Dried Yellowish Liquid on Front Differential (SOLVED: popped engine mount)

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Not too bad, but I was tired after doing it!

I did not drop front driveshaft or diff.

I did remove the wheels, fender liners, heatshield, and steering shaft.
OK. I am assuming you pulled it out from up top? Didn't have to remove exhaust manifold? Looks like the heat shield on the mount might get in the way
 

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OK. I am assuming you pulled it out from up top? Didn't have to remove exhaust manifold? Looks like the heat shield on the mount might get in the way
Manifold heatshield will need to come off, unless you don't care about it... hammer it in.

Disconnect your steering shaft so it lays off to the side.

I put a block of wood under the catalytic converter, and slowly lifted/tipped the engine up with a bottle jack (raises perfectly straight along the Z-axis, as opposed to the rising arc of a floor jack) until I got clearance. Show those manifold bolts who's boss!


EDIT: got my alphabet mixed up
 
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OK. I am assuming you pulled it out from up top? Didn't have to remove exhaust manifold? Looks like the heat shield on the mount might get in the way
Did not remove manifold, just heat shield.
Destroy old motor mount heatshield. The H3 shield is thankfully slimmer and easier to access the bolts for installation.
 
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I looked up the H3 driver side mount for my year and the 5.3.

The part number that I see is #25847739

I this the correct part number?
 
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I tried calling some shops around town to see how much it would cost for them to do it and save me the trouble. Stealership said about $500 in labor and then parts, so $800-1000. Nope! One shop said they would do it for about $450 parts and labor out the door! I was considering this, but then asked what they would use for parts. They said they replace with solid rubber mounts. I asked what brand, and they said its called "Precision" and they get it from Factory Motor Parts (FMP). Anyone ever of heard of this brand? Anyway, I called FMP and they said they only have a brand called Anchorman. I suddenly started losing faith in this shop and decided to go for it myself, so I ordered the GM Genuine AC Delco #25847739 from RockAuto and it cost me $330 after tax and shipping. Waiting for the part to arrive now, but will probably jump in on it this weekend. Seems like this won't be too bad of a job. Fortunately, I don't need the vehicle daily, so I will take my time on it. At least with me doing it, I know what part will be put on. Hopefully, I won't be breaking any bolts.

Any tool suggestions to make the job go easier?
 
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I started working towards taking the old mount off. I got the exhaust manifold heat shield off and started working towards the mounting bolts. I am half tempted to cut away as much of the engine mount heat shield to get better access to the bolts on the engine. I did start to take out one chassis bolt. That sucker was in there tight! I thought these bolts were only torqued down to about 30-40 foot-pounds but it felt a lot tighter than that! The one I worked on did start to turn for a bit, but then got difficult. I had to work back down and up with my small impact before eventually it came free, but I was fearing I was going to snap this bolt.

Are these bolts normally that much of a pain to get out? I thought about getting some heat on these, or try some PB blaster to see if that will make it easier to get off.

By the way, I was using a long 1/2" extension with a swivel adapter to a 15mm socket to get to the bolt on the chassis. I have not removed the steering drive shaft yet.
 
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I started working towards taking the old mount off. I got the exhaust manifold heat shield off and started working towards the mounting bolts. I am half tempted to cut away as much of the engine mount heat shield to get better access to the bolts on the engine. I did start to take out one chassis bolt. That sucker was in there tight! I thought these bolts were only torqued down to about 30-40 foot-pounds but it felt a lot tighter than that! The one I worked on did start to turn for a bit, but then got difficult. I had to work back down and up with my small impact before eventually it came free, but I was fearing I was going to snap this bolt.

Are these bolts normally that much of a pain to get out? I thought about getting some heat on these, or try some PB blaster to see if that will make it easier to get off.

By the way, I was using a long 1/2" extension with a swivel adapter to a 15mm socket to get to the bolt on the chassis. I have not removed the steering draveshat yet.
I cannot speak to the difficulty of removing these bolts, I haven't had the opportunity yet, but I can speak to doing suspension work on a 2007 Forester I bought used. The PO did lots of iterations on the suspension, and I discovered that he applied some copper anti-seize on the fasteners. Now, whenever I do work under a vehicle that will see water and maybe road salts, I apply a little copper anti-seize.

I am following this thread, because I may have to do this job on mine in the near future, I doubt the mounts have been replaced, and if they haven't been, they are 20 years old and worn out. Definitely have suspension work to do soon.
 

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Make sure you get the H3 mount for the 5.3! They aren't cheap.
Holy Sh*T!!!

Part# 25847739

Talk about price increases. I purchased my H3 motor mounts from Rock Auto in 2019 for my truck, and they were $77.99 each. Today, they are $298.78 each at Rock Auto!

And the OEM motor mount is $181.67 each at GMPartsDirect.com.

If I had to do it over again, I'd still go with the H3 motor mount.
 

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I have had to replace 4 of these over the past 5 years, different vehicles. The job is no fun at all. Seems simple but you will have several hours in it by the time you get it done.
The mount to frame bolts are easy, come at them from above with a long extension and I used a Milwaukee 1/2” drive impact gun. They spun right out. The mount to engine bolts are much harder, I used nearly every tool I have that I thought might help and all of these were done from below. Just be patient, expect it to be a long battle and you will get it done. I did one when I had the front differential removed as I did the oil pan gasket. That was easy.

The brand sold at Factory Motor Parts is Anchor Doan, they have been around for 50 years or more. I used this part in all of the rigs I repaired. I know I may have to do the job again some day but $330 for the H3 mount seemed a bit expensive to me.
 

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Holy Sh*T!!!

Part# 25847739

Talk about price increases. I purchased my H3 motor mounts from Rock Auto in 2019 for my truck, and they were $77.99 each. Today, they are $298.78 each at Rock Auto!

And the OEM motor mount is $181.67 each at GMPartsDirect.com.

If I had to do it over again, I'd still go with the H3 motor mount.
The H3 is no longer supported...we all know what that means...
I think I got my "GM genuine" from Amazon for $165 each. Came in a legit looking box. I needed the money back so I returned it.

Gearing up do do it soon...
 

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I have had to replace 4 of these over the past 5 years, different vehicles. The job is no fun at all. Seems simple but you will have several hours in it by the time you get it done.
The mount to frame bolts are easy, come at them from above with a long extension and I used a Milwaukee 1/2” drive impact gun. They spun right out. The mount to engine bolts are much harder, I used nearly every tool I have that I thought might help and all of these were done from below. Just be patient, expect it to be a long battle and you will get it done. I did one when I had the front differential removed as I did the oil pan gasket. That was easy.

The brand sold at Factory Motor Parts is Anchor Doan, they have been around for 50 years or more. I used this part in all of the rigs I repaired. I know I may have to do the job again some day but $330 for the H3 mount seemed a bit expensive to me.
How did the Anchors hold up? Do you have mileage or years?

I was really considering their three pack (includes tranny) soli rubber mounts, because the price difference is enough to try them.
 

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The factory part fails so I would expect the Anchor part to fail in similar time. The ones in my 08 Denali were installed in March, I have towed with it and they are still intact but who knows for how long. The H3 sounds like the do it once and done solution. Just expensive.
 
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I got my H3 mount in from Rockauto and got it installed on my Tahoe yesterday!

Not too bad a job, but not the easiest, either.

Good tips were provided in this thread, and lots of tips on a Web search.
Lots of tips on Tahoeyukonform, too!
This thread helped, but I did not follow the exact steps listed on it, nor did I have to follow all the steps from other tips


Below is how I approached the job.

I did not have to pull the driver's side tire off or remove the plastic fender well.
I did not have to drop the front drive shaft, although that might have helped a little.

I removed the exhaust manifold heat shield, but didn't need to remove the exhaust manifold itself. One of the tiny bolts for the shield snapped (GrrrI), but the others came out easily.
I did remove the steering shaft linkage. I used a yellow marker to paint alignment marks at each joint, ensuring it would go back together the same way I took it apart. Then, I soaked each joint with PB Blaster. It probably didn't need to be soaked, but I had no idea how difficult it would be to remove the linkage. I used a 15mm socket and wrench to remove the fasteners, then slid the part connecting to the linkage near the firewall out of the joint. The other joint then came off with a slight pull.

The three chassis mount bolts were tight! I used a 20" long 1/2" extension and a swivel socket adapter to get to the bolts, and then attached my 1/2" impact to the other end. I had to loosen and tighten the bolts back and forth a little until they came free.

Getting to the four engine bolts is a challenge with the damn heat shield in the way. I knew I wouldn't reuse the heat shield, so I used my long pry bar to mash it around the mount, giving me better access and a clear view of the four bolts. I have seen plenty of videos where guys can access these bolts without having to do what I did to the heat shield, but I was trying to make it easier for myself. Once I did this, I had a clear view and better access to the bolts.

The back top and bottom bolts, I found it easier to get to them with my long 1/2" extension and swivel socket adapter from underneath the vehicle. I couldn't get a good angle through the fender well, and the exhaust manifold blocked a clear view from the top. But I did have good access from the bottom using my long extension. These bolts loosened up with no problem. I then loosened the front two bolts from up top, which are far easier to do.

To lift the engine, I tried using my floor jack, but I still wanted to have access from the bottom, and it was going to be in the way. I decided to use my bottle jack, which gave me more working room on the floor, and jacked it to a point where there is a bell housing bolt near the oil pan. I did not want to jack it up on the oil pan itself. I did use a block of wood between the jack and the engine as suggested by others; I needed the extra length for the jack, as well as for some protection. As mentioned in the tips, I was careful not to jack too far and watched the top of the engine where it meets the firewall.

I removed the four engine bolts, and then was able to pull the old mount forward and up through the top. It took a little twisting and wiggling to clear everything and get it out.

I then installed the H3 mount. As others said, it is easier to put back in compared to the OEM one. But it did take a little bit of wiggling and twisting to get the alignment pin to find its hole. I did not have to cut down the pin as one person suggested in a video I saw. It was a bit of a pain to lean over the fender to get the length in my arms to maneuver it, but I remained patient and kept wiggling and twisting until it found its place.

The rest of the install is just the reverse of the previous steps, except for mashing the shield. The shield on the H3 mount is much smaller than the OEM one and easier to install. Having the space to torque all the bolts was a bit of a pain, but using my extensions and swivel sockets, I was able to get it done.

Anyway, thanks for all the help diagnosing the problem and giving great suggestions for doing the job. I hope my steps help someone with their mounts. This forum is the BEST for our vehicles!

Here is a pick of the old mount.
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I got my H3 mount in from Rockauto and got it installed on my Tahoe yesterday!

Not too bad a job, but not the easiest, either.

Good tips were provided in this thread, and lots of tips on a Web search.
Lots of tips on Tahoeyukonform, too!
This thread helped, but I did not follow the exact steps listed on it, nor did I have to follow all the steps from other tips


Below is how I approached the job.

I did not have to pull the driver's side tire off or remove the plastic fender well.
I did not have to drop the front drive shaft, although that might have helped a little.

I removed the exhaust manifold heat shield, but didn't need to remove the exhaust manifold itself. One of the tiny bolts for the shield snapped (GrrrI), but the others came out easily.
I did remove the steering shaft linkage. I used a yellow marker to paint alignment marks at each joint, ensuring it would go back together the same way I took it apart. Then, I soaked each joint with PB Blaster. It probably didn't need to be soaked, but I had no idea how difficult it would be to remove the linkage. I used a 15mm socket and wrench to remove the fasteners, then slid the part connecting to the linkage near the firewall out of the joint. The other joint then came off with a slight pull.

The three chassis mount bolts were tight! I used a 20" long 1/2" extension and a swivel socket adapter to get to the bolts, and then attached my 1/2" impact to the other end. I had to loosen and tighten the bolts back and forth a little until they came free.

Getting to the four engine bolts is a challenge with the damn heat shield in the way. I knew I wouldn't reuse the heat shield, so I used my long pry bar to mash it around the mount, giving me better access and a clear view of the four bolts. I have seen plenty of videos where guys can access these bolts without having to do what I did to the heat shield, but I was trying to make it easier for myself. Once I did this, I had a clear view and better access to the bolts.

The back top and bottom bolts, I found it easier to get to them with my long 1/2" extension and swivel socket adapter from underneath the vehicle. I couldn't get a good angle through the fender well, and the exhaust manifold blocked a clear view from the top. But I did have good access from the bottom using my long extension. These bolts loosened up with no problem. I then loosened the front two bolts from up top, which are far easier to do.

To lift the engine, I tried using my floor jack, but I still wanted to have access from the bottom, and it was going to be in the way. I decided to use my bottle jack, which gave me more working room on the floor, and jacked it to a point where there is a bell housing bolt near the oil pan. I did not want to jack it up on the oil pan itself. I did use a block of wood between the jack and the engine as suggested by others; I needed the extra length for the jack, as well as for some protection. As mentioned in the tips, I was careful not to jack too far and watched the top of the engine where it meets the firewall.

I removed the four engine bolts, and then was able to pull the old mount forward and up through the top. It took a little twisting and wiggling to clear everything and get it out.

I then installed the H3 mount. As others said, it is easier to put back in compared to the OEM one. But it did take a little bit of wiggling and twisting to get the alignment pin to find its hole. I did not have to cut down the pin as one person suggested in a video I saw. It was a bit of a pain to lean over the fender to get the length in my arms to maneuver it, but I remained patient and kept wiggling and twisting until it found its place.

The rest of the install is just the reverse of the previous steps, except for mashing the shield. The shield on the H3 mount is much smaller than the OEM one and easier to install. Having the space to torque all the bolts was a bit of a pain, but using my extensions and swivel sockets, I was able to get it done.

Anyway, thanks for all the help diagnosing the problem and giving great suggestions for doing the job. I hope my steps help someone with their mounts. This forum is the BEST for our vehicles!

Here is a pick of the old mount.
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Very nice write-up.
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us. It’s probably too late, but for the benefit of future readers, it’s also a really good time to replace the engine oil cooler lines if you have them on your rig. They age and start leaking after 100k miles or so.
 

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Glad you got it done, nice work. As. you said, it is not impossible, just difficult. Takes far more time than any 8 bolts should take but if you are prepared mentally that this may be a 4 hour job then anything faster makes you feel good.
 

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Broken mounts... Shades of the past!
I was a field service mgr for Chevrolet back in the 70's.
LOTS of lawsuits from broken engine mounts were handled.
You "elderly" folks may recall that the "fix" was a cable looped over the exh manifold.
The next iteration was the "hook" style mount.
The '12 hoe I just got had the mounts replaced the day before I picked it up. Being it was a used car dlr, I doubt they used the "good stuff".
I'll look as I go over the "punch list" of mods, fixes I need to do.
 

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Correct, my mothers 69 Impalla was recalled and they added the cable from the exhaust to the frame so the engine could not jump too far if the motor mount failed. It was a 210 HP 327 with a powerglide so not much chance of breaking a mount. Powerglide = 2 speed automatic for those that are younger.
 

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