New tune that is amazing

[pnap88p]

so i was on one of the corvette fourms looking for a local tuner in my area and stumbled upon corvettes of westchester, and being that there was many good words about him on the corvette forum so i drove up to see mister chuck mosello. we were discussing tunes for my new vette and we were talking and he said well i do tahoes as well, so i said go ahead and make me a believer, we just tuned the car tonight and man is it so much better than the tune i previously received from the other tuner on this site. with this new tune from chuck it really wakes up the 08 tahoe. if you want any info on this feel free to contact me and i will direct you to him.

 

[soulsea]

'Better' is a rather vague and subjective term.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to indicate specifically what makes this tune superior to that of blackbear?

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Oh and, I've never seen such feedback for blackbear: http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106393

No thanks.

 

[pnap88p]

'Better' is a rather vague and subjective term.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to indicate specifically what makes this tune superior to that of blackbear?

---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 PM ----------

Oh and, I've never seen such feedback for blackbear: http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106393

No thanks.

you are correct but i had the other tune for over a year and just after having the new tune and the cow boster for just 1 night it is such a huge difference than what i recieved in my old tune. everything from the shift points and downshifting and complete feeling of the cars drive was a complete difference. to each his own and that is my personal preference. i have tried both and i have a more input than some other that have not seen or tried it.

 

[soulsea]

Here's something to chew on: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36621

Hilarity ensues on page 2.

 

[TacHoe]

hahah wow, I wouldn't trust that tune on a tricycle

 

[stevek]

How is it "better?" Sure BB can adjust your shift points and all that too. I have a "balls to the wall" tune as well as a DD tune.

 

[NautiKev]

With soooooo much negative out there on this guy, he wouldn't touch my truck with a 50 foot pole! I looked and looked for something bad on BB couldn't find a thing, oh and I love my tune!

 

[Donnie Yukonie]

Great on the feedback, however i think im still going with bb as they are a supporting vendor and their rep here is strong

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[Danzigman]

Here is what stands out to me. "This guy has destroyed many engines and trannys with his tuning." NO THANK YOU!

 

[NathanJax]

I wouldn't trust that guy with anything after the comments I've read about him.


I had my 04 Escalade tuned by Justin when he came to town. I would 100% trust blackbear with any vehicle of mine after the great experience I had.

 

[pnap88p]

i had the bb tune, for the past year, along with the volant air intake, corvette servo and exhaust cutout, and flowmaster 40 series, you cant always believe what you read, i didnt plan to get the tune from cow, i didnt even know about it until i got my vette. but stuff breaking is not always to blame on the tuner, why cant the people be at fault. i saw many people that have dealt with him from all over, hawaii texas new mexico, even all the way in china. i have seen way more positive than negative, being that im from westchester i had the chance to see the shop anytime i like to, so take everything as you want on our own. he retuned my tranny comp and just added in the cow booster and its deffinatelly different than whatever bb did, he even showed me the stock tune to bb tune table and it was barely a difference, as well as he was able to show me pinging in the engine from the bb tune, so to end off, im not here to bad moth anybody i just wanted to see if anyone here had heard of cow, and would be interested in the tune as a second option.

 

[JennaBear]

Patrick,

I was going to stay it if this thread, but I do need to point a few things out.

I do wonder what you were shown, as I can see well over 40 changes on your engine computer alone. Did he go through all 40 of those items?

I can also tell you that the "cow booster" impacts throttle pedal to throttle body correlation only. In other words, it feels snapper because you are opening the blade more, for less pedal.

As for pinging, your last log file sent showed a statistically insignificant amount of knock retard. We generally see much more on a stock tune with 87 octane than your completed tune.

Sent from an ice cream sammich.

 

[iwaslowr]

Third time BB supporter here...

 

[stevek]

i had the bb tune, for the past year, along with the volant air intake, corvette servo and exhaust cutout, and flowmaster 40 series, you cant always believe what you read, i didnt plan to get the tune from cow, i didnt even know about it until i got my vette. but stuff breaking is not always to blame on the tuner, why cant the people be at fault. i saw many people that have dealt with him from all over, hawaii texas new mexico, even all the way in china. i have seen way more positive than negative, being that im from westchester i had the chance to see the shop anytime i like to, so take everything as you want on our own. he retuned my tranny comp and just added in the cow booster and its deffinatelly different than whatever bb did, he even showed me the stock tune to bb tune table and it was barely a difference, as well as he was able to show me pinging in the engine from the bb tune, so to end off, im not here to bad moth anybody i just wanted to see if anyone here had heard of cow, and would be interested in the tune as a second option.

Trust me, anyone from Texas who goes out of state to get their corvette worked on, is likely too stupid to own a vette in the first place. There are so many places here in Dallas alone that specialize in them. If you're not here to bad "moth" anybody then why are you calling out BB for "weak" tune tables?

Do you even know how to read a tune table?

I do wonder what you were shown, as I can see well over 40 changes on your engine computer alone. Did he go through all 40 of those items?

I can also tell you that the "cow booster" impacts throttle pedal to throttle body correlation only. In other words, it feels snapper because you are opening the blade more, for less pedal.

As for pinging, your last log file sent showed a statistically insignificant amount of knock retard. We generally see much more on a stock tune with 87 octane than your completed tune.

So there you have it, push the pedal less, get more throttle. Woohoo, I had BB do that on my tune... it's as sensitive as a Maserati I had the luxury of driving.

 

[pnap88p]

yes are correct, i am not trying ot bad mouth them, just that i happened to be there to discuss 1 car and he wanted to check out the car i drove up in. he never said a bad word about bb, but he did show me the pinging in the engine all the way at negative 10% and the cow booster, is his own proprietary software that he made on his own, anybody can goto any tuner for their needs, i was only making it aware to the rest that they can have a second option. i do realize this is a sensitive topic to talk about but every persons opinion is their own. and i have stated mine. to finish, chuck never said anything bad about bb, we just felt there was room for some improvements.

 

[pnap88p]

we just finished the redo job, and have eliminated all pinging, and overall everything feels very good, smooth when being gentle with the throttle and very snappy when you want it to be, i do not know if this is because of the in car tuning and wideband sensor usage, all i do know is that to me it feels much better.

 

[cjlaw73]

Hey guys, fairly new Tahoe owner hear. What are you guys referring to by a "BB" tune? I am going to be talking to East Coast Supercharging in Cream Ridge, NJ about my Tahoe. The clunkiness and the sticking downshifts on the 6-spd are driving me crazy. They have done all of the work on my Vettes and they are topnotch. Made a real improvement on my buddy's Silverado.

 

[THE YETI]

BB is Blackbear performance. They usually tune 90% of the GM trucks on these forums. Very reputable.

 

[cjlaw73]

BB is Blackbear performance. They usually tune 90% of the GM trucks on these forums. Very reputable.

Thanks! I'll probably start with ECS since they are local to me.

 

[Wakinvol]

Justin was TOP NOTCH when he did mine in Nashville. I am going to have autocal in the near future. I want a "balls to the wall" tune to...to go along with my DD tune.