is so smooth.

But from many on here, it seems GM has made improvements to the ride quality.

As much as I love our GW, I am sure to be back in a Yukon soon, as we have a bit of lemon

Yeah the Grand Wagoneer definitely shook, rattled and felt not well put together especially around the B pillar area as compared to the new High Country. I use this particular railroad crossing as a reference to help with gauging overall body/chassis stiffness especially in vehicles with panoramic roofs and this crossing is a fairly smooth one that you don’t have to slow down from to cross since it’s on a major road posted for 55 mph.

 

[Saltydog]

Yeah the Grand Wagoneer definitely shook, rattled and felt not well put together especially around the B pillar area as compared to the new High Country. I use this particular railroad crossing as a reference to help with gauging overall body/chassis stiffness especially in vehicles with panoramic roofs and this crossing is a fairly smooth one that you don’t have to slow down from to cross since it’s on a major road posted for 55 mph.

Definitely a good practice, I should have done a bit more test driving on the 2021 Yukon, but it was COVID and there was not a lot of options and there was no time to think about it. We did not even test drive out of the lot? LOL but it was a pretty good car overall and it did not have many issues unlike our GW.

In our next Yukon, it will have the Air Suspension.