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this is a very common pattern: telling people that feature X is for their "safety", when in reality it is done to surveil and control them.

other related examples: Find My feature on the iphone sends continuous gps coordinate data to apple, intel "anti theft" allows large organizations to control machines on remote, intel management engine allows for "people" to control machines on remote, search engines and social media routinely blacklist content for "safety", etc.

whether most people realize it or not, onstar - and every other default-enabled car monitoring system - is there to mine their location data and sell that data to interested 3rd parties. unless you fully disable the cellular transceiver used by such systems, you cannot even use your own vehicle without it being tracked, even if you leave your phone/devices at home.
you have to realize also at least for the gmt900's being that 3g is defunct these units at best could only receive a satellite signal, there is no transmission = untraceable.
and the k2's and T2's could be traced provided there was a 4g signal, there is no satelitte "uplink" on any publicly sold GM ehicles unless you somehow added it 3rd party, these only receive. without 4g they can't sit there on there on computer screen and watch you move around that requires a "signal transmission"
the word "onstar" leads many to believe you have some kind of space based communication, you do not.
if you crash in the mountains with no cellular service and press the blue button ain't no one coming to rescue you, your done.
 

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you have to realize also at least for the gmt900's being that 3g is defunct these units at best could only receive a satellite signal, there is no transmission = untraceable.
and the k2's and T2's could be traced provided there was a 4g signal, there is no satelitte "uplink" on any publicly sold GM ehicles unless you somehow added it 3rd party, these only receive. without 4g they can't sit there on there on computer screen and watch you move around that requires a "signal transmission"
the word "onstar" leads many to believe you have some kind of space based communication, you do not.
if you crash in the mountains with no cellular service and press the blue button ain't no one coming to rescue you, your done.
So if the vehicle is untraceable, how does onstar provide location information to the popo in the event your ride is no longer in your possession and the thugs are out for a ride?
 

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So if the vehicle is untraceable, how does onstar provide location information to the popo in the event your ride is no longer in your possession and the thugs are out for a ride?
via 4g cell towers on the k2's and T2's. gmt900 and previous are untraceable unless you installed a 3rd party product such as lojack
they have a few tricks up there sleeve such as license plate readers but that only gives a general vicinity as you passed the camera
or if say someone was kidnapped and they called 911, then they could trace the phone within a couple 100ft or so, provided it was still with the vehicle.
 

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you have to realize also at least for the gmt900's being that 3g is defunct these units at best could only receive a satellite signal, there is no transmission = untraceable.
and the k2's and T2's could be traced provided there was a 4g signal, there is no satelitte "uplink" on any publicly sold GM ehicles unless you somehow added it 3rd party, these only receive. without 4g they can't sit there on there on computer screen and watch you move around that requires a "signal transmission"
the word "onstar" leads many to believe you have some kind of space based communication, you do not.
if you crash in the mountains with no cellular service and press the blue button ain't no one coming to rescue you, your done.
It would depend on what year. GM offered LTE in later 900’s.
 

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It would depend on what year. GM offered LTE in later 900’s.
any cellular ONStar can be easily disabled. Short the antenna to ground (stuff the connector with aluminum foil. If the cellular device is based on a smaller portable with an internal antenna wrap it in foil and leave it installed and powered on. Put's the device out of the coverage area, ask me how I know. ;)
 

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It would depend on what year. GM offered LTE in later 900’s.
No suv's anyone has ever heard of, there was a rumor about maybe some canadian models having it but highly doubtful otherwise some of us would have modded it in.
they changed the silverado's in 2014 to the mylink and gds2 systems, suv's changed in 2015.
have you ever heard of a gmt900 with mylink and built in 4g hotspot? the radio would be completely different
per GM:
Chevrolet today announced at the Consumer Electronics Show that the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette, Impala, Malibu, and Volt would be the first General Motors’ vehicles to come optionally equipped with OnStar 4G LTE. They will be followed by the Equinox, Silverado, Silverado HD, Spark and Spark EV. In the Canadian market, OnStar with 4G LTE will be introduced on the Chevrolet Trax as well. The majority of the 2015 Chevrolet lineup in the U.S and Canada will have a 4G LTE connection built-in at vehicle launch. More models will be announced later this year.
 

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this is the crossover list for 12-14 radio's (no-mylink) note it does not fit 2014 1500 silverado/sierra
it does fit all 2014 1500 suv's
  • SIERRA DENALI 1500 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SIERRA 3500 PICKUP 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SAVANA 2500 VAN 16 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS), ID 22737640
  • TAHOE 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SUBURBAN 2500 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SIERRA 2500 PICKUP 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • EXPRESS 3500 VAN 15 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • YUKON 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • ESCALADE EXT 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SIERRA DENALI 2500 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SAVANA 3500 VAN 16 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS), ID 22737640
  • SILVERADO 3500 PICKUP 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SILVERADO 1500 PICKUP 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • ESCALADE 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SAVANA 3500 VAN 15 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • EXPRESS 2500 VAN 16 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS), ID 22737640
  • SIERRA DENALI 3500 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • AVALANCHE 1500 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SAVANA 2500 VAN 15 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • EXPRESS 3500 VAN 16 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS), ID 22737640
  • EXPRESS 2500 VAN 15 receiver, satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SIERRA 1500 PICKUP 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SILVERADO 2500 PICKUP 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • YUKON XL 2500 12-13 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • ESCALADE ESV 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • SUBURBAN 1500 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
  • YUKON XL 1500 12-14 satellite receiver with traffic (opt UBS)
Then the new style mylink radio went in the 2014 silverado/sierra 1500's
and in 2015 it went in most if not all remaining, looks like the vans and 2500/3500's could have had either the new or old style
at this point the radio became modular and they just upgraded the modules for ios 4-5-6 etc, adding in cd. dvd, bluray, android auto/car play, etc
some of the pickups came with a lower end 4" screen
 

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Trying to remove the onstar module on my 2019 Tahoe LT... but mine doesn't look like what I have seen on some YouTube videos and what was described in this thread. Here is a pic of the connections that I see on ny mic. Want the onstar module gone and then I have to find the wifi module. Shouldve bought an older Tahoe\Yukon ha.
 

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Trying to remove the onstar module on my 2019 Tahoe LT... but mine doesn't look like what I have seen on some YouTube videos and what was described in this thread. Here is a pic of the connections that I see on ny mic. Want the onstar module gone and then I have to find the wifi module. Shouldve bought an older Tahoe\Yukon ha.

Thats not the Onstar. That’s the HMI, don’t break those USB connectors or your radio won’t work any more.
 

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Found it! Wasn't looking exactly in the right spot. Onstar and wifi no longer work. A win for today.
perhaps not but flock, apple, google still work. so does anything other than cash.
and if you really want to get fancy you have to paint your face.
all privacy b.s. aside nobody has anything to worry about, if you are doing something stupid then you are stupid and will get caught
now if you have a prisoner in the dungeon just don't f@cjk up and all is well until you die.
 

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All the Gen III / NNBS 07-14 Full size SUV were equipped with 2G only. Since 2G is abandoned by all carriers, all 2G OnStar vehicles have OnStar removed as the red light in the rear view mirror shows.

There are 3 or 4 of us here in the States running 3G OnStar modules pulled from totalled Gen III Canadian vehicles that had the 2G to 3G conversion done. The green led in the mirror stays on and able to OnStar whether subscribed or not.
 

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@petty43 was referring to a '19 model.

But to disable it in 07-14, you only need to pull INFO fuse IIRC..?

If that doesn't do it, removing vcim and splicing two pairs of wires will allow you to remove it.
You will lose voice controls and bluetooth phone connection.
 

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I was under the impression you could use the bluetooth with your cell phone for calls..?

If completely useless, all the more reason to rip it out! (when you get a chance)
 

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I wonder what is different on my GMT900 that never came with OnStar from the factory since it was built as an export model:
  • Mirror has no OnStar button, only two buttons to turn on and off auto-dimming
  • Steering wheel has a talk button that only activated mute with the factory headunit, no voice commands or anything
  • No OnStar & Bluetooth module (VCIM) below the radio behind the bezel, no unplugged or jumper connectors visible
  • LTZ with standard CD-DVD radio, no navigation or backup camera, no pins in tailgate wiring for a camera
  • Tech2 complains that the OnStar module is not responding (LOL)
 
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