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One fairly large consideration for this move is resale. I have a feeling the 6-sp Denalis will be more difficult to resell than an 8-sp.

I agree. Since I'm paying cash I don't want to be behind on a major mechanical feature right from the start. I would be pissed if I were an unsuspecting early adopter!
 

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I agree. Since I'm paying cash I don't want to be behind on a major mechanical feature right from the start. I would be pissed if I were an unsuspecting early adopter!

I highly doubt that the 6 sp will adversely affect resale value. Dealers buy cars like cattle, they heard them through based on what that week's auction price dictates. Anybody looking to buy a used Denali or Escalade will be more worried about condition and mileage.

I just cancelled my 6 speed for the 8 because the wait won't be as long as the ownership, and anything that helps get rid of that old 6 speed lag will be a huge improvement.
 

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I highly doubt that the 6 sp will adversely affect resale value. Dealers buy cars like cattle, they heard them through based on what that week's auction price dictates. Anybody looking to buy a used Denali or Escalade will be more worried about condition and mileage.

I just cancelled my 6 speed for the 8 because the wait won't be as long as the ownership, and anything that helps get rid of that old 6 speed lag will be a huge improvement.
Agreed on resale it will have little to no affect for this type of truck. 90% of buyers of these trucks could care less how many gears the transmission has. Your buying a poeple mover SUV not a Porsche TT with PDK. Sure I would love the 8 speed and I think it will be a great trans but it's not a deal breaker for us after 3 months of waiting. My wife's truck will rarely see 5-6th gear. She spends most her time around town with speed limits of 35. And with the right tune it will keep me more then happy when I drive it :)
 

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Agreed on resale it will have little to no affect for this type of truck. 90% of buyers of these trucks could care less how many gears the transmission has. Your buying a poeple mover SUV not a Porsche TT with PDK. Sure I would love the 8 speed and I think it will be a great trans but it's not a deal breaker for us after 3 months of waiting. My wife's truck will rarely see 5-6th gear. She spends most her time around town with speed limits of 35. And with the right tune it will keep me more then happy when I drive it :)

I would have GLADLY traded the 8 speed for the 6 speed and a summer 14' delivery. Unfortunately, I'm still sitting at 1100, so I'm not giving up much..
 

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x3 on 8 speed not making any difference in resale value.

2 things to remember:

- If you are waiting until the "next best thing that's getting ready to come out"- your gonna wait forever cause there is always going to be something better.

- Consider being the guinea pig for a brand new trans. That's not something you want Billy Bob the grease monkey working at the dealer tearing into that he knows absolutely nothing about.

Just my .02

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I would have GLADLY traded the 8 speed for the 6 speed and a summer 14' delivery. Unfortunately, I'm still sitting at 1100, so I'm not giving up much..

I would recommend you get in contact with someone at GM higher up. That is ridiculous to wait that long. Someone should be able to get the ball rolling and have yours produced within 2 weeks (if you decided not to wait on the 8 speed now)
 

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I would recommend you get in contact with someone at GM higher up. That is ridiculous to wait that long. Someone should be able to get the ball rolling and have yours produced within 2 weeks (if you decided not to wait on the 8 speed now)

I've done everything we could. My dealer has done everything they could. A few dealer trades were offered, but nothing close enough.
No allocation on Denalis for them, and that's that..
An NHL Hockey player is waiting right behind me, and he's also out of luck until allocation eases.
So, I might as well cut bait and get the updated model in hopes that the trans doesn't spit parts.

Ironically, our 6 speed went out in our 10' Tahoe at 50 miles.. They fixed it, and it's run 50K without issue.
Hopefully, we won't have issues with the 8.
 

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I'm looking FWD to the 8spd Denalis, will probably get rid of mine when they come out. The 8spds are already going in the 2015 trucks, so most of the bugs should be shaken out.
 

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8speeds are only going into the 6.2 l SUVs and Trucks as of now.
 
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Anyone that thinks the 6-speed won't devalue much vs. the 8-speed units are definitely incorrect. Trying to be a "ginea pig" on the transmission? We are all ginea pigs on the entire truck! Remember, this 6.2L direct injection engine, although similar to the old unit, is NOT the same as the previous generation 6.2L. The 8-speed unit shares some components with the current 6-speed and is built in the same Toledo, Ohio plant.

The 6.2L equipped trucks with the 8-speed transmissions are going to drive COMPLETELY different than the old setup. Shifts will be faster, more responsive, the 1st gear ratio is shorter, the final drive taller, two overdrive gears, etc., etc. 0-60 will be shaved and fuel mileage higher.

This is nearly the same transmission in the Corvette Z06 and Stingray, with different programming. Imagine what a Diablo sport tuner, plugged into a 2015.5 Yukon Denali would/could do for shift speeds (for those performance-minded individuals). I also have a feeling that in addition to the 8-speed transmission and 4G/LTE On-Star additions, there will be other minor updates that will arrive with the 4th quarter models.

I sold my 2015 Denali today and will take delivery of an October build 2015.5. The $700 hit was WELL worth it in driving experience and resale.
 
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How much more is the Msrp going to be on the new 8spd vs the 6spd. If I would of know it was going to come out in 2015.5 I prolly would of waited but when I ordered mine the dealer said 2016 and I couldn't wait that long. Might call and give them a ear full maybe they will give me a good deal on a 2015.5


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Anyone that thinks the 6-speed won't devalue much vs. the 8-speed units are definitely incorrect. Trying to be a "ginea pig" on the transmission? We are all ginea pigs on the entire truck! Remember, this 6.2L direct injection engine, although similar to the old unit, is NOT the same as the previous generation 6.2L. The 8-speed unit shares some components with the current 6-speed and is built in the same Toledo, Ohio plant.

The 6.2L equipped trucks with the 8-speed transmissions are going to drive COMPLETELY different than the old setup. Shifts will be faster, more responsive, the 1st gear ratio is shorter, the final drive taller, two overdrive gears, etc., etc. 0-60 will be shaved and fuel mileage higher.

This is nearly the same transmission in the Corvette Z06 and Stingray, with different programming. Imagine what a Diablo sport tuner, plugged into a 2015.5 Yukon Denali would/could do for shift speeds (for those performance-minded individuals). I also have a feeling that in addition to the 8-speed transmission and 4G/LTE On-Star additions, there will be other minor updates that will arrive with the 4th quarter models.

I sold my 2015 Denali today and will take delivery of an October build 2015.5. The $2k hit is WELL worth it in driving experience and resale.

My thoughts as well. There are going to be many years' worth of 8-speed Denalis produced and only one year of 6-speeds.
 

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For those who think mpg will be greatly improved with the 8 spd think again. At some point taller overdrive gears don't work. It will downshift on the slightest hill. Anybody who has a NBS or NNBS with 3.08 gears knows what I am talking about. The 3.45 geared trucks do a little bit less of that.
There is just too much weight and too much frontal area to turn the low rpms on the hwy that corvettes have done since the c5.
Where mpg savings will come from is the 8spds ability to essentially run 1 pump instead of 2, which will help greatly with parasitic losses.
If GM were smart they would also make the doors aluminum as well as the suspension components and try to get 250 lbs out of them.
GM definitely went evolutionary on K2XX.
If they could get the weight down to what the Gmt800 NBS was the 60 hp increase would be very noticeable.
 

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Whatever...the 8-speed Denali will be better than the 6-speed. That's the bottom line. Just drive every other competitors' vehicles with more advanced transmission systems.

Mileage aside, the vehicle's power train will be much more responsive and always be in a better rev band.

It's just going to be a better package.
 

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I would wait until 2016, let them get some bugs worked out first.
will it be a GM 8spd or sourced elsewhere?
 

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This is an all-GM 8-speed produced in the Toledo, Ohio Powertrain Assembly Plant (where all of the 6-speeds are currently produced). BTW, the 8-speed is LIGHTER than the 6-speed due to use of magnesium and other lightweight metals vs. the 6-speed
 
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My Dealer just told me that they got some confirmation that the 8-speed is coming in the Escalade and that the 360 degree camera is coming on the Platinum Escalade - but he did not get confirmation about the timeline of availability on the transmission for the Denali, but will let me know as soon as they hear for sure.
Purchase an X5. Wish I would have kept mine. They have had monstrous V8s, Surround View Cams, and 8SPD ZF Trans for years.
 

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