Strike??? Thoughts, insights, predictions.

[tjs3922]

Anyone here have any feel for the upcoming possible auto worker strike? My understanding is that the side are quite far apart. GM offering approx 2-3% pay increase per year for 4 years with a lump sum $6000 payment. Union wants 11.5% increase per year with many old school benefits restored such as defined pensions.

My local dealer seems pretty certain a strike will happen and they have received a ton of inventory over the 2-3 weeks.

I am next up for an Ultimate allocation so I have a bit of interest in how this plays out.

To me, both side seems absurd with what they want. The reality will be almost right down the middle. I am looking at 5% increase per year for the 4 year contract and a lump sum payment along with a few tweaks for the membership.

We will see how this plays out as it will affect any industrial product, service provider across the USA.

 

[Banks22]

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Anyone here have any feel for the upcoming possible auto worker strike? My understanding is that the side are quite far apart. GM offering approx 2-3% pay increase per year for 4 years with a lump sum $6000 payment. Union wants 11.5% increase per year with many old school benefits restored such as defined pensions.

My local dealer seems pretty certain a strike will happen and they have received a ton of inventory over the 2-3 weeks.

I am next up for an Ultimate allocation so I have a bit of interest in how this plays out.

To me, both side seems absurd with what they want. The reality will be almost right down the middle. I am looking at 5% increase per year for the 4 year contract and a lump sum payment along with a few tweaks for the membership.

We will see how this plays out as it will affect any industrial product, service provider across the USA.

just read couple hours ago I think GM offered 20% raise. I have a 9/25 TPW for our high country suburban. A strike will also raise the value of our 21’ Tahoe to sell so interested to see what happens as well….

 

[tjs3922]

I think the 20% over 4 years get this much closer. Maybe they can avoid a strike and keep on negotiating.

 

[Banks22]

I think the 20% over 4 years get this much closer. Maybe they can avoid a strike and keep on negotiating.

I think the uaw president is the issue, I’m sure he’s trying to get his pockets filled too and is getting greedy. He’s made enough of a spectacle of himself by his videos throwing proposals in the garbage

 

[B-train]

I couldn't give a rip either way. I buy only used stuff, and then run it for years. It may have an affect on those who always need new, prices will go up for sure.

You have to look at both sides though. Corporations have been making boat loads of money off blue collar for YEARS. Do they have to work hard (blue collar)? Not really comparatively to other trades, but still it's a job that doesn't get huge bonuses or stock options like the upper mgt.

It will win for both sides, always does. They (mgt) will whine and moan about how much it costs them for labor.......but will secretly do cartwheels of joy when they can slap an extra 20k on an escalade for some newer options.

THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS

 

[Banks22]

@B-train idk man they are beginning to price themselves so high that the new sales are going to drop and people will keep their rigs longer. Especially 1500 trucks, those are getting out of control.

 

[TollKeeper]

As someone that worked for GM back in 2009, and subsequently got laid off from the bankruptcy..

**There is more to my thought here.. But someone decided it needed to be deleted for unknown reasons.**

 

[DuraYuk]

Prediction: I don't see it happening. Line work at a vehicle manufacturer is really not that bad. Anything heavy is on a fixture. Even the tools. It's made so that anyone big or small strong or weak can work any point of it.

If anyone should go on strike it's the poor techs working flat rate at dealerships. They work harder in worse conditions with no guarantee of pay. It's a racket and surprised it's not a bigger issue.

Car techs get paid stupid low for what they do.

 

[CDONNS]

Hopefully not but I'm not too optimistic. My XL Denali had a TPW of this week, 9/11, so hopefully it gets out of the door before anything goes down, but we shall see. Does anyone know if the transportation side (factory to dealer) falls under the same union force? Watching this site closely: https://region8.uaw.org/uaw-local-276

 

[todayusay]

Prediction: I don't see it happening. Line work at a vehicle manufacturer is really not that bad. Anything heavy is on a fixture. Even the tools. It's made so that anyone big or small strong or weak can work any point of it.

If anyone should go on strike it's the poor techs working flat rate at dealerships. They work harder in worse conditions with no guarantee of pay. It's a racket and surprised it's not a bigger issue.

Car techs get paid stupid low for what they do.

local guy that has a cell phone repair business said he worked as a GM tech for a couple years. said when he went and asked for a raise, he got shot down. his basis for asking was that he had one of the highest warranty approval percentages - because he could actually write up the request to where it'd get pushed through. now he may have been blowing smoke but that makes sense at least, and the dealership of course said no. Don't know how much he was asking for but he was still ticked years' later

 

[66 Galaxie]

When all is said and done, more auto jobs will probably go to Mexico where labor costs are far less…

 

[Banks22]

They didn’t do Arlington, atleast not yet.
Colorado/canyon and the big vans

About 13,000 workers go on strike seeking better wages and benefits from Detroit’s three automakers

About 13,000 U.S. auto workers have stopped making vehicles and headed for the picket lines. Their leaders have been unable to bridge a giant gap between union demands in contract talks and what Detroit’s three automakers are willing to pay.

apnews.com

 

[Mean_Green]

they are beginning to price themselves so high that the new sales are going to drop and people will keep their rigs longer. Especially 1500 trucks, those are getting out of control.

That 'began' when prices went over $30K.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

When all is said and done, more auto jobs will probably go to Mexico where labor costs are far less…

That is always the end result.

 

[tjs3922]

I think the automakers offer is as good as its gonna get. Old school union logic was the last offer before a strike deadline is the one to grab. But, it takes to too tango as the say.

Strikes get old after about 2 weeks for all sides. My uncle was on strike for months from a paper mill years ago. He was never the same after that. They ruined their credit staying afloat.

For everyones sake I hope they find a happy middle ground for both sides.

 

[gooffeyguy]

UAW workers at the GM plant in Wentzville went on strike here yesterday.

They're demanding 40% raise, 32hr work week, cost of living adjustment, and enhanced profit sharing.

GM offered 20% raise and other benefits

 

[Blackcar]

I think the uaw president is the issue, I’m sure he’s trying to get his pockets filled too and is getting greedy. He’s made enough of a spectacle of himself by his videos throwing proposals in the garbag

I’m sure he’s trying to get his pockets filled too and is getting greedy

How does president of union do that explain?

 

[Mean_Green]

^^^ Quite easily. Unions have a long history of corruption and unions bosses have a long history of self-enrichment.

And that's probably as far as that discussion can go here.

 

[Banks22]

@Blackcar it’s been done before man. You don’t think these guys are trying to fill their pockets too?

 

[TollKeeper]

UAW workers at the GM plant in Wentzville went on strike here yesterday.

They're demanding 40% raise, 32hr work week, cost of living adjustment, and enhanced profit sharing.

GM offered 20% raise and other benefits

Thats the plant I worked at... and the union steward is about worthless. I imagine they have been replaced since then.

What makes it worse is that entire plant is falling down around their ears. But the union wants so much that GM "says" they cant afford to rebuild.