2022 YUKON DENALI 6.2

[Jfuentes9798]

2022 YUKON DENALI WITH 33K miles. Truck was working fine before oil change. Completed the oil change my self @33k miles. Used 0-20 royal purple with oil filter. After oil change truck drove fine. 200 miles in , engine starts making metal to metal noise on the freeway as I was accelerating. Engine stalled out , dash gave me a “ENGINE OIL PRESSURE LOW” checked under truck and there was no leaks. Checked the oil level and it was at the correct level. Tried turning truck on but battery is low to shift to neutral , so they could tow it. It only turned on for 30 seconds with the same noise and I believe it went to engine protection mode. What could cause this?

 

[Antonm]

The 6.2’s have a known issue with oversized lifter bores that in turn starves the rod bearings of oil.

Combined with the use of the ultra thin 0w20 GM specs for these engines ( for CAFE reasons only, they spec thicker oil for the same engine in different applications), and it’s recipe for bearing failures.

Sorry to say it, but I’d bet a lot of money you’re gonna need a new engine.
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[DontTaseMeBro]

Your engine is done. Probably turned your bearings in the process. My ‘22 Yukon had its engine replaced at 30k miles due to the same failure.

 

[Jfuentes9798]

Thanks for the replies. I bought this truck cash at 12k miles from the auction. So warranty is out the window. It’s a risk I take. Anyways , at this point would yall replace the engine with a used engine or would yall rebuilt the existing engine with upgraded parts/specs? I have access to L87’s wholesale. I can replace it the engine with another one but it wouldn’t make sense if I’m going to run in to the same problem again. Or if you were to buy a used engine , what would you change more or less to avoid this factory issues?

 

[Tahoe14]

If you purchased it from the auction that should not void the warranty unless there is more to the story.

 

[Jfuentes9798]

GM warranty wont cover vehicles that have a “Rebuilt title” since it was once considered a total lost for the insurance. My Yukon had rear end damage when I bought it from the auction. Doesn’t matter what type of warranty it is , they won’t cover it.

 

[Tahoe14]

That clarifies it, thanks. Hopefully you get it repaired. If you have the ability to rebuild that’s what I would do. At least you would know what you have. If you purchased another one I would think your chances of having another one break would be slim and it would be an easy swap but you never know for sure. Good luck with your decision.

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

Thanks for the replies. I bought this truck cash at 12k miles from the auction. So warranty is out the window. It’s a risk I take. Anyways , at this point would yall replace the engine with a used engine or would yall rebuilt the existing engine with upgraded parts/specs? I have access to L87’s wholesale. I can replace it the engine with another one but it wouldn’t make sense if I’m going to run in to the same problem again. Or if you were to buy a used engine , what would you change more or less to avoid this factory issues?

Salvage or clean title?

EDIT: see that it's salvage. I usually purchase salvage vehicles myself from either IAA or Copart. In fact, I almost did so again when I set out to buy a Yukon. Bid on about 3-4 of them, all salvage. After doing more research on the platform and coming across all of the engine issues they've been experiencing, I wisely opted to go the clean title route just in case I had a catastrophic engine failure. Picked up a my clean title '22 from Copart a few months ago. Your sad misfortune makes me feel grateful that I didn't end up getting a salvage Yukon myself. Best of luck and I hope you can get things fixed and yours runs for a long time.

 

[Tonyv__]

Salvage or clean title?

EDIT: see that it's salvage. I usually purchase salvage vehicles myself from either IAA or Copart. In fact, I almost did so again when I set out to buy a Yukon. Bid on about 3-4 of them, all salvage. After doing more research on the platform and coming across all of the engine issues they've been experiencing, I wisely opted to go the clean title route just in case I had a catastrophic engine failure. Picked up a my clean title '22 from Copart a few months ago. Your sad misfortune makes me feel grateful that I didn't end up getting a salvage Yukon myself. Best of luck and I hope you can get things fixed and yours runs for a long time.

Off topic, but in what situation would you be able to buy a “clean title” car at an insurance auction? Or maybe I’m misunderstood, do them sites auction vehicles from banks too?

Repossession?

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

Off topic, but in what situation would you be able to buy a “clean title” car at an insurance auction? Or maybe I’m misunderstood, do them sites auction vehicles from banks too?

Repossession?

Private parties can sell clean title vehicles on an insurance auction too. Mine was purchased from a Copart rental auction. The seller was Hertz.

https://www.copart.com/content/us/en/landing-page/clean-title?srsltid=AfmBOoryJE7INZ3Ik_tN5zZhKzjJSyFWE3T7iGuuCMCiAT_ifKSFGLZM

 

[Doubeleive]

GM warranty wont cover vehicles that have a “Rebuilt title” since it was once considered a total lost for the insurance. My Yukon had rear end damage when I bought it from the auction. Doesn’t matter what type of warranty it is , they won’t cover it.

they don't know it has a rebuilt title unless you open your yapper and tell them, take it to another dealer if you already let the cat out the bag
when I take my vehicles to any dealer they dont run the registration thru dmv. they check the mileage and build date which is coded into the vin
so unless the vin was somehow flagged in the entire gm system they will have no clue what it's history is other than work that was previously done at a gm dealer

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

they don't know it has a rebuilt title unless you open your yapper and tell them, take it to another dealer if you already let the cat out the bag
when I take my vehicles to any dealer they dont run the registration thru dmv. they check the mileage and build date which is coded into the vin
so unless the vin was somehow flagged in the entire gm system they will have no clue what it's history is other than work that was previously done at a gm dealer

It absolutely gets flagged lol. The brand is electronically recorded against the vehicles vin. Any GM dealer will automatically know once they run the vin. The manufacturer warranty is null and void once it’s totaled out. No amount of keeping “your yapper” closed will keep them from finding out.

 

[L8T BURB]

If you're having to pay for the replacement engine, go with the 6.6 L8T engine. It is made without AFM lifters. It is essentially a stroked and stronger 6.2 but can run on 87 octane. It is the engine that GM started using in their HD trucks in 2020. It would bolt right up to what you've got. Only change needed would be a custom tune.

 

[Doubeleive]

It absolutely gets flagged lol. The brand is electronically recorded against the vehicles vin. Any GM dealer will automatically know once they run the vin. The manufacturer warranty is null and void once it’s totaled out. No amount of keeping “your yapper” closed will keep them from finding out.

run the vin where, you have experienced seeing this happen?

 

[RST Dana]

Auction does not 100% mean salvage or rebuilt.

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

run the vin where, you have experienced seeing this happen?

Absolutely. They have access to NMVTIS - National Motor Vehicle Transaction System. A government repository. Once a vehicle is written off as a total loss by insurance; they’re required by law to report that information.

https://vehiclehistory.bja.ojp.gov/nmvtis_insurance

If I can go on Carfax(or any service like it) and pull up a vehicles brand history, then without question, a company like GM is going to know as well.

 

[Doubeleive]

You act like we live in an age without databases or the internet lol. Don’t even have to be a dealer to know right away thanks to services like Carfax.

Anyways, yes. They have access to NMVTIS - National Motor Vehicle Transaction System. A government repository. Once a vehicle is written off as a total loss by insurance; they’re required by law to report that information.

https://vehiclehistory.bja.ojp.gov/nmvtis_insurance

that's not what I am saying, I am saying if you pull up to the service drive with a 2022 vehicle with 30k miles and report it is making some engine noise.
the dealer is not going to run the vin in anything than there computer. They arent checking carfax and all this other bull.
it's covered for the standard coverage, unless they learn otherwise. no matter who owns it. even if was bought and sold 10 times.....
so I take it no you have not experienced a situation where the service writer came out and said sorry we cant cover this because it was previously rebuilt.
they dont ask to see your registration or title or anything at all. they ask your name and telephone number. (contact information)
it doesn't even have to belong to me I could take yours in, without question.

 

[Antonm]

While I don't 100% know if all dealership do it, or if its maybe just a Ford thing, but my sister was the service department manager of a Ford dealer for about 10 years or so. She said that when they zap the VIN sticker with their little gun it pulls up all kinds of stuff automatically that they most of the time don't care about. Things like who is the current registered owner, the current insurance company and who's name is on that insurance policy, and even if the vehicle is associated with any public safety alerts (like amber alerts or silver alerts).

Can't imagine that if they are force fed all that information without asking (it actually annoys the service writer because they have to click through all those screens to get to the screens they actually need), that they wouldn't also know the vehicle had a total loss/ branded title.
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[DontTaseMeBro]

that's not what I am saying, I am saying if you pull up to the service drive with a 2022 vehicle with 30k miles and report it is making some engine noise.
the dealer is not going to run the vin in anything than there computer. They arent checking carfax and all this other bull.
it's covered for the standard coverage, unless they learn otherwise. no matter who owns it. even if was bought and sold 10 times.....
so I take it no you have not experienced a situation where the service writer came out and said sorry we cant cover this because it was previously rebuilt.
they dont ask to see your registration or title or anything at all. they ask your name and telephone number. (contact information)
it doesn't even have to belong to me I could take yours in, without question.

Lol and neither have you. Go ahead and try getting warranty service on a branded vehicle. It all has to get approved through GM - not a simple “oh you’re under X amount of miles and years so you’re g2g buddy!” No, every time you take your vehicle to the dealer, the first thing they do is scan the vin for recalls and title brands.

If it wasn’t enforced, then a lot more people would be buying salvage vehicles.

Here’s a perfect example if you don’t believe me:

Branded title-GM blocking warranty for BECM replacement

www.gm-volt.com

 

[Doubeleive]

While I don't 100% know if all dealership do it, or if its maybe just a Ford thing, but my sister was the service department manager of a Ford dealer for about 10 years or so. She said that when they zap the VIN sticker with their little gun it pulls up all kinds of stuff automatically that they most of time don't care about. Things like who is the current registered owner, the current insurance company and who's name is on that insurance policy, and even if the vehicle is associated with any public safety alerts (like amber alerts or silver alerts).

Can't imagine that if they are force feed all that information without asking (it actually annoys the service writer because they have to click through all those screens to get to the screens they actually need), that they wouldn't also know the vehicle had a total loss/ branded title.
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gm doesn't zap anything, they plug in a obdii reader that pulls codes active or historic and the service writer prints it out. doing that also provides the vin & mileage
that's it. so unless someone went into the gm service computer and flagged the vin, they have no clue