BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[BacDoc]

When I was a kid I remember those STP oil treatment commercials. I had STP stickers on my school stuff and bike as I really wanted to be a motor head when I could eventually drive!

This one commercial had a muscle bound body builder and they dipped the tip of a flat blade screw driver in STP oil treatment. The guy grabbed the tip of the screw driver with his thumb and finger, flexed all his muscles and contorted his face. Every muscle in his body was bulging as he gripped with all the muscles he had. He tried with all his strength but could not hold the screw driver! That was the lubrication power of the amazing STP. Nothing could stop it.

Maybe that’s the solution to the 6.2l problem! STP oil treatment!
Going out tomorrow to search for this elixir and get my motor to last forever! Or at least until the new extended warranty lol!!!!

 

[jfoj]

@23Seven

You just cut off the build month and year in the picture.

Just above the top right side of the QR code are 2 numbers/ 2 numbers

The first 2 numbers are the build Month, the next 2 numbers are the build Year

MM/YY

If the vehicle was built in July 2023 you would see 07/23
If the vehicle was built in July 2024 you would see 07/24

I would be very surprised any 2024 model year trucks would have been built in 07/23 but anything is possible.

 

[KMeloney]

I promise you that your not gonna get any kind of inspection. It better be making a noise or throwing a code. My dealership is NOT gonna tear engines down looking for problems.

I think he’s using the word that appears in various bulletins. If there isn’t some kind of inspection, then how are they going to determine who needs an engine and who just gets oil?

 

[viven44]

Inspection should include the following at a minimum
- Check engine oil pressure when fully hot with 0W-20 and compare with good reference
- Check for P0016 code / history
- Listen for valvetrain noise or other knocking noises
- Ideally look for low-level signals on other PCM parameters that can potentially show a drift if there is metal in the oil (misfires, and others similar to P0016 ? - still don't know how that code is set)
- Last but not least - drain 0W-20 oil and tear apart old filter and check for metal flakes

All of these are easy to do, and should be done at a minimum

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

I promise you that you’re not gonna get any kind of inspection. It better be making a noise or throwing a code. My dealership is NOT gonna tear engines down looking for problems.

Did you read the recall notes? Inspection doesn’t require an engine tear down lol.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

I promise you that your not gonna get any kind of inspection. It better be making a noise or throwing a code. My dealership is NOT gonna tear engines down looking for problems.

I can almost guarantee you, even without reading it, that somewhere in the franchise agreement between GM (franchisor) and your dealership (franchisee) there is a clause that will require your dealership to perform the Manufacturer Safety Recall as written, or your dealership risks losing it's franchise. It has to be this way, else the manufacturer would have no way to affect any safety or product recall situation.

But my curiosity got the best of me..and I did an internet search for "GM Dealer Franchise Agreement", and low and behold, I found this document. Spent 5 minutes, scrolled to section 5.2, and right there, in plain txt, in section 5.2.3 and 5.24 it says:
"5.2.3 Dealer and General Motors will each provide the other with such
information and assistance as may reasonably be requested by the other to
facilitate compliance with applicable laws, regulations, investigations and
orders relating to Products.


5.2.4 To build and maintain consumer confidence in, and satisfaction
with, Dealer and General Motors, Dealer will comply with General Motors
procedures for the investigation and resolution of Product-related complaints."

And in section 7.1.3 it says:
" 7.1.3 CAMPAIGN INSPECTIONS AND CORRECTIONS

General Motors will notify Dealer of suspected unsatisfactory conditions on
Products and issue campaign instructions. Dealer agrees to inspect and correct
suspected unsatisfactory conditions on Products in accordance with the
instructions. Dealer will also determine that campaign inspections and
corrections have been made on new and used Motor Vehicles in its inventory prior
to sale, and follow-up on Products on which campaigns are outstanding

General Motors may ship, and Dealer agrees to accept, unordered parts and
materials required for campaigns. Upon campaign completion, Dealer will receive
credit for excess parts and materials so shipped if they are returned or
disposed of according to General Motors instructions."

Now, whether this is current agreement or something older, I can assure you GM would never remove the general intent of these clauses from it's franchise agreement.

 

[BADRIDES]

Did you read the recall notes? Inspection doesn’t require an engine tear down lol.

I understand that but customers dont know how to interpret what they read. They assume that dealerships are gonna tear down every 6.2 built on the planet. Their will be protocols we have to go by before we even think about doing that. Like I said in an earlier post it took them 2-3 years to fix the takata airbag problem. This involves way too many more parts, people and money for this to come into fruition in 90 days.

 

[GMCnewbee]

Well, this thread has been informative and entertaining, but I think I have hit the saturation point. My 2022 Denali went in for an oil change at my Dealer Monday. Mileage 21,978 and 2,516 miles since my last change. 0W20 and no oil conditioner this time. My plan is to keep driving it and to keep changing the oil. I am under drivetrain warranty until February 2027. We will see what happens but I am thinking about a trade for a 2026 or 2027 if everything holds together until then. I will update the Forum, maybe a new thread "6.2 survivor"? or "6.2 lost it today".

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

I understand that but customers dont know how to interpret what they read. They assume that dealerships are gonna tear down every 6.2 built on the planet. Their will be protocols we have to go by before we even think about doing that. Like I said in an earlier post it took them 2-3 years to fix the takata airbag problem. This involves way too many more parts, people and money for this to come into fruition in 90 days.

Well I'm not one of those customers. So I understand what being entailed here.

 

[jerry455]

The Takata air bag recall was a big problem becuase Takata had no way of producing that many air bags that quickly. There are still vehicles waiting for air bags. It is the biggest recall ever affecting many manufacturers besides GM.