Stabilitrak off

[03GMCYukonXL]

So I swapped my jump seat out with a center console, and I unplugged my seats and remove them and put them back in all without disconnecting the battery. And now my Stabilitrak is off in the morning light is on and I cannot get it to reset and I have tried all the procedures. The vehicle does not shift hard and it isn't affecting it otherwise. This is something that has to be taken to a shop?

 

[mikez71]

If you can check codes, otherwise may have to go to shop.

Usually it's a wheel speed sensor that got unplugged..

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Do you have, or have access to, a quality bi-directional scanner? If not, I recommend that you get yourself a quality bi-directional scanner to add to your tool box. Then, you will be able to read ALL trouble codes, along with a brief explanation/pointer to the source of your issue. You can test many of the truck's electronic functions with the scanner, in order to determine the source of an issue. You will also be able to reset/delete trouble codes, after taking corrective action. You will literally save thousands of dollars in diagnostic and repair costs over the life of your truck, and you will most likely recoup the cost of the scanner within 1 year.

There will definitely be information available that a quality bi-directional scanner will read out to you, if your Stabilitrak warning light is on.

 

[bourgey19]

So I swapped my jump seat out with a center console, and I unplugged my seats and remove them and put them back in all without disconnecting the battery. And now my Stabilitrak is off in the morning light is on and I cannot get it to reset and I have tried all the procedures. The vehicle does not shift hard and it isn't affecting it otherwise. This is something that has to be taken to a shop?

I have the exact same issue. I check sensors, fuses, Changed the throttle position sensor, the center console buttons, and still the same issue. I have run it on a really good professional code reader and nothing comes up as a code. Have you figured out the problem? It turns off the command start and the 4x4 without the stabilitrak. The ABS still work.

 

[Doubeleive]

I have the exact same issue. I check sensors, fuses, Changed the throttle position sensor, the center console buttons, and still the same issue. I have run it on a really good professional code reader and nothing comes up as a code. Have you figured out the problem? It turns off the command start and the 4x4 without the stabilitrak. The ABS still work.

in both your cases if there is a light on there is a code.... no if's/or's about it.
the scanner used must be able to read body codes and you must scan for body codes if it does not automatically pick it up
the code may not say and probably will not say "stabiltrac" it will be something else, that something else is what causes the stabiltrac message
it could be suspension, transmission, engine, misfires, or even something else obscure
could be a lazy abs sensor, that works but not off enough to throw a abs code.

 

[bourgey19]

in both your cases if there is a light on there is a code.... no if's/or's about it.
the scanner used must be able to read body codes and you must scan for body codes if it does not automatically pick it up
the code may not say and probably will not say "stabiltrac" it will be something else, that something else is what causes the stabiltrac message
it could be suspension, transmission, engine, misfires, or even something else obscure
could be a lazy abs sensor, that works but not off enough to throw a abs code.

You'd think so. The light is just the indicator for the Stabilitrak being off, as though the button was pushed to turn it off but no codes otherwise. We went through the transmission search, the engine search, the abs codes, we did tests on wheel speed sensors and they all ran at the same speed. I changed a sensor on the transmission as well as the wheel sensors in the back. The code reader is an encore code reader. It doesn't even say a code for Stabilitrak. It just says off on the dash. I've seen the code where it says service stabilitrak, but it doesn't have that either.

 

[Doubeleive]

your going to have to dig deeper, do a full system scan for all codes/faults
also look at the steering wheel position sensor & yaw rate
check for bad grounds
transfer case
brake switch (detailed) and brake pressure sensor
battery load test
I would even check the stabiltrac switch as well

 

[Fless]

I have the exact same issue. I check sensors, fuses, Changed the throttle position sensor, the center console buttons, and still the same issue. I have run it on a really good professional code reader and nothing comes up as a code. Have you figured out the problem? It turns off the command start and the 4x4 without the stabilitrak. The ABS still work.

Year, make, model? Other vehicle details? It would be helpful to add that to your account signature so it always shows up.

 

[bourgey19]

Year, make, model? Other vehicle details? It would be helpful to add that to your account signature so it always shows up.

It’s a 2013 Yukon xl 1500 slt

 

[bourgey19]

Thanks for the tip on vehicle info. New to the site so always happy for help.

 

[Fless]

The link below has some diagnostic info, but I'm not sure if I selected the correct vehicle, nor if this will help. Could be an EBCM fault.

Less than 3900 kg (8600 lb) GVW — 2013 GMC Yukon XL 2WD V8-5.3L Service Manual | Operation CHARM

Detailed repair manual for the 2013 GMC Yukon XL 2WD V8-5.3L.

charm.li

 

[Doubeleive]

The link below has some diagnostic info, but I'm not sure if I selected the correct vehicle, nor if this will help. Could be an EBCM fault.

Less than 3900 kg (8600 lb) GVW — 2013 GMC Yukon XL 2WD V8-5.3L Service Manual | Operation CHARM

Detailed repair manual for the 2013 GMC Yukon XL 2WD V8-5.3L.

charm.li

typically that would cause a abs light, I bet it's the brake switch or steering

 

[mikez71]

I just unplugged my steering sensor and it will display 'stabilitrak disabled' AND 'traction control disabled'.

I believe if the yaw/inertia sensor near the tunnel under passenger seat is unplugged, the same thing would happen.
(OP mentioned changing seats)

But @bourgey19 mentioned he doesn't have those error messages, just the light.

The diagnostic link @Fless linked mentions commanding the light off with your scantool.
If it does not turn off, to replace the cluster.

 

[Doubeleive]

If your steering wheel is straight (0 degrees) but the Yaw Rate sensor reports that the vehicle is rotating at 10 degrees per second, the computer sees a physical impossibility. To prevent the ABS module from "correcting" a skid that isn't actually happening—which could cause you to veer off the road—the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) will immediately shut down StabiliTrak and trigger the warning light.
the tolerance is 0-3 deg, 5 deg triggers, so if it is 4 deg it's like a abs sensor that works without throwing a abs code but causes abs to engage when almost to a full stop because it see's 1 wheel stopped and 3 still spinning (when really they are all spinning).
same kind of thing can happen with the brake switch (does cruise control work?) or rather did cruise control stop working at the same time.
If there is no Cxxx codes then he's going to have to look at the data feed, something is probably borderline

I just unplugged my steering sensor and it will display 'stabilitrak disabled' AND 'traction control disabled'.

I believe if the yaw/inertia sensor near the tunnel under passenger seat is unplugged, the same thing would happen.
(OP mentioned changing seats)

But @bourgey19 mentioned he doesn't have those error messages, just the light.

The diagnostic link @Fless linked mentions commanding the light off with your scantool.
If it does not turn off, to replace the cluster.

cluster? or stabiltrac switch? I don't see how the cluster would make the determination to disable stabiltrac, unless stabiltrac is really just fine and the cluster is just goofy.

 

[bourgey19]

If your steering wheel is straight (0 degrees) but the Yaw Rate sensor reports that the vehicle is rotating at 10 degrees per second, the computer sees a physical impossibility. To prevent the ABS module from "correcting" a skid that isn't actually happening—which could cause you to veer off the road—the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) will immediately shut down StabiliTrak and trigger the warning light.
the tolerance is 0-3 deg, 5 deg triggers, so if it is 4 deg it's like a abs sensor that works without throwing a abs code but causes abs to engage when almost to a full stop because it see's 1 wheel stopped and 3 still spinning (when really they are all spinning).
same kind of thing can happen with the brake switch (does cruise control work?) or rather did cruise control stop working at the same time.
If there is no Cxxx codes then he's going to have to look at the data feed, something is probably borderline

cluster? or stabiltrac switch? I don't see how the cluster would make the determination to disable stabiltrac, unless stabiltrac is really just fine and the cluster is just goofy.

Cruise control works, everything works except 4x4, stabilitrak, and command start.

 

[Doubeleive]

Cruise control works, everything works except 4x4, stabilitrak, and command start.

Ok, there's you clue's.
1. why is 4X4 not working?
2. why is remote start not working?
one of those is likely your stabiltrac culprit, stabiltrac is not a fault it is a symptom of a fault.
does it say service 4wd?
does stabiltrac turn off at startup or only when you shift to drive?
if you switch the 4wd control knob, what happens with the led indicator?
inop 4wd will cause the stabiltrac error

 

[bourgey19]

If your steering wheel is straight (0 degrees) but the Yaw Rate sensor reports that the vehicle is rotating at 10 degrees per second, the computer sees a physical impossibility. To prevent the ABS module from "correcting" a skid that isn't actually happening—which could cause you to veer off the road—the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) will immediately shut down StabiliTrak and trigger the warning light.
the tolerance is 0-3 deg, 5 deg triggers, so if it is 4 deg it's like a abs sensor that works without throwing a abs code but causes abs to engage when almost to a full stop because it see's 1 wheel stopped and 3 still spinning (when really they are all spinning).
same kind of thing can happen with the brake switch (does cruise control work?) or rather did cruise control stop working at the same time.
If there is no Cxxx codes then he's going to have to look at the data feed, something is probably borderline

cluster? or stabiltrac switch? I don't see how the cluster would make the determination to disable stabiltrac, unless stabiltrac is really just fine and the cluster is just goofy.

I’ll try the steering next and see if that’s a problem. It’s not too bad for cost to replace and could be the issue. Try anything now. Thanks for the help. I’ll keep people informed.

 

[Doubeleive]

I’ll try the steering next and see if that’s a problem. It’s not too bad for cost to replace and could be the issue. Try anything now. Thanks for the help. I’ll keep people informed.

did you see my last message? 4x4 not working is a big one, stabiltrac is a symptom not a cause
and for instance if the 4x4 status is unknown that would probably be a reason for no autostart as well as stabiltrac off

 

[Doubeleive]

I didn't catch it in your first post, should have...

 

[mikez71]

cluster? or stabiltrac switch? I don't see how the cluster would make the determination to disable stabiltrac, unless stabiltrac is really just fine and the cluster is just goofy.

The diagnostic link @Fless mentioned checking both the switches and the cluster.
But @bourgey19 already checked the switches.

BUT, now that I look at that link more, it's for when the indicator lamp is malfunctioning, and may not cover all stabilitrak errors..
(Assuming there should be some code perhaps?)

@bourgey19, I don't think it's the steering or yaw sensor because then you should get the 'stabilitrak disabled' warning..
Since you don't get that warning..

The code reader is an encore code reader. It doesn't even say a code for Stabilitrak. It just says off on the dash. I've seen the code where it says service stabilitrak, but it doesn't have that either.

I don't know if a bad cluster can cause 4WD to stop working or not...
But a code reader saying the light is off when it's actually on...
Truck can run with cluster unplugged, so that's another way to test if it's a cluster issue..

did you see my last message? 4x4 not working is a big one, stabiltrac is a symptom not a cause
and for instance if the 4x4 status is unknown that would probably be a reason for no autostart as well as stabiltrac off

Right Doubelieve, I also seem to remember someone not having remote start due to a bad transfercase control module?
Like the computer doesn't know if you're in high or low or something like that.. But I can't remember if they had codes or stabilitrak light on (don't think so)