Need some input to ease my worries on a 2008 Tahoe z71

[Justsomeolddude]

Today my sister needed the oil changed in her 08 Tahoe so i thought i would help her out.
I had a bear of a time getting off the old filter finally having to use a pipe wrench and pretty much destroyed it but i got it loose. However when putting on the new filter i hand tightened it as much as i could.. i really could not get a good grip on it because it is recessed into the oil pan a bit and icould only half grab it on one side.
i worried about it , i really could not tighten it as much as i normally do on my vehicle.

Ive never changed a filter that was so recessed like it was.
Do you think it will be OK? do i need to go back with a band wrench and tighten it more?

 

[Bill 1960]

If you didn’t get it the 3/4 turn past gasket contact like it says on the filter, then yes. Hand tight is not a reliable method as everyone is different in hand strength.

 

[OR VietVet]

Welcome to the forum from Oregon.

I hope you applied a thin film of old oil or even new oil to the seal before you spun that filter on there. I always get 1 full turn after seal/gasket contact. If I can do it all by hand, great. If not, I use an oil filter wrench or cup. The cup is a time saver and is great for getting the filter off too.

They look like this, if you have not seen before. There are many designs of them though.

https://www.google.com/search?q=oil...xCTQIHfWXBPsQ9QF6BAgMEAE#imgrc=moZ_pob4WuI4OM

 

[Justsomeolddude]

I want to know which engineer thought this was a good design.

 

[OR VietVet]

If someone told you who he is and gave you a name, would you kick him for me too?

 

[iamdub]

Get an oil filter wrench or an oil filter socket like what Ron linked to, or get a K&N filter next time. K&Ns have a 1" nut welded to the bottom so you can turn it with a wrench or socket.

 

[OR VietVet]

That space that the filter is in to looks to be cramped for clearance of a filter cup. There are cups that have a thin wall so be aware of that if you search for a filter cup for it.

 

[01FormulaTA]

Ive run into this before and have also destroyed filters removing them, whoever changed the oil previously over-tightened the filter...IMO there's nothing wrong with the design and its easily accessible with a band style wrench as you mentioned, it wouldnt hurt to go back and get a few more turns but dont do what the last guy did, it doesnt take much to tighten it

 

[Jason in DLH]

Today my sister needed the oil changed in her 08 Tahoe so i thought i would help her out.
I had a bear of a time getting off the old filter finally having to use a pipe wrench and pretty much destroyed it but i got it loose. However when putting on the new filter i hand tightened it as much as i could.. i really could not get a good grip on it because it is recessed into the oil pan a bit and icould only half grab it on one side.
i worried about it , i really could not tighten it as much as i normally do on my vehicle.

Ive never changed a filter that was so recessed like it was.
Do you think it will be OK? do i need to go back with a band wrench and tighten it more?

Once I only hand tightened one to not quite 3/4 of a turn on a Jeep and it loosened up quite quickly (about a week or two) and left a little present for me on the garage floor.

 

[Jason in DLH]

Get an oil filter wrench or an oil filter socket like what Ron linked to, or get a K&N filter next time. K&Ns have a 1" nut welded to the bottom so you can turn it with a wrench or socket.

I got a cheap filter socket once, but it didn’t fit, so I opted to go with a band style. Does this K&N socket fit that tight space? Would be nice to use this as I’m always fumbling around with that band clamp.

In other words...I get outsmarted every time by the band clamp.

 

[OR VietVet]

I got a cheap filter socket once, but it didn’t fit, so I opted to go with a band style. Does this K&N socket fit that tight space? Would be nice to use this as I’m always fumbling around with that band clamp.

In other words...I get outsmarted every time by the band clamp.

And here I thought you said "outsmarted by band camp" all this time.

 

[Jason in DLH]

And here I thought you said "outsmarted by band camp" all this time.

Well...yes..that too.

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Welcome to the Forum from NH.

Lots of knowledgeable folks here who freely share their knowledge, experiences, and perspectives. Knowledge is power.

I hope that you will become a participating member in the Forum's discussions.

As you can see, you've already received lots of good suggestions from the folks here in this Forum.

 

[iamdub]

I got a cheap filter socket once, but it didn’t fit, so I opted to go with a band style. Does this K&N socket fit that tight space? Would be nice to use this as I’m always fumbling around with that band clamp.

In other words...I get outsmarted every time by the band clamp.

It's not a socket, its a stamped nut welded to the oil filter as part of its design. You just use a standard 1" socket on a ratchet or a 1" wrench (preferably a box end) to snug it up or crack it loose.

 

[EddieC]

I can get both a band wrench and socket type on mine without problems. Something I have noticed though is that there does not seem to be a standard for outside diameter and my socket type does not properly fit all manufacturer's filters. Pretty stupid lack of standard.

I also have a combo band/socket style that is similar to a slinky and it tightens up as it's turned with a ratchet wrench.

 

[wsteele]

I haven't ever had a problem tightening the filter to the 3/4 turn past gasket contact on my Yukon with just my finger tips, inching it around as I regrip a number of times. @PNW VietVet's tip of wetting the gasket surface of the new filter with a film of oil (old or new) is very important.

 

[steve45]

I use a nylon strap wrench from K-D Tools. I put filters on a little bit tighter than recommended, but since they aren't safety wired, I don't trust them. Airplanes use similar filters, but they have a torque spec and holes for safety wire. The strap wrench will easily remove & install the filter on the Tahoe oil pan, and it fits virtually all filters.

 

[mang213]

I have a band type filter wrench and have never had issues with LS equipped trucks. But if you want a real tip for this "problem " then just use the oil filters for the Ford 3.5 liter ecoboost motors in the F150s and full size Transit vans. Same threads on the filter as an LS filter, but the Ecoboost filter is about inch longer. Gives more filter to grab on to and has more filtering capacity. I've been doing this for at least 6 or 7 yrs now and works great. The filter I generally use is the Purolator Boss PB22500

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