Feedback | Doing business with Blackbear performance

[yates ™]

I didnt know they only do business over email until AFTER I PAID.... Hence the reason for this post. Perhaps this will help other folks who appreciate good customer service.

According to the email correspondence, assuming that the information JennaBear provided is correct, you were told on Sept. 26th, and again on Sept. 30th, you paid on Dec. 22nd.

I am all for customer reviews but you are upset about something you knew within 2 days of contacting them.

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I didnt know they only do business over email until AFTER I PAID.... Hence the reason for this post. Perhaps this will help other folks who appreciate good customer service and a company that returns voicemail from their customers.

Response to edit: It is not feasible for most smaller companies to answer the phones, thus why most have emails, it is full time jobs to answer the phones. A company needs to find ways to provide low cost products/services and still make a profit, Black Bear chooses to not have a full time phone tech. I am not sure why you chose them if you believe phone contact is that important when they told you that they only provide contact over email.

 

[Goodinblack]

This type of thread has come up once before.

However, seeing that BBP (Black Bear Performance) not to be confused with (BPP) Phil LOL...... is answering emails regularly and also tending to this thread..... I say they are good in my book.

Running a business AND attending calls is quite difficult. However, since this is a issue, maybe BBP may look into having at least a Phone# that people may be able to leave messages. Some old school people still like having a actual phone contact, even though emails typically get faster response.

JMHO

 

[TxDrewski]

This type of thread has come up once before.

However, seeing that BBP (Black Bear Performance) not to be confused with (BPP) Phil...... is answering emails regularly and also tending to this thread..... I say they are good in my book.

Running a business AND attending calls is quite difficult. However, since this is a issue, maybe BBP may look into having at least a Phone# that people may be able to leave messages. Some old school people still like having a actual phone contact, even though emails typically get faster response.

JMHO

EXACTLY
Was waiting for you to post, knew it would be straight up logic!
I'm one of those old school people that like a phone #. While not a deal breaker, it does make me hesitant.

 

[Goodinblack]

EXACTLY
Was waiting for you to post, knew it would be straight up logic!
I'm one of those old school people that like a phone #. While not a deal breaker, it does make me hesitant.

I can see that. I encounter this type of stuff where I work at as well.

Some people get angry if you have a phone number only and no site, some don't care and want EVERYTHING online, some even just send text messages (first time contact....not even knowing if it is a land line or cell)

Others want to talk it through first, and then you NEVER hear their voice again LOL, they use the site to pay etc.....

Some of it seems to be a generational gap...... for others.... they don't want to get burned by a business again as they may have had a poor experience from a different vendor.

 

[TxDrewski]

Here's my deal....
At some point in life your going to pay for a service or product that your not satisfied with. The ability to call and talk to a person, regardless of wether the issue is resolved or not, gives you a better feeling than an email. If shit hits the fan, atleast I can CALL that person/company. In my research of heads/port/polish/ transmission build/ cams/ lifters etc etc, I've spoken to atleast a dozen people. The guys and gals that took their time and talked to me earned my business. I dropped almost a grand with Brian Tooley Racing, even if I get sent the wrong part, or whatever may come up, I'm confident that I can pick up the phone and get results then and not have to play the email game.
On the opposite side, I know what it's like to be so busy that phone calls are out of the question, for that moment... When time and opportunity presents itself, then I'll make calls.
Sometimes it's just a voice on the other end that can soothe chaos.

.... Sometimes it's just a cat pick....

 

[yates ™]

No one is arguing whether or not it is good business practice, BBP made a decision that makes sense for their company, every customer can choose not to use them. You guys advocating for them to get a phone, are you willing to pay an additional $100 per tune? Are you willing to wait am additional week or more for a tune? Wouldn't to give up in person tunes? If you cannot answer yes to all these then what do you expect them to do? A business has to make money or they will no longer be around.

 

[CHOO CHOO]

I have had nothing but great response and work from BBP. Jenna and julie have gone waaay beyond in helping when I had questions or bothered them. From the forum to emails it was generally quick imo. Its a small business, you need to understand that. Supply and demand. They are in high demand from multiple forums and other outputs. Small companies do better with emails because phones are TIME CONSUMING. I dont think you understand how involved phone operations are.

The customer is NOT ALWAYS RIGHT. I spent 12 years as a retail manager. No. Get over yourself. If you dont like it, go somewhere else. Period.

And what Goodinblack stated is true as well. It would be nice to have a phone contact as alot of older generations and people prefer phone. But thats the businesses choice. Not ours.

All in all, I give blackbear an A for customer service imo. Anytime I had questions, they were quick and efficient.

 

[07Burb]

100% agree with both Phil and Derek. In my experience PM via the forum and/or emails both yield very reasonable response times and are willing to answer any and all questions. The fact that they work mostly via email makes all the sense in the world to me but then again I'm not tied to a phone and don't care to talk on the phone. This is 2015 not 1985

As long as BBP is around I won't use any other company for future tunes. That's how much I love the tune on my burb and will eventually use them to tune my 98.

 

[TxDrewski]

Jeez guys I wasn't saying anything bad about them, merely how comforting a phone call can be...
Gah, get off me nuts bros!

 

[07Burb]

Lee has a sexy voice. You should call him for the comfort IMO

 

[TxDrewski]

Lee has a sexy voice. You should call him for the comfort IMO

I've talked to him... It is kinda sexy I guess... When he purrs.
But really, I'm not downing the company, I know EVERYONE on here at one time or another has been pissed because they couldn't get someone on the phone for support, service, sex, whatever....
Emails are so impersonal and its sometimes hard to get into an email what you want to say. I'm not saying they should run out and install a phone line, I was merely stating my opinion on the subject of phone vs email. It's my preference and my opinion only, no disrespect or disdain meant towards anyone. In the oil field, when I need tech support, I am SO glad to be able to pick a phone up. Maybe that's why I'm biased on the subject. It's not like I'm saying anyone's a bad person or company due to their choice to keep it email only, so stop hating meow!

 

[livingez_123]

If you want MPG, you bought the wrong vehicle and being around Denver its not going to happen. I think if I were BBP I would have politely told him to move along. After one experience with BBP he's trashing them. And being a noob with 8 posts. Get a life.

 

[CHOO CHOO]

Your good andrew, no need to explain yourself. We understand where you stand.

 

[TxDrewski]

If you want MPG, you bought the wrong vehicle and being around Denver its not going to happen. I think if I were BBP I would have politely told him to move along. After one experience with BBP he's trashing them. And being a noob with 8 posts. Get a life.

Jeez, hope I never have a bad experience with a company or product everyone else has had a good experience with... If I do I'll be sure and not post my thoughts/feelings/experiences/regrets on a forum.
He had a bad experience and posted about it. Sometimes that's the best thing to do, so that other people don't purchase goods/services that aren't good. This is an odd case since BBP has such a good record, however if someone posted a bad experience with a tuner that's wasn't worth a damn, we would all appreciate the info. Don't hate on people for their opinions on money they spent. He's not changing any minds really, but he is entitled to his say, right or wrong. That's why we have and love this place, the wealth of knowledge, experience, interpretations and community that comes along with it. I love this place for a lot of reasons, and unless someone is just being an all out troll, back off the abuse and be constructive . Posting your thoughts is a lot different then attacking someone. Just my .02, which I hope I'm entitled to as well

 

[CHOO CHOO]

Yep, you make a good point. Its a forum and an opinion. He is entitled to it. Whether we take heed or ignore is up to us.
I think its just odd for us because we rarely hear bad experiences about BBP. Not bad, just odd. To each their own.

 

[yates ™]

He didn't have a bad experience though, he knew from the beginning they didn't offer phone calls, he could have moved on right there. I know Wal-Mart doesn't offer enough lanes open for me to get out of there in a timely manner, I go to target instead of going there. That simple.

 

[CHOO CHOO]

Agreed^^^

 

[TxDrewski]

I PM'd the OP and let him know that despite differences in perception and opinions, there are really good people on here, including everyone at BPP. This is a community and every person that joins and shares his/her own knowledge and experience only helps to strengthen the community. I hope he sticks around and has a good experience down the road with any help he may need.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them and from time to time we can all act like one.
Myself included, gawd I can be dick!

Furries 4 Ever! No No wait, nevermind that last part I Uhhh, I meant ******* and beer!

 

[CHOO CHOO]

Thats nice of you andrew, sad though I feel this was just a rant. Probably wont stick around, this happens quite often...

 

[68lemans462]

Thank you all for your kind comments. It appears that this forum is like most - full of know it all's with little better to do than make highly intelligent comments.......

Since Jenna at Blackbear has been so forthcoming with the information regarding our business transaction and email correspondence, I thought I'd provide their contact info (since it isnt listed on their website or available ANYWHERE). You can call them, but they wont call you back.


Have a nice day gentlemen!