Projector Fogs...?

[BP RETIRED]

Any one do a retrofit? Im playing with a 3" regular projector that uses a H11 bulb. Fitment is not bad, just have to see what type of light out put I get.

 

[NathanJax]

Won't happen without SERIOUS modifications. So much that Serge (Soulsea) abandoned it after buying $500 projector lights, new set of foglights, etc. etc.


There is simply not enough room down there. There's been previous talk about it. I'll try to find it

 

[BP RETIRED]

Won't happen without SERIOUS modifications. So much that Serge (Soulsea) abandoned it after buying $500 projector lights, new set of foglights, etc. etc.


There is simply not enough room down there. There's been previous talk about it. I'll try to find it

Hmmm....Got one semi done.....

The projectors edges had to be trimmed to fit...but that was it. But I dont have a shroud yet. I have to measure what will fit to cover and will have to go from there.

From the side

 

[Regency]

Looking good good luck bro

 

[NathanJax]

Ah I see. Is that a weather-proof projector?

 

[BP RETIRED]

Ah I see. Is that a weather-proof projector?

ya know...Im not sure. There is a seal where the glass meets the metal, but other than that i dont see any way it is. Ill have to R&D that to see what may have to be done. The good thing is that if this does not work I can just put back my older fogs.

 

[Strobin]

Good to see I wasn't the only one with this idea.....definitely wanna see this get done

 

[drroy]

I wouldn't say you were semi done, i would say just starting, looks as though you have stuck an Bosch e46 projector in the fog light hole. Still have to weatherproof , set up an aiming system and the enclose and shroud them....and make all that look good. So a bit of work in front of you, It can be done but gonna involve a bit more work

 

[soulsea]

Roy, does the e46 use a H11 bulb, is it a halogen projector?

Btw X2 on everything you just said + I'm not sure oem paint and clearcoat are going to be too happy about having the hottest part of the projector so close to them. I keep looking at this and trying to figure out how to shroud, cover, and protect the lens at the same time, whilst keeping the whole thing from looking like someone stuck two flashlights in their fog holes.

Nevertheless, I love and appreciate the fact that BP is trying this ... we need more hid pioneers.

 

[BP RETIRED]

I wouldn't say you were semi done, i would say just starting, looks as though you have stuck an Bosch e46 projector in the fog light hole. Still have to weatherproof , set up an aiming system and the enclose and shroud them....and make all that look good. So a bit of work in front of you, It can be done but gonna involve a bit more work

Yep I agree on this. They both are in and I have light to them. Right now I have no shrouds and am just playing with them to see what type of heat im going to get. I can also see that I have to straighten out the drivers side a little bit. The passenger side is nice and straight.
I dont plan to upgrade to a HID bulb, and plan on keeping the whole tahoe ballast free. I do plan a projector retrofit in the headlamps, using the same type of projector. Im just waiting for a few parts yet to tackle that job.
All I want a little better light disbursement that what I have now.

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Roy, does the e46 use a H11 bulb, is it a halogen projector?

The auction that I won stated Mercedes-BMW H11 Projector. So I dont know the original auto they came from.

 

[1Agerry]

looks good so far

 

[soulsea]

The auction that I won stated Mercedes-BMW H11 Projector. So I dont know the original auto they came from.

If it is an oem H11 projector then it is a halogen projector. The output with HIDs might not be terrible, but it won't be ideal, it really depends on the projector. Might be okay for fog use though.

Have you considered using Fusion fog projectors? They're very small and might be easier to rig and cover for your approach. Plus they are closed projector so a lot less exposed to the elements and less heat dissipation. They're not very expensive: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/sho...-new-never-used-Fusion-Projector-Fogs-for-HID

 

[BP RETIRED]

If it is an oem H11 projector then it is a halogen projector. The output with HIDs might not be terrible, but it won't be ideal, it really depends on the projector. Might be okay for fog use though.

Have you considered using Fusion fog projectors? They're very small and might be easier to rig and cover for your approach. Plus they are closed projector so a lot less exposed to the elements and less heat dissipation. They're not very expensive: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/sho...-new-never-used-Fusion-Projector-Fogs-for-HID

Serge...
Never heard of them, but as I look at the pictures I dont think they would fit without major cutting. I dont want to do that. I did order gatling gun shrouds last night. Should be here in a few days. I think they will be the only shrouds that will fit the small space down there and allow the length I need to cover and protect the projector. If they dont Ill just put my regular fogs back in and call it a day.

 

[soulsea]

Mmm, the regular Gatling shrouds are very big, I'm not sure that's going to work. There's a mini Gatling but I don't know if it will shroud a 3" projector. The bigger problem is that a shroud covers the sides but will not protect the lens. Don't give up tho, you're doing something new and your inner MacGyver must come out.

Btw, I'm pretty sure all that bracketing on the fusion fogs can be dremmeled away of not needed ... Jp7 on HIDP can confirm/deny this. Plus keep in mind that they are much smaller than the projector you are using now.

 

[blkonblk]

Have you considered using Fusion fog projectors? They're very small and might be easier to rig and cover for your approach. Plus they are closed projector so a lot less exposed to the elements and less heat dissipation. They're not very expensive: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/sho...-new-never-used-Fusion-Projector-Fogs-for-HID

hmmm

this is something i might have to tackle nextt. They are closed projectors so just figure out a way to mount them and game on...i think

 

[soulsea]

lulz.

Well Bo, the right way to do this so that it looks correct on the truck is the following:

You need to keep your existing fog lamps and cut a hole in the back of them to stick the projector as far forward as you can without touching the front plastic lens, and JBW the two bits together. Then you have to use fiberglass to fabricate something that will hold the projector against the bumper. You might be able to use the bumper's existing attachment points but some of that strange bodywork back there might need to be trimmed to fit the projector. There's no worry about depth cause there's plenty of space, it's just figuring out a way to fasten the modified lamp and projector to the bumper. The last detail would be to cut a small piece of stainless steel to make a tiny custom shroud for the bit of the projector inside the lamp so that you keep the whole chrome theme of the lamps.

It's not that it's difficult, it's more time consuming than anything else and requires some fabrication skills. But this would resolve in a more oem look and the front of the projector will be protected.

Make sense?

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ETA: Btw, the reason for a custom fiberglass cradle is not just to attach the projector to the bumper but to also give some support to the back of the projector. Otherwise it will be too heavy behind the JBW connection and you'll run over something and it will crack.

 

[blkonblk]

lulz.

Well Bo, the right way to do this so that it looks correct on the truck is the following:

You need to keep your existing fog lamps and cut a hole in the back of them to stick the projector as far forward as you can without touching the front plastic lens, and JBW the two bits together. Then you have to use fiberglass to fabricate something that will hold the projector against the bumper. You might be able to use the bumper's existing attachment points but some of that strange bodywork back there might need to be trimmed to fit the projector. There's no worry about depth cause there's plenty of space, it's just figuring out a way to fasten the modified lamp and projector to the bumper. The last detail would be to cut a small piece of stainless steel to make a tiny custom shroud for the bit of the projector inside the lamp so that you keep the whole chrome theme of the lamps.

It's not that it's difficult, it's more time consuming than anything else and requires some fabrication skills. But this would resolve in a more oem look and the front of the projector will be protected.

Make sense?

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ETA: Btw, the reason for a custom fiberglass cradle is not just to attach the projector to the bumper but to also give some support to the back of the projector. Otherwise it will be too heavy behind the JBW connection and you'll run over something and it will crack.

makes complete sense. this will be a new project for next month

 

[soulsea]

 

[drroy]

Roy, does the e46 use a H11 bulb, is it a halogen projector?

Btw X2 on everything you just said + I'm not sure oem paint and clearcoat are going to be too happy about having the hottest part of the projector so close to them. I keep looking at this and trying to figure out how to shroud, cover, and protect the lens at the same time, whilst keeping the whole thing from looking like someone stuck two flashlights in their fog holes.

Nevertheless, I love and appreciate the fact that BP is trying this ... we need more hid pioneers.

good point, kind of read over the H11 part. I was looking at that frosted lens with the raised ridge across the lens, looks like a e46 bixenon. Now I am not sure what projectors they are. i know hella makes a halogen H11 that is very similar to the mercedes E55 bixenon (without the bixenon/halogen mechanism), but it does not have that weird frosted and ridged lens.

 

[BP RETIRED]

Mmm, the regular Gatling shrouds are very big, I'm not sure that's going to work. There's a mini Gatling but I don't know if it will shroud a 3" projector. The bigger problem is that a shroud covers the sides but will not protect the lens. Don't give up tho, you're doing something new and your inner MacGyver must come out. QUOTE]

If the Shroud works, which I think it will I already have a plan on protecting the lens.

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good point, kind of read over the H11 part. I was looking at that frosted lens with the raised ridge across the lens, looks like a e46 bixenon. Now I am not sure what projectors they are. i know hella makes a halogen H11 that is very similar to the mercedes E55 bixenon (without the bixenon/halogen mechanism), but it does not have that weird frosted and ridged lens.

The ridge can not be felt on the outside. The lense is clear, my white bumper makes it look frosted.