DIY Freon Recharge

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I have an '05 Hoe that the AC seems to work adequately unless stopped in traffic when the temp is north of 85. I do have a bit of the hissing sound when the A/C is on so maybe my freon is low? I bought one of those DIY recharge kits w/ the valve / pressure gauge on it.

Any good / bad reviews of these products? Is it ok to do it yourself, or should i just take it somewhere and have them check the pressure?

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I have an '05 Hoe that the AC seems to work adequately unless stopped in traffic when the temp is north of 85. I do have a bit of the hissing sound when the A/C is on so maybe my freon is low? I bought one of those DIY recharge kits w/ the valve / pressure gauge on it.

Any good / bad reviews of these products? Is it ok to do it yourself, or should i just take it somewhere and have them check the pressure?

Thanks

CB
if you just have a very slow leak those recharge cans with the pressure gauge serve there purpose for a temporary fix just fine, but the best solution if it continues to leak out is to fill it with a can that has a dye in it so you can find the source of the leak and make whatever repairs are needed.
 

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if you just have a very slow leak those recharge cans with the pressure gauge serve there purpose for a temporary fix just fine, but the best solution if it continues to leak out is to fill it with a can that has a dye in it so you can find the source of the leak and make whatever repairs are needed.

Or find the leak with a little dish soap.
 

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When it comes to ac I recommend a shop to evac and recharge with dye. The thing is those gauges are not the greatest. Without the proper gauges, you don’t know how much of a charge you have in your system. If your ac stops working, you can search for the leak with UV light and try to pinpoint the source of the leak.
 

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I've used several different recharge kits on several different vehicles over the years, and they all do the same thing - give a reasonably accurate gauge reading of the system, and allows you to refill the system. As was mentioned above, though, even though this will refill, if you have some other issue or leaking Freon, it will only be a stop-gap measure.
 
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its an 05 so you should have electric fans. Have you checked to make sure the condenser fan is kicking on with the a/c. Your symptoms in stop and go traffic are pointing at air circulation issues to the condenser.

Good advice guys, I was going for the 'easy fix'. I had a shop tell me the gurgling sound of the A/C kicking on could mean low freon, but who knows. I'll see if I can check the condenser fan kicking on.. This should be obvious when the air is on and you hear the additional fan kick on - where is it located so i can eyeball it? Guessing it's just the big fans up by the grille?
 
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So the google-fu is telling me it could be the high pressure sensor if it doesn't kick on?
 

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its an 05 so you should have electric fans. Have you checked to make sure the condenser fan is kicking on with the a/c. Your symptoms in stop and go traffic are pointing at air circulation issues to the condenser.
I have seen these kick on/off either when the Freon is low and/or when there is the digital control, the digital controls on 03+ are known to start failing and will work intermittently, the only fix for the control is to replace it. so the first thing I would check is if the charge is correct or not and go from there.
 
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I have seen these kick on/off either when the Freon is low and/or when there is the digital control, the digital controls on 03+ are known to start failing and will work intermittently, the only fix for the control is to replace it. so the first thing I would check is if the charge is correct or not and go from there.

Both fans up by the grille are running and heard one kick off when I shut the ac off.

Digital control seems to work, but only heats up in stop and go, so probably worth having a shop check the Freon.
 
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Both fans up by the grille are running and heard one kick off when I shut the ac off.

Digital control seems to work, but only heats up in stop and go, so probably worth having a shop check the Freon.

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the gurgling sound of the A/C kicking on could mean low freon

If both fans are running correctly, i.e. running/starting/stopping, then as noted you could probably check that off. I had another vehicle that the fan motor itself failed, and that was causing problems with not only the A/C, but with the car cooling itself. Sounds like that's not your issue.

However, the "gurgling" may indicate a low charge, causing what gas is there to "boil" causing the sounds you're hearing. A charge to the system assuming no other problems would probably stop the gurgling when it got closer to full fill.

I don't know for sure, but it could be an over-pressure issue in the system. Not sure about that, every problem I've ever dealt with was low charge, not over charged.
 

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Still on the possibly inhibited airflow subject: Make sure the condenser isn't packed with bugs/road debris. The best fan in the world won't help if it's clogged. It should be cleaned anyway even if it's not the problem. Check and clean your engine coolant radiator while you're at it, too.

I don't see anything wrong with the DIY recharge cans as a diagnostics/temporary fix. I highly advise against the ones that have leak sealers in them, though. I wouldn't trust a bunch of foreign chemicals designed to clog holes circulating through what should be a sealed system. Chances are they won't work or at least won't be a permanent fix and then you'd have these extra chemicals (contaminants) in all the lines, the compressor, the cores, etc. that will need to be cleaned out once the system is opened up for repair.

Although the gauges on the DIY cans are sure to be inaccurate, they're probably close enough. You can get an accurate charge by performing some fancy calculations and accurate temperature measuring. But, I wouldn't worry with all that cuz it's just a temporary fix that will eventually require professional equipment and replacement parts. I recharged my S10 A/C countless times by injecting it until the compressor's cycle times seemed about normal and the Temp Probe's display I had propped up on the dash read low-40s.
 

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the newer systems work off a specific amount, not pressures, to get it right needs to be recovered and the exact amount replaced
 

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