I just put a leveling kit on my ‘04 4wd Suburban 1500 (torsion keys in the front, spring spacers in the back, new extended shocks all around, and wheel spacers all around for my eventual new wheels and 33s). When I’m on the throttle, my front wheels toe in a lot under power. I can stick my head out the window, step on the gas, and literally watch the wheel toe in 3 inches.
First, what I will say is that I understand the dynamics of suspension being that when you step on the throttle and the front end lifts up and the suspension droops, there are two things happening: the wheels will experience negative camber and they will toe in. The opposite being true of compression: positive camber and toe out. These effects are compounded by any lift, wheel spacers, larger wheels, etc, running on OE suspension.
While I do think the lift is exacerbating this problem, I also believe the problem likely existed before, and it’s just now become very obvious due to the added height. I noticed increased wear in the front tires, but never considered why until I started wrenching on the suspension now. How much of a problem it is, is not surprisingly linked to how much height I put in or take out. Fresh after installing the new keys and new shocks, the height was way past intended at +4.5 inches which made the truck almost undriveable. (I know how crazy stupid that height is, so let’s not focus on that. I only offer it as point of reference.) But even when I adjusted it to a pretty modest +2 inches (which is basically level), if I’m going uphill and step on it, the wheels toe in, fight for direction, and the steering skips.
It just seems crazy to me that any leveling kit at such a modest setting would experience any significant difference, let alone such a drastically noticeable one such as this.
I currently have it at +3 inches (my desired height) and I’ve toed the wheels out a lil bit to compensate so I can drive to work. It feels fine if I’m easy on it, but I know it’s gonna chew through the tires, so I don’t want to mount my fresh wheels and 33s until I can resolve this issue. I know those will add to the problem, and there’s no point in destroying perfectly good tires.
First, what I will say is that I understand the dynamics of suspension being that when you step on the throttle and the front end lifts up and the suspension droops, there are two things happening: the wheels will experience negative camber and they will toe in. The opposite being true of compression: positive camber and toe out. These effects are compounded by any lift, wheel spacers, larger wheels, etc, running on OE suspension.
While I do think the lift is exacerbating this problem, I also believe the problem likely existed before, and it’s just now become very obvious due to the added height. I noticed increased wear in the front tires, but never considered why until I started wrenching on the suspension now. How much of a problem it is, is not surprisingly linked to how much height I put in or take out. Fresh after installing the new keys and new shocks, the height was way past intended at +4.5 inches which made the truck almost undriveable. (I know how crazy stupid that height is, so let’s not focus on that. I only offer it as point of reference.) But even when I adjusted it to a pretty modest +2 inches (which is basically level), if I’m going uphill and step on it, the wheels toe in, fight for direction, and the steering skips.
It just seems crazy to me that any leveling kit at such a modest setting would experience any significant difference, let alone such a drastically noticeable one such as this.
I currently have it at +3 inches (my desired height) and I’ve toed the wheels out a lil bit to compensate so I can drive to work. It feels fine if I’m easy on it, but I know it’s gonna chew through the tires, so I don’t want to mount my fresh wheels and 33s until I can resolve this issue. I know those will add to the problem, and there’s no point in destroying perfectly good tires.