H.i.d OR led

[Fleetgeo]

which is brighter and better led or hid

Want to install on my Denali but I wAnt the brightest and best lights what should I choose ?

 

[NathanJax]

which is brighter and better led or hid

Want to install on my Denali but I wAnt the brightest and best lights what should I choose ?

You need to install the correct bulb for the housing you have...

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/tahoe-yukon-headlight-information-thread.47106/

That being said, HID is a better output than LED.

 

[01Konvict]

Retrofit mini h1s with plates into Denali headlights

 

[seven9st surfer]

LEDs can be as bright as HID and require no warmup time, but the housing and projector needs to be designed for LED bulbs. You can't stick an LED bulb in a HID or halogen housing and expect good output. And there are not really any aftermarket LED projectors that would easy or cheap to retrofit.

I ended up using a set of cleared ebay halogen projector headlights and doing a true HID retrofit with the mini H1s that Konvict mentioned:

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/c...ftermarket/bi-xenon-morimoto-mini-h1-7-0.html

I had to remove the whole projector assembly from the housing, make a backplate, and seal the whole thing back up. I also used Morimoto 55w ballasts and 4500k bulbs.

Here's a few shots of my build and the output:

 

[Fleetgeo]

Yea that's what I have I have retro fitted hid bulbs into my housing but put them on them highbeam side beings due when you put hid bulbs into a halogen housing doesn't it disort the light

 

[seven9st surfer]

Yea that's what I have I have retro fitted hid bulbs into my housing but put them on them highbeam side beings due when you put hid bulbs into a halogen housing doesn't it disort the light

You retrofitted an HID projector in the highbeam side, or just put an HID bulb in the highbeam halogen reflector bowl? I hope you meant the former... HID bulbs in halogen reflectors glare like crazy, perform poorly, and are pretty unsafe for oncoming cars (refer to the info thread posted above). I guess it wouldn't be as bog a deal if you're only using them as high beams, but still...

 

[Raul Contreras]

So th

LEDs can be as bright as HID and require no warmup time, but the housing and projector needs to be designed for LED bulbs. You can't stick an LED bulb in a HID or halogen housing and expect good output. And there are not really any aftermarket LED projectors that would easy or cheap to retrofit.

I ended up using a set of cleared ebay halogen projector headlights and doing a true HID retrofit with the mini H1s that Konvict mentioned:

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/c...ftermarket/bi-xenon-morimoto-mini-h1-7-0.html

I had to remove the whole projector assembly from the housing, make a backplate, and seal the whole thing back up. I also used Morimoto 55w ballasts and 4500k bulbs.

Here's a few shots of my build and the output:

So the housings you bought are aftermarket off ebay correct? How difficult would it be to modify factory denali headlights to fit led bulbs? same process?

 

[seven9st surfer]

So th

So the housings you bought are aftermarket off ebay correct? How difficult would it be to modify factory denali headlights to fit led bulbs? same process?

Yeah, my headlights were ebay halogen projectors. I just heated up the housing enough to break the sealant and remove the projector assembly from the housing and made a new backplate that allows the new HID projector to to sit in the same spot and use the same mounting holes (the black HDPE thing in the pics). I believe my headlight assemblies are based on the Denali projectors, so it should be the exact same process.

 

[AppocAlexx]

what ever you do, please for the love of sweet baby jesus do not throw LED or HID bulbs in your stock housing.

 

[seven9st surfer]

what ever you do, please for the love of sweet baby jesus do not throw LED or HID bulbs in your stock housing.

^ This

 

[Fleetgeo]

what ever you do, please for the love of sweet baby jesus do not throw LED or HID bulbs in your stock housing.

Is this due to the fact of the light being distorted because of the projector

 

[seven9st surfer]

LED, HID and halogen bulbs all have different light emission patterns. The housings and projectors for each type of bulb is designed to focus that light into a usable pattern. When you put a bulb into a reflector bowl or projector it wasn't designed for, it can cause a lot of glare due to scattered, unfocused light. Next time you're driving at night, you'll probably see someone with very bright, glaring blue-ish headlights. That is someone who put HID bulbs into halogen reflectors. It actually send less light down the road where you actually want it, and just scatters it all over the place, namely, into oncoming traffic's eyes.

Read up on these threads that were posted earlier, lots of good info

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/fo...t-test?44158-HID-plug-n-play-fails-govt-test=

 

[burbplayer]

Here are my 2 copper cents ...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/94603052@N06/9091113294

There is a right way to do things and of course many ways to get it wrong. Using the right HID system and aiming the headlights afterwards you can increase the light output while throwing less glare on incoming traffic...

 

[burbplayer]

which is brighter and better led or hid

Want to install on my Denali but I wAnt the brightest and best lights what should I choose ?

LED is far from providing the right cutoff line and light output. The guys at vanquish auto took the time to show me the difference. I bought this kit right here : HID Kit for Yukon or Tahoe

 

[TXBowtieGuy]

I put an hid kit in my 04 tahoe and leds in the fogs. I like the pure white the leds make vs my headlights. I also did a full led upgrade to my Harley. Headlight and passing lights and the difference is night and day compared to my other motorcycle that I did hids on. Leds do not produce as much heat and the technology is quickly catching up to hid. Really at this point there is not that much difference but personal preference. Both are superior to stock.

 

[burbplayer]

I put an hid kit in my 04 tahoe and leds in the fogs. I like the pure white the leds make vs my headlights. I also did a full led upgrade to my Harley. Headlight and passing lights and the difference is night and day compared to my other motorcycle that I did hids on. Leds do not produce as much heat and the technology is quickly catching up to hid. Really at this point there is not that much difference but personal preference. Both are superior to stock.

Because the leds on the Harley had projectors and the hids were put on reflectors. It's all about optics and that's why the led kit or reflectors or projectors are so wrong. You would have seen day and night difference if added a good hid system on any good projectors.

 

[TXBowtieGuy]

Here is a pic of the led upgrade for the Harley headlight. the passing lamps are the same but smaller. They are reflected type. And your are right. The hid went in the stock housing and I went with 4 or 5 different setups before I was satisfied. And still the pattern was not ideal. The led is a complete system so the reflectors were designed for the led as it is one complete unit. My Tahoe Hid kit was designed to fit stock housings and it does produce a nice pattern on the ground. By far the best thing I have noticed is how bright the road signs reflect. Before yall start in on me I made sure they weren't too bright to oncoming traffic. They are brighter than stock but not in your face bright. People never bright-check me even on a dark road. With all that said. To Op, always do research and ask around. Cheap is usually not best. Neither is top dollar. Happy hunting and post pics when you decide to pull the trigger.

 

[burbplayer]

Here is a pic of the led upgrade for the Harley headlight. the passing lamps are the same but smaller. They are reflected type. And your are right. The hid went in the stock housing and I went with 4 or 5 different setups before I was satisfied. And still the pattern was not ideal. The led is a complete system so the reflectors were designed for the led as it is one complete unit. My Tahoe Hid kit was designed to fit stock housings and it does produce a nice pattern on the ground. By far the best thing I have noticed is how bright the road signs reflect. Before yall start in on me I made sure they weren't too bright to oncoming traffic. They are brighter than stock but not in your face bright. People never bright-check me even on a dark road. With all that said. To Op, always do research and ask around. Cheap is usually not best. Neither is top dollar. Happy hunting and post pics when you decide to pull the trigger.

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Still much better optics than the stock reflector with hid or led kit(much much worse than hid because it gives no usable light output). That's the cutoff of your led headlights you posted right there. It's focused and bright, the best you can get on reflectors headlights before stepping up to projectors.

 

[BeenChevy]

Weighing in on the better/brighter question HID vs. LED for your Denali

-HID's in projection low beam housings are going to have better distance *********** than LED bulbs in a projection or halogen housing unless it's a spot projector and you wont want that for low beam on-road. LED bulbs will last longer but not recommended over HID in your case.

-I think you'd be most satisfied with HID's in projectors as they'll ********* further down the road in general over in-housing LED bulbs. Stick around 4300k for most usable light.

-If you still want more, build yourself a combo setup with aux LED flood's and spots. I'm using simple combo floods/spots in a Tahoe and Yukon build both with projected 55w Low, 55w Hi/Fog and 300w or less bars. Light output is insane yet I don't blind oncoming traffic (using low beam). I've yet to photo drivers vantage point but here's a headshot.

 

[burbplayer]

That's true about hids in the projection hiusing. I have s Tahoe 2015 and I got my lights for the headlights in hids. They match my led strips. Very happy with these hids results.

I bought them from this link below just in case people want to know.

http://vanquishauto.com/partfinder/...ubmodel=(w/halogen capsule headlamps)&cat=832