Yukon XL 2025 Vs Grand Wagoneer 2025?

[Vladimir2306]

Hello everyone, I have been on this forum for a long time, and regularly write about my 2022 GMC Yukon XL. In a year, my Yukon will be 4 years old, and the mileage will most likely approach 200 thousand kilometers. I am just thinking about what car to get next. At the same time, I have been a long-time fan of GM, I had two Tahoes in a row. Now I have a Yukon.
From the new GM line, I like the Yukon, I don't like the Tahoe and Escalade. And I came across the Grand Wagoneer. In Russia, this car is very rare, but it's really good. I looked at the reviews, all the bloggers unanimously say that it's better than the Escalade in everything, not even the Yukon. What do you think? Still, the new Yukon 6.2, or the Grand Wagoneer 3.0T?

 

[CMoore711]

How is the part availability and local service experience on the Jeep vs the GMC platform?

I’m partial to GMC Yukon as I personally think the windows, pillars, and roof lines look odd on the Wagoneer, but that’s personal preference.

Regardless. If you do sell or trade your ‘22 Yukon I’d be interested in purchasing your Bi-LED retrofit headlights for some stock units plus cash.

 

[B-train]

I've had the grand wagoneer as a rental for work. It's peppy and the 8 speed is well programmed. Overall the fit and finish was very good for a Chrysler product I thought.

I absolutely hated the control screen - it will take some learning for sure. The seats were good, handling seems good as well. Not sure about longevity, but I guess you can't say much about the newer Yukons with the 6.2L either.

The lines look awful in my opinion. The GM products look more refined.

 

[jfoj]

Do your research on the 3.0 Hurricane engine, if you think the GM line is problematic, I would run fast from the 3.0 Hurricane platform.

 

[LegalBrief]

Read the wagoner forums, the vehicle is horrible, and will leave you stranded, which would be worse in a country with no dealer net work. Stick with GM

 

[GMCnewbee]

I am waiting for the 2026 Yukon myself. I do not really like the 2025 center screen. I think the 2026 will have a screen more like what is in the 2025 Tahoe.

I drove the first year Wagoneer and I did like it, I just like the Yukon a lot more. Agreed there has been some bad news about them and I saw a used one at my GMC Dealer that had depreciated A LOT! My Wife liked the Yukon as well so there you go.

 

[martinajm]

I drive a Yukon and recently drove a Wagoneer for a week - about 1500 miles. I had driven them before, but this was a really long trip so I got very familiar with the vehicle.

Interior is "nicer" IMHO. Seats are more comfortable too. I did not like the "all glass" controls, i.e. everything was on screen and I felt it difficult to locate the correct item on the screen while driving, i.e. to change navigation, temperature, etc. In contrast, my Yukon still has some buttons and dials, i.e. temperature control, radio volume, seat heat / cool, etc.

My 15 and 17 year old oved it. They felt that the second row was better appointed for their needs.

The one big takeaway from all of us however was how much we disliked the exterior appearance of the vehicle.

 

[Vladimir2306]

How is the part availability and local service experience on the Jeep vs the GMC platform?

I’m partial to GMC Yukon as I personally think the windows, pillars, and roof lines look odd on the Wagoneer, but that’s personal preference.

Regardless. If you do sell or trade your ‘22 Yukon I’d be interested in purchasing your Bi-LED retrofit headlights for some stock units plus cash.

You understand that I won't be able to remove my headlights from the Yukon, I'll sell them along with the car. Theoretically, the service and I studied the issue of selling upgraded headlights in the US, it came out to about $2,500, that's buying OEM headlights, modifying, adjusting and sending them back to the US. But in Russia, cheaper options have already appeared on small Chinese lenses, the cost of reworking is two times cheaper than mine. but the light is worse) If necessary, I can describe this solution.

As for spare parts, there are no problems with this in Russia, any spare parts from US dealers or from Rockauto arrive in 4-5 weeks.

 

[Vladimir2306]

I've had the grand wagoneer as a rental for work. It's peppy and the 8 speed is well programmed. Overall the fit and finish was very good for a Chrysler product I thought.

I absolutely hated the control screen - it will take some learning for sure. The seats were good, handling seems good as well. Not sure about longevity, but I guess you can't say much about the newer Yukons with the 6.2L either.

The lines look awful in my opinion. The GM products look more refined.

Yes, I like the looks of the Yukon, I still like it, and I like the 2025 model too)

 

[Vladimir2306]

Do your research on the 3.0 Hurricane engine, if you think the GM line is problematic, I would run fast from the 3.0 Hurricane platform.

I had no problems with GM, even on the wave of problems with the 6.2 engine, mine has already traveled 120 thousand km, without complaints)

 

[Vladimir2306]

Read the wagoner forums, the vehicle is horrible, and will leave you stranded, which would be worse in a country with no dealer net work. Stick with GM

I read, it seems like nothing special, there is a platform from Dodge Ram 1500, with a large margin of safety. Yes, in Russia there are not as many specialists in these cars as in GM))

 

[Vladimir2306]

I drive a Yukon and recently drove a Wagoneer for a week - about 1500 miles. I had driven them before, but this was a really long trip so I got very familiar with the vehicle.

Interior is "nicer" IMHO. Seats are more comfortable too. I did not like the "all glass" controls, i.e. everything was on screen and I felt it difficult to locate the correct item on the screen while driving, i.e. to change navigation, temperature, etc. In contrast, my Yukon still has some buttons and dials, i.e. temperature control, radio volume, seat heat / cool, etc.

My 15 and 17 year old oved it. They felt that the second row was better appointed for their needs.

The one big takeaway from all of us however was how much we disliked the exterior appearance of the vehicle.

There's only one thing I don't like about the Grand Wagoneer, it's the console between the second row seats. In the regular Wagoneer there's a passage, which is very convenient with four children))) but I don't like the regular Wagoneer)

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

I had no problems with GM, even on the wave of problems with the 6.2 engine, mine has already traveled 120 thousand km, without complaints)

You got 200k relatively trouble free miles out of your Yukon...seems like reloading would be prudent. It is not like you baby yours, you drive it hard and in some serious weather.

 

[Vladimir2306]

You got 200k relatively trouble free miles out of your Yukon...seems like reloading would be prudent. It is not like you baby yours, you drive it hard and in some serious weather.

Oil change is mandatory, but I change it according to the regulations, once every 7500 miles, the only thing I change more often is the oil in the automatic transmission and drives and transfer case. Once every about 35,000 miles. Precisely because I drive a lot and aggressively))

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Did

Oil change is mandatory, but I change it according to the regulations, once every 7500 miles, the only thing I change more often is the oil in the automatic transmission and drives and transfer case. Once every about 35,000 miles. Precisely because I drive a lot and aggressively))

Do you also do the front and rear differential fluid changes at 35,000 when you do the transfer case and transmission?

 

[Vladimir2306]

Did

Do you also do the front and rear differential fluid changes at 35,000 when you do the transfer case and transmission?

Yes, of course))

 

[BacDoc]

Hello comrade!

I drive a Tahoe 6.2l and have driven the Grand Wagoneer as a rental in mountains and snow and it drove well but imo the GM with V8 performance is noticeably better. As others have mentioned the interior of the Wagoneer is luxury and maybe more comfortable as in softer but in my experience the softer seats (and sofas) wear out faster.

Also as others have mentioned the screen controls are not as easy to access and take more attention to work. The exterior is definitely different in many ways - the trim pieces hold water, the window lines are awkward imo and rear window/hatch is not as clean as the GM. Some might like it but not for me.

From your posts it looks like you are in harsh country or mountains with full on winter. Go for the V8 if you’re a motor head like some of us on this forum.
For translation purposes the word “motor head” is someone who takes care of the truck but drives it like he stole it, at least sometimes LOL!

 

[adventurenali92]

Hello comrade!

I drive a Tahoe 6.2l and have driven the Grand Wagoneer as a rental in mountains and snow and it drove well but imo the GM with V8 performance is noticeably better. As others have mentioned the interior of the Wagoneer is luxury and maybe more comfortable as in softer but in my experience the softer seats (and sofas) wear out faster.

Also as others have mentioned the screen controls are not as easy to access and take more attention to work. The exterior is definitely different in many ways - the trim pieces hold water, the window lines are awkward imo and rear window/hatch is not as clean as the GM. Some might like it but not for me.

From your posts it looks like you are in harsh country or mountains with full on winter. Go for the V8 if you’re a motor head like some of us on this forum.
For translation purposes the word “motor head” is someone who takes care of the truck but drives it like he stole it, at least sometimes LOL!

One of my long time detail clients picked up a new 2022 wagoneer and I absolutely HATE the window trim on it. It takes decades i feel like to get all the moisture blown out of the window trim. Especially the rear hatch window seal. I don’t know how it traps so much water in that seal, and they live on a fairly lengthy dirt road so not only does it trap a crap ton of water it traps so much dirt. After only two years of horrendous issues with the rear axle apparently constantly disassembling itself at the rear wheels, and the dealer not being able to fix it she finally said enough and dumped it in favor of a CPO 2023 Escalade with super low miles. I don’t miss detailing the wagoneer lol

 

[Vladimir2306]

Hello comrade!

I drive a Tahoe 6.2l and have driven the Grand Wagoneer as a rental in mountains and snow and it drove well but imo the GM with V8 performance is noticeably better. As others have mentioned the interior of the Wagoneer is luxury and maybe more comfortable as in softer but in my experience the softer seats (and sofas) wear out faster.

Also as others have mentioned the screen controls are not as easy to access and take more attention to work. The exterior is definitely different in many ways - the trim pieces hold water, the window lines are awkward imo and rear window/hatch is not as clean as the GM. Some might like it but not for me.

From your posts it looks like you are in harsh country or mountains with full on winter. Go for the V8 if you’re a motor head like some of us on this forum.
For translation purposes the word “motor head” is someone who takes care of the truck but drives it like he stole it, at least sometimes LOL!

Hi))
There is another important nuance here that I did not mention right away, in Russia we have increased customs duties on cars with an engine capacity of more than 3 liters, and less than 3 years old) and therefore it turns out that a car, for example, a Yukon 6.2 liter in Russia costs about 200 thousand dollars, and a Yukon 3 liter diesel and a Grand Wagoneer 3.0 T cost about 150 thousand dollars... I really don’t like diesel, and I don’t want one)))
And now I'm sitting here thinking...is my love for the V8 worth $50,000)))
As for my place of residence, you are not quite right)) I live in a large metropolis, in the capital of Russia, Moscow)))) I just love to travel by car, around Russia and neighboring countries, that's why I have a lot of photos from the mountains or forests) in particular, photos in the snow, this photo was taken on the other side of the Ural Mountains, in Siberia, in winter, at a temperature of -40C.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Hi))
There is another important nuance here that I did not mention right away, in Russia we have increased customs duties on cars with an engine capacity of more than 3 liters, and less than 3 years old) and therefore it turns out that a car, for example, a Yukon 6.2 liter in Russia costs about 200 thousand dollars, and a Yukon 3 liter diesel and a Grand Wagoneer 3.0 T cost about 150 thousand dollars... I really don’t like diesel, and I don’t want one)))
And now I'm sitting here thinking...is my love for the V8 worth $50,000)))
As for my place of residence, you are not quite right)) I live in a large metropolis, in the capital of Russia, Moscow)))) I just love to travel by car, around Russia and neighboring countries, that's why I have a lot of photos from the mountains or forests) in particular, photos in the snow, this photo was taken on the other side of the Ural Mountains, in Siberia, in winter, at a temperature of -40C.

Sooner or later, it always comes down to money and taxes (I guess those are the same thing).
In this case I guess you could buy yourself the Wagoneer and a Honda-CRV or Toyota RAV4 as a spare, for when the Wagoneer is broken down
Or you could just get a Yukon and keep loving it.
Or, you could see if you can get that beautiful ride you currently own to take you another 100K.