Towing Question about the Squat

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anyone towing 5-max tow load with a 21/22 with magnetic ride control suspension? Trying to figure out how bad of a squat ill be dealing with with my 2022 RST burb when it actually gets here. I do plan on getting a aluminum enclosed trailer at some point so I know a good weight distribution hitch will do wonders.
 

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anyone towing 5-max tow load with a 21/22 with magnetic ride control suspension? Trying to figure out how bad of a squat ill be dealing with with my 2022 RST burb when it actually gets here. I do plan on getting a aluminum enclosed trailer at some point so I know a good weight distribution hitch will do wonders.
I'm interesting in more towing reviews with a Suburban or Yukon XL. I'd prefer not to have the air suspension because a good coil spring and shock/strut combo should be sufficient.
 

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anyone towing 5-max tow load with a 21/22 with magnetic ride control suspension? Trying to figure out how bad of a squat ill be dealing with with my 2022 RST burb when it actually gets here. I do plan on getting a aluminum enclosed trailer at some point so I know a good weight distribution hitch will do wonders.
With the magnetic ride control suspension, don't you also get the air lift rear shocks and a built-in compressor as well?
 

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With the magnetic ride control suspension, don't you also get the air lift rear shocks and a built-in compressor as well?
I believe vehicles can be optioned with MRC but without air suspension.

Personally, I'd rather have an air suspension system that supplements traditional coil springs. If the air suspension fails, at least the vehicle won't be squatting on the ground when unloaded.
 

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I'm interesting in more towing reviews with a Suburban or Yukon XL. I'd prefer not to have the air suspension because a good coil spring and shock/strut combo should be sufficient.
I've towed one time so far with our '21 XL with regular coil shocks and it's pretty obvious that these rigs will need some kind of air bag/helper spring. I towed a 2 door ford explorer sport on a 10k tilt deck and the sag was pretty obvious. Plenty of power and stopped just fine (even though I have no max tow or even a trailer brake controller) but the sag is real...

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I've towed one time so far with our '21 XL with regular coil shocks and it's pretty obvious that these rigs will need some kind of air bag/helper spring. I towed a 2 door ford explorer sport on a 10k tilt deck and the sag was pretty obvious. Plenty of power and stopped just fine (even though I have no max tow or even a trailer brake controller) but the sag is real...

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Unfortunately, I don't think either of those options change the spring rate which is the problem here. With a IRS design, I think there are limited locations where an aftermarket company would be able to implement an air bag.

How much do you think a WDH would have helped in your case?
 
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I've towed one time so far with our '21 XL with regular coil shocks and it's pretty obvious that these rigs will need some kind of air bag/helper spring. I towed a 2 door ford explorer sport on a 10k tilt deck and the sag was pretty obvious. Plenty of power and stopped just fine (even though I have no max tow or even a trailer brake controller) but the sag is real...

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doesn't look too terrible at least. We picked the max tow option with the 6.2l. I think with a good WDS we should be ok.......I hope
 

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Unfortunately, I don't think either of those options change the spring rate which is the problem here. With a IRS design, I think there are limited locations where an aftermarket company would be able to implement an air bag.

How much do you think a WDH would have helped in your case?
I had honestly never heard of a WDH and just had to hit up google to see what you were talking about. Can't say I fully understand how those work but they appear to combat the sagging issue. That said, I have hauled at least 30 different vehicles on this trailer and a deckover before that and never had any issue to speak of. Mostly used our 2011 suburban z71 and it sagged way worse than this new rig. Also never had a trailer brake controller either. Never an issue with braking, stopping or swaying in 10+ years (knock on wood). I have extreme confidence in my towing abilities/situational awareness but I may upgrade this new rig to at least have a brake controller installed.
 

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I had honestly never heard of a WDH and just had to hit up google to see what you were talking about. Can't say I fully understand how those work but they appear to combat the sagging issue. That said, I have hauled at least 30 different vehicles on this trailer and a deckover before that and never had any issue to speak of. Mostly used our 2011 suburban z71 and it sagged way worse than this new rig. Also never had a trailer brake controller either. Never an issue with braking, stopping or swaying in 10+ years (knock on wood). I have extreme confidence in my towing abilities/situational awareness but I may upgrade this new rig to at least have a brake controller installed.
I would highly recommend a trailer brake controller. I think most states require functioning trailer brakes on trailers over 3000/4000#.
 

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I had honestly never heard of a WDH and just had to hit up google to see what you were talking about. Can't say I fully understand how those work but they appear to combat the sagging issue. That said, I have hauled at least 30 different vehicles on this trailer and a deckover before that and never had any issue to speak of. Mostly used our 2011 suburban z71 and it sagged way worse than this new rig. Also never had a trailer brake controller either. Never an issue with braking, stopping or swaying in 10+ years (knock on wood). I have extreme confidence in my towing abilities/situational awareness but I may upgrade this new rig to at least have a brake controller installed.
Are you trolling us?
 

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It’s all good and fine until it’s not. Guess it’s just not a risk I’m willing to take.
Probably more luck than skill all these years but I mostly buy/tow little vw cars (golf, jetta, rabbit, cabrio) and you hardly notice those things are behind you. I do plan to outfit this rig better for towing as my ‘95 Silverado isn’t really up to the task anymore at 265k miles
 

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With the magnetic ride control suspension, don't you also get the air lift rear shocks and a built-in compressor as well?
I have a 2022 yukon xl denali on its way, has magnetic ride control but no air lift. To add air lift need to upgrade to 22" wheels and then add the air suspension.
 

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I have a 2022 yukon xl denali on its way, has magnetic ride control but no air lift. To add air lift need to upgrade to 22" wheels and then add the air suspension.
I wish you can get air suspension with the 20" wheels.
 

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I have a 2022 yukon xl denali on its way, has magnetic ride control but no air lift. To add air lift need to upgrade to 22" wheels and then add the air suspension.
Interesting. So not an automatically included in the Denali series for 2022, but instead, yet another option and price add-on.
 

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Interesting. So not an automatically included in the Denali series for 2022, but instead, yet another option and price add-on.
exactly, I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.

how's this one, you can order with 20", with tow package. but no air ride.
 

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exactly, I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.

how's this one, you can order with 20", with tow package. but no air ride.
Well, as far as I know (not the original owner) my 07 Denali came with the air suspension included in the Denali trim package.
 

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Careful here guys. Don't want to lead folks astray, especially those who may be new and looking for something specific. It's confusing enough with GM putting holds on various packages and/or components. Some of what can and can't be had is because of availability, not because it can't be ordered a particular way. The air ride wasn't part of the Denali package in 2021 either so that isn't new. Don't know about before that, so maybe it has something to do with the IRS setup.

Since 2021 at least, the air ride could be ordered separately, or as part of upgrade packages (ultimate/premium, or whatever, just check the website for current contents). 20 inch vs 22 inch wheels is also part of package upgrades. Otherwise it's also your choice when ordered separately, independent of air ride and/or tow package. I avoided the upgrade packages, other than Technology Package, on my 21 Denali because they included things I didn't want. The rest of the order was ala carte. So, I got 20 inch wheels, Magneride, no air ride and Tow without Max Trailering. Could have had air ride with the 20's, or no air ride and 22's. Not many cross-system options are mutually exclusive.
 
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