I joined the 21 master class

[Blueinterceptor]

I picked up my 21 Tahoe premier which I ordered in September of last year and got an allotment for in November and was finally built in February after a three week delay from the initial build date in January.

she has the 22” Texas edition wheels
Enhanced display
No max trailering but it was ordered
Black bow ties

Added were the shield kit. 2 of the three pieces
Mobil 1 oil from the start. @100 miles
Michelin defender Ltx ms tires
Weather tech rear mat behind the 2 nd row seats

she drives very nicely

 

[Brett776]

Congrats, they really have done a fantastic job on the new design. Our RST has been a great road trip vehicle. I was surprised I’d like 22s but they fit well on these trucks.

 

[tom3]

Can you tell, does it have the cylinder deactivation deal working? Drop down to four cylinders with light loading.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Can you tell, does it have the cylinder deactivation deal working? Drop down to four cylinders with light loading.

I can’t tell. I’ll see if there’s a fuel economy info display. What I can tell is the auto start thing works too well. And that seat belt reminder is pushy. Yuk.

 

[tom3]

Our '19 shows it down in the corner of the display for mpg and averages.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Our '19 shows it down in the corner of the display for mpg and averages.

Yes. It does but I have to check on the 21

 

[JR09country]

The '21s will not have an icon showing cylinder deactivation. The new generation can deactivate more or less than 4 cylinders depending on programing scenarios and the engineers decided not to include an icon because of this.

From my experience I can not tell when it is happening and this comes with having two separate vehicles with the new cylinder deactivation.

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[cdgtahoe]

I picked my 21 Tahoe premier which I ordered in September of last year and got a allotment for in November and was finally built in February after a three week delay from the initial build date in January.

she has the 22” Texas edition wheels
Enhanced display
No max trailering but it was ordered
Black bow ties

Added were the shield kit. 2 of the three pieces
Mobil 1 oil from the start. 100 miles
Michelin defender Ltx ms tires
Weather tech rear mat behind the 2 nd row seats

she drives very nicely

Did you notice a big change with Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires? Thanks for letting me know.

 

[Gibby13]

Did you notice a big change with Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires? Thanks for letting me know.

We ran the Michelins on our '11 Escalade and '15 Suburban and loved them, even at around $1,500/set and we got 60-70k miles per set.

However, it is my understanding for '21 GM worked with the tire manufacturer on the compound for improved traction including pretty impressive stopping distances.

I would say I think these will give the Defenders a run for their money, check back with me in 50k to see how they have held up.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Did you notice a big change with Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires? Thanks for letting me know.

The short answer is yes. They appear quieter and hold the road a little better.
This is the first set of 22” wheels/ tires I’ve ever had. I wasn’t displeased with the Goodrich tire but I read some negative reviews on tire rack and here. 30k miles on a 300$ tire did not make me happy. A dealership bought the alenzas for 750$. And charged me 289ea for the Michelin’s. Couple that with some gm rebates and reward points and the 4 tires mounted road force balanced and installed cost me 370$
The Michelin’s I’ve had in the past. They are quiet. They hold the road well. They will last 70k miles if you do your part. I’ve driven in 24” of snow without getting stuck. I’ve never experienced a flat. I flat out trust the tire. I’ve replaced brand new tires on several Chevy Tahoe’s and suburbans with these tires.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

We ran the Michelins on our '11 Escalade and '15 Suburban and loved them, even at around $1,500/set and we got 60-70k miles per set.

However, it is my understanding for '21 GM worked with the tire manufacturer on the compound for improved traction including pretty impressive stopping distances.

I would say I think these will give the Defenders a run for their money, check back with me in 50k to see how they have held up.

I tried to gather information about the tire. The 111h wasn’t listed on bf goodrich’s website. Even though the alenzas are original equipment tires on Chevy pick ups before the Tahoe’s there are not enough reviews to categorize the tire on tire rack. But almost every review was negative.

 

[Stbentoak]

OEM's sign huge supply contracts for tires and believe me their choice is all about the least expensive tire that will get the unit thru about 20K miles....
I've never had an OEM tire that has "Impressed" me enough to want to replace it with the same !

 

[Quark]

I tried to gather information about the tire. The 111h wasn’t listed on bf goodrich’s website. Even though the alenzas are original equipment tires on Chevy pick ups before the Tahoe’s there are not enough reviews to categorize the tire on tire rack. But almost every review was negative.

The Alenza came standard on the 2012 Tahoe and I put 35,000 miles on the original set. After 8 years they were starting to ride a bit rough because of the rubber hardening but they still had plenty of tread. I liked them so well I replaced them with the exact same tire this new set rides even smoother and quieter. I am not sure how they could be any better they've never broken traction barrelling around traffic up through mountains and they go through snow. Plus I got them for $129 each after the Bridgestone promotional Visa. My one qualm is they are pressure sensitive, when temperatures rise and pressure too they will provide a bit of vibration and harsh ride. Keep them at 32-33 PSI cold and not over 35 PSI warm and they are good to go. Other than that it is an excellent tire that looks good and is a real value, internet lore aside, IMO.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

The Alenza came standard on the 2012 Tahoe and I put 35,000 miles on the original set. After 8 years they were starting to ride a bit rough because of the rubber hardening but they still had plenty of tread. I liked them so well I replaced them with the exact same tire this new set rides even smoother and quieter. I am not sure how they could be any better they've never broken traction barrelling around traffic up through mountains and they go through snow. Plus I got them for $129 each after the Bridgestone promotional Visa. My one qualm is they are pressure sensitive, when temperatures rise and pressure too they will provide a bit of vibration and harsh ride. Keep them at 32-33 PSI cold and not over 35 PSI warm and they are good to go. Other than that it is an excellent tire that looks good and is a real value, internet lore aside, IMO.

You are not comparing apples to apples here. The alenzas of old are not the current alenzas aos offered on the 21 Tahoe. Different tread and construction. The alenzas of which you speak are not even offered in the 275/50/22 size used by the current Tahoe.
Further the alenza aos 111h are a 310$ tire currently used on the 21 Tahoe. And they are the most expensive tire listed on tire rack in this size.

 

[Quark]

You are not comparing apples to apples here. The alenzas of old are not the current alenzas aos offered on the 21 Tahoe. Different tread and construction. The alenzas of which you speak are not even offered in the 275/50/22 size used by the current Tahoe.
Further the alenza aos 111h are a 310$ tire currently used on the 21 Tahoe. And they are the most expensive tire listed on tire rack in this size.

There is an Alenza and an Alenza Plus, the one I speak of is the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza and they look exactly the same and ride a little better than the OEMs they replaced. The reason I mentioned them is I have a hard time believing the negative things said about them, all contrary to my experience driving on them for over nine years. These covid prices have to be factored when pricing anything today.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

There is an Alenza and an Alenza Plus, the one I speak of is the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza and they look exactly the same and ride a little better than the OEMs they replaced. The reason I mentioned them is I have a hard time believing the negative things said about them, all contrary to my experience driving on them for over nine years. These covid prices have to be factored when pricing anything today.

Tire size 275/50/22. Go to tire rack.com and look at the tires. There are 9 tires offered in this size. And one of them the Michelin’s ltx premier has been discontinued.
You can even look at the tread design. Compare it to the alenza plus in size that was on your 2012 Tahoe. It’s not the same tire in any way. I’ve had 20 different Tahoe’s and suburbans since 1995. I should get a fleet discount from Chevrolet and Michelin. Lol

I don’t think COVID pricing is that big of a deal. I think the 22 inch Michelin’s I bought today are about 30$ more a tire than the 20 inch tire I bought 2 years ago

 

[Quark]

I am not the one who brought up Alenza I'm only telling those who might care that contrary to what they hear on the internet they are good tires. And this is based on the cheaper non-plus model so I would imagine the more expensive plus would be even more bestest. As far as being the same tire, the ones I purchased are almost identical to the original. If you didn't know what to look for you couldn't tell them apart... and they are still available. So whatever you thought you read in my post I can't imagine. If you have a particular tire to compare a link might be helpful and we'll go from there.

As far as pricing just last fall I was finding all kind of deals and price matching. I'm looking for a pair of tires for my mothers car and I'm not finding the deals that were easily found last fall. Your experience might be different, who knows.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

The discussion in this thread is about my purchase and the mods I made to her, including the tires. One participant asked if the Michelin’s made that much of a difference. I replied yes, why they did and an additional motivating factor about why I traded them in. I expressed my reasoning for trading in an oem tire that current users are saying they are getting 30k miles on them. You brought up the alenzas you had on your 2012 Tahoe, that you drove for 8 years. The tires you bring up are not even offered in the size needed for the 22” wheel on the 21 Tahoe. This section of the site is for 2021 Tahoe’s Yukon’s etc.

 

[Quark]

My apologies for any misunderstandings and congratulations on your purchase.

Was the OEM tire a Goodrich or an Alenza tire? I see you have the premier and if I order that is the trim I will have so it is of interest.

 

[Gibby13]

Here is the article about the stopping distances of the '21's and it does mention tweaks to the tires a couple times - https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a35048882/tahoe-yukon-escalade-braking-performance/

I don't know, but I find this impressive

The best of the bunch, a 2021 Suburban High Country, only needed 166 feet of runway to do the job. That's better than all kinds of smaller, nimbler cars, including a Mazda 3 we recently tested, and it's only six feet off the mark set by an Audi RS6 Avant.