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Hello all!

I just bought a 2010 Escalade (w/170K miles). It's a Florida truck. The first owner had it for six years and the lady I bought it from has had it for the past ten. It has been well maintained, but I'd love to hear everyone's thought on it. What should I be aware of? Does anyone have a list of the "first x number of things I would do and/or check"? This is my first GMT900 and my first 6.2L, so I could use some guidance. What are the recommendations regarding AFM? Should I preemptively build the tranny/rear end/suspension/etc?

I'd love to hear all of the things that owners "would've done if they knew then what they know know".

Thanks in advance!
 

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Any maintenance records?
I would start with changing all fluids including transmission filter and fluid.
Maybe a tune up depending on how it is running.
How does it drive? Steering tight? Check the brakes and see how the pads look. Don't forget the E brake.
Seems like the list never ends.
 

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99.9% disable AFM.

Change all fluids. Sparkplugs and wires if original.

Cooling system. Heater T's, thermostat, waterpump, hoses, radiator.
Radiator won't last much longer and the heater T's are a definite weak spot.

Motor mounts, rev in gear with brake on, and look for movement. Or if you already have a clunk..

The list of things will grow...
 

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Check out the suspension and electronic struts and shocks and the air compressor to see what condition they are in.

When one buys a vehicle like this at this age, it's good to plan for $3-5K in repairs and maintenance to get it squared away. If it rides great and doesn't need anything, all the better.
 
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Check out the suspension and electronic struts and shocks and the air compressor to see what condition they are in.

When one buys a vehicle like this at this age, it's good to plan for $3-5K in repairs and maintenance to get it squared away. If it rides great and doesn't need anything, all the better.
Thanks. That's exactly what I'm planning on.
 

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I bought my 2013 a little over a year ago with 197k and the 6.2

Here's my recommendations:
- At this mileage, tune out AFM. You can either send off your ECM, use/borrow an HP tuner or pay somebody, or get it tuned out somewhere. I had a local guy I found on facebook do it for me. I also ran a OB2 plug in for awhile with a lot of good luck. It isn’t a bad idea to do a full engine/trans tune and save your torque converter as well.
- Change your oil at or under 5k
- Maybe lube up the auto running boards if they are installed? Mine were frozen/rusted open and I just took them off.
- Everything else of what people said. 2x on the engine mounts.
- Heater Ts as mentioned - they make metal replacements, but the plastic ones are good too (IMO). They will get brittle and crack and then people will run out of coolant and overheat because of them. A good preventative maintenance item.

I got some questions for you that can help point me/us in the next steps as far as what things you may have to plan for in the future:
- What is your oil pressure on a cold start, when cruising, and when at idle when hot?
- Do you have plans to do a DOD delete at any point?
- How many miles are you driving per year?

Welcome to the GMT900 club lol. Drop some pics in here!! Also hello from Nashville. I grew up in Cincy and drive back there often. Dare I ask what high school you went to?? lol
 
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At a buck-70, you're still in the sweet spot if the vehicle had decent maintenance up to that point. A few $$ will make it last much longer.

Being that it's rust free is a huge benefit as a starting point. If you live in a salt use state, I highly recommend having a fluid film or woolwax rust prevention done while it's still pristine - done properly, this thing will look new underneath for another 10 years. I've done that on all my 2007 and newer yukons and have had great luck.

Don't skimp on parts - go GM OEM whenever possible, the outcome and longevity will be a good piece of mind.
 

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I'm restating a lot of the above, but I'm also adding some perspective for you, i.e. why you should care/act, on many of these recommendations.

As all folks have recommended, change ALL fluids, as you really don't know for sure just how old they are, or if they were the correct ones to begin with. Thoroughly visually and by feel analyze the fluids, as you can often see potential signs of future issues by just looking at, smelling, and finger-squeeze touching the fluid and any particles that may have come out with the fluid. Lots of members here periodically send a used oil sample to Blackstone Labs for analysis, as the results can tell you a lot about the health of your motor.

IMO, @B-train gave your one of the best pieces of advice off the top. To the extent possible, use ONLY GM Genuine parts. Aftermarket parts, particularly if they have any electronic components within them, often do not play well with these GM trucks and their CanBus electronic communication system. Your truck is at the age where GM has already started discontinuing replacement parts, so sometimes, you will be forced to go aftermarket. Check with us first to see what Members' experiences are with specific aftermarket brands of parts, when you hit that replacement situation, so that you don't have to make the same replacement twice.

AFM Delete - If nothing else, get the AFM tuned out of your control systems. The best option would be to also get the mechanical delete of AFM engine components, but that will run you $5k+, so the budget needs to be assessed. The AFM hardware often fails sooner than non-AFM hardware, and a failure of this kind will definitely take out your cam, and potentially incur other catastrophic motor killing damage.

As @swathdiver recommended, check out your Z95 Magneride suspension system. IMO, this is an elite suspension system, but like all other maintenance parts, they eventually fail, generally around 80k - 100k miles. At your mileage, the struts/shocks in this system should have been replaced, but from what I've often seen in the market for these trucks, when sold used, these components have already failed, but have not been replaced. When you start your truck, after it sits overnight, listen on the outside near the driver's side rear wheel. Within 5 - 10 seconds of startup, you should hear the air compressor fire up to 4 - 8 seconds. If you do not hear the compressor fire up, chances are that your Z95 system is not currently fully operational.

As @thefrey recommended, check/monitor your oil pressure at the status marks that he recommended. Good oil and oil pressure are the life blood of these 6.2 motors, so there must be clean oil at a solid oil pressure, to ensure that the motor lasts for 200k+ miles. The O-ring on the oil pump pickup tube is a common failure point on these motors, so if you see a hot idle oil pressure below 20 psi, there is a good chance that your O-ring is failing, and needs to be replaced.

As @mikez71 recommended, check out the motor mounts, as your truck has liquid filled bushings within the motor mounts, and these fail and are a maintenance item. The liquid was meant to further reduce engine vibration in the main cabin, but IMO, there is no appreciable difference in reduced motor-related cabin vibration with these OEM motor mounts. If you need to replace them, I recommend that you replace them with Hummer H3 motor mounts, and you will never need to replace them again.

As @thefrey recommended, replace the heater hose Tees, located at the firewall on the passenger side of the engine bay. These plastic Tees WILL rupture, and it will happen at the most inconvenient time, and dump most of your coolant out within 30 - 60 seconds or less. While you are making that changeout, replace ALL of your radiator and heater/coolant hoses in the engine bay. Most likely, they are original (the manufacturing date is typically stamped on them), and they definitely deteriorate over time from both the engine bay heat and the corrosiveness of the liquid that they are carrying. I know, as it happened to me. If you personally change out the tees, be sure to wear gloves, as the firewall insulation is quite aggressive, and your hands will itch for days.

Both @SpareParts and @thefrey recommended getting a tune on your motor and transmission. GM tunes are OK, but they are like purchasing all season tires. They are OK for most situations, but not really very good or great for any one situation. The GM transmission tune gives a smoother transition through the gears, but definitely at the expense of the longevity of the transmission. A tune of both the motor and transmission, say from @BlackBearPerf (BlackBear Performance, which is a Sponsor and trusted vendor that a lot of Members use), will definitely wake up the motor and add longevity to the life of your transmission. At ~$700, you may say that this is definitely discretionary, so it really depends on how you want your truck to perform while driving it.

Be aware that the GM torque converter is a weak point in these trucks, and when it grenades, it will take out your transmission as well. Look for any particles when changing out your transmission fluid, as this could be an early sign of an impending torque converter failure.

Do you have, or have access to, a quality bi-directional scanner? If not, I recommend that you get yourself a quality bi-directional scanner (~$500) to add to your tool box. Then, you will be able to read ALL trouble codes, along with a brief explanation/pointer to the source of your issue. You can test many of the truck's electronic functions with the scanner, in order to determine the source of an issue. You will also be able to reset/delete trouble codes, after taking corrective action. You will literally save thousands of dollars in diagnostic and repair costs over the life of your truck, and you will most likely recoup the cost of the scanner within 1 year.

These are wonderful trucks, and if you are good to them, they will be good to you.
 
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I bought my 2013 a little over a year ago with 197k and the 6.2

Here's my recommendations:
- At this mileage, tune out AFM. You can either send off your ECM, use/borrow an HP tuner or pay somebody, or get it tuned out somewhere. I had a local guy I found on facebook do it for me. I also ran a OB2 plug in for awhile with a lot of good luck. It isn’t a bad idea to do a full engine/trans tune and save your torque converter as well.
- Change your oil at or under 5k
- Maybe lube up the auto running boards if they are installed? Mine were frozen/rusted open and I just took them off.
- Everything else of what people said. 2x on the engine mounts.
- Heater Ts as mentioned - they make metal replacements, but the plastic ones are good too (IMO). They will get brittle and crack and then people will run out of coolant and overheat because of them. A good preventative maintenance item.

I got some questions for you that can help point me/us in the next steps as far as what things you may have to plan for in the future:
- What is your oil pressure on a cold start, when cruising, and when at idle when hot?
- Do you have plans to do a DOD delete at any point?
- How many miles are you driving per year?

Welcome to the GMT900 club lol. Drop some pics in here!! Also hello from Nashville. I grew up in Cincy and drive back there often. Dare I ask what high school you went to?? lol

At a buck-70, you're still in the sweet spot if the vehicle had decent maintenance up to that point. A few $$ will make it last much longer.

Being that it's rust free is a huge benefit as a starting point. If you live in a salt use state, I highly recommend having a fluid film or woolwax rust prevention done while it's still pristine - done properly, this thing will look new underneath for another 10 years. I've done that on all my 2007 and newer yukons and have had great luck.

Don't skimp on parts - go GM OEM whenever possible, the outcome and longevity will be a good piece of mind.

I'm restating a lot of the above, but I'm also adding some perspective for you, i.e. why you should care/act, on many of these recommendations.

As all folks have recommended, change ALL fluids, as you really don't know for sure just how old they are, or if they were the correct ones to begin with. Thoroughly visually and by feel analyze the fluids, as you can often see potential signs of future issues by just looking at, smelling, and finger-squeeze toughing the fluid and any particles that may have come out with the fluid. Lots of members here periodically send a used oil sample to Blackstone Labs for analysis, as the results can tell you a lot about the health of your motor.

IMO, @B-train gave your one of the best pieces of advice off the top. To the extent possible, use ONLY GM Genuine parts. Aftermarket parts, particularly if they have any electronic components within them, often do not play well with these GM trucks and their CanBus electronic communication system. Your truck is at the age where GM has already started discontinuing replacement parts, so sometimes, you will be forced to go aftermarket. Check with us first to see what Members' experiences are with specific aftermarket brands of parts, when you hit that replacement situation, so that you don't have to make the same replacement twice.

AFM Delete - If nothing else, get the AFM tuned out of your control systems. The best option would be to also get the mechanical delete of AFM engine components, but that will run you $5k+, so the budget needs to be assessed. The AFM hardware often fails sooner than non-AFM hardware, and a failure of this kind will definitely take out your cam, and potentially incur other catastrophic motor killing damage.

As @swathdiver recommended, check out your Z95 Magneride suspension system. IMO, this is an elite suspension system, but like all other maintenance parts, they eventually fail, generally around 80k - 100k miles. At your mileage, the struts/shocks in this system should have been replaced, but from what I've seen in the market for these trucks, when sold used, these components have already failed, but have not been replaced. When you start your truck, after it sits overnight, listen on the outside near the driver's side rear wheel. Within 5 - 10 seconds of startup, you should hear the air compressor fire up to 4 - 8 seconds. If you do not hear the compressor fire up, chances are that your Z95 system is not currently fully operational.

As @thefrey recommended, check/monitor your oil pressure at the status marks that he recommended. Good oil and oil pressure are the life blood of these 6.2 motors, so there must be clean oil at a solid oil pressure, to ensure that the motor lasts for 200k+ miles. The O-ring on the oil pump pickup tube is a common failure point on these motors, so if you see a hot idle oil pressure below 20 psi, there is a good chance that your O-ring is failing, and needs to be replaced.

As @mikez71 recommended, check out the motor mounts, as your truck has liquid filled bushings within the motor mounts, and these fail and are a maintenance item. The liquid was meant to further reduce engine vibration in the main cabin, but IMO, there is no appreciable difference in reduced motor-related cabin vibration with these OEM motor mounts. If you need to replace them, I recommend that you replace them with H3 motor mounts, and you will never need to replace them again.

As @thefrey recommended, replace the heater hose Tees, located at the firewall on the passenger sire of the engine bay. These plastic Tees WILL rupture, and it will happen at the most inconvenient time, and dump most of your coolant out within 30 - 60 seconds or less. While you are making that changeout, replace ALL of your radiator and heater/coolant hoses in the engine bay. Most likely, they are original (the manufacturing date is typically stamped on them), and they definitely deteriorate over time from both the engine bay heat and the corrosiveness of the liquid that they are carrying. I know, as it happened to me. If you personally change out the tees, be sure to wear gloves, as the firewall insulation is quite aggressive, and your hands will itch for days.

Both @SpareParts and @thefrey recommended getting a tune on your motor and transmission. GM tunes are OK, but they are like purchasing all season tires. They are OK for most situations, but not really very good or great for any one situation. The GM transmission tune gives a smoother transition through the gears, but definitely at the expense of the longevity of the transmission. A tune of both the motor and transmission, say from @BlackBearPerf (BlackBear Performance, which a lot of Members use), will definitely wake up the motor and add longevity to the life of your transmission. At ~$700, you may say that this is definitely discretionary, so it really depends on how you want your truck to perform while driving it.

Be aware that the GM torque converter is a weak point in these trucks, and when it grenades, it will take out your transmission as well. Look for any particles when changing out your transmission fluid, as this could be an early sign of an impending torque converter failure.

Do you have, or have access to, a quality bi-directional scanner? If not, I recommend that you get yourself a quality bi-directional scanner (~$500) to add to your tool box. Then, you will be able to read ALL trouble codes, along with a brief explanation/pointer to the source of your issue. You can test many of the truck's electronic functions with the scanner, in order to determine the source of an issue. You will also be able to reset/delete trouble codes, after taking corrective action. You will literally save thousands of dollars in diagnostic and repair costs over the life of your truck, and you will most likely recoup the cost of the scanner within 1 year.

These are wonderful trucks, and if you are good to them, they will be good to you.
This is the kind of advice I was hoping to get - and this is why I've loved this forum for over a decade. Thank you guys so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to do this for me.
 

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Your engine and transmission are the Achilles heel of the AWD L94 6.2L platform.

As far as the motor goes removing the AFM is key. Do it in one shot with a set of trick flow heads and headers. Yes you will pick up power, but do it for better flow, milage and bolt on simplicity. You’ll save a ton on labor too.

The trans should have its maint planned around either a fluid & filter change or major service / replacement, where it’s removed so the rear main seal can be replaced and exh mani studs repaired / replaced.
 

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Congrats!

With 170K miles, just start with basics: fluids, brakes, suspension, and engine check. Keep an eye on the 6.2L AFM lifters and oil passages — those can give trouble.

Also, check all vehicle recalls for your year and make sure they’re done (lots of owners miss that).

No need to rebuild tranny/rear end unless there’s an issue. Fresh fluids and a suspension check go a long way. Basically, do a full maintenance check ASAP and you’ll save headaches later.
 
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