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solli5pack

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And on the opposite end of the spectrum when my Yukon lost a non afm lifter on I believe cyl 3 I just pulled the drivers side head, replaced the lifter trays, swapped the failed lifter with a used one from my Suburban and put it back together with new gaskets and bolts. Also still running great. Truck had 115,000 on the clock.
 

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I do have what sounds like lifter tap when I first start it up during the winter mornings I need to figure out. I need to do a lot of research on pre-load but not getting any misfires.
I fixed the cold start lifter tick on my stock LS1 by installing shorter (7.350") pushrods and getting the preload (0 lash to 22 ft #s) down from 1 1/2 turns to 1 turn. Original pushrods were 7.388" long. Most folks on a corvette forum just think lifter tick is normal and live with it. I know differently, because I own 3 LS engines.
https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/thr...-this-is-an-exhaust-leak.156486/#post-2009863
 

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I fixed the cold start lifter tick on my stock LS1 by installing shorter (7.350") pushrods and getting the preload (0 lash to 22 ft #s) down from 1 1/2 turns to 1 turn. Original pushrods were 7.388" long. Most folks on a corvette forum just think lifter tick is normal and live with it. I know differently, because I own 3 LS engines.
https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/thr...-this-is-an-exhaust-leak.156486/#post-2009863
Yes. I've seen your previous post on the topic and I'll definitely be using them for info while I try to figure it all out. I'm betting my engine tap on it! I own 2 LS's and currently looking for a broken camaro so I should understand it.
 

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Forget the so-called kits, purchase the components you need individually so you know exactly what you're getting. That kit you referenced for example suggested reusing the timing chain. No, new timing chain and tensioner. New VVT actuator and solenoid.... OEM genuine GM ACDelco. Online you can purchase an L92 camshaft from Chevrolet performance. Melling 10296 oil pump with the +10 psi spring installed. Cloyes timing chain and gear set. Michigan Motorsports will sell you the genuine Delphi LS7 lifters with the gold retaining clips, as well as genuine GM lifter trays. Do not use any other brand of lifter trays. If you don't want to deal with the angle torque on the cylinder heads, splurge the $160 or so and by the ARP reusable bolts. Just torque them down like the good old days in three stages. Go online and buy the steel plugs that you tap in with a hammer into the oil towers below the valley cover. Even though your new valley cover will come with o-rings to seal, it's best to make sure there's no chance of losing pressure there. Like I said, be careful about buying a prepackaged kit. There's one company... I want to avoid naming so we'll just call it a company that's named after the state of Texas..... Tried to sell me a kit and when I looked up the part number of the camshaft it was for a 6.0 and not the 6.2. Didn't have the correct lift or duration. Called and told them that's not acceptable..... They said it will work just fine..... And I said yes, with about 50 less horsepower.... And they hung up.

You also need a new crankshaft harmonic balancer bolt. It's also a torque to yield and not reusable. I would replace the camshaft and crankshaft position sensors with genuine GM, simply due to the age on yours. The blue felpro mls head gaskets are good, as well as their front timing set.

The list while you're in there can get extensive, depending how much you want to spend. Installing a trunion kit is good preventative maintenance for the future. Great time to throw that new water pump on. You will need the flywheel locking tool that bolts on in place of the starter. Is the starter original? Good time for a brand new ACDelco, new not remanufactured. All new hoses, serpentine belt, tensioner and pulley.... It all just depends how much you want to spend in the quest for a reliable engine.
When retaining the VVT do you know how much HP this design makes with the appropriate tune? Thank you!
 

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If you take your 6.2 L94, physically remove the AFM garbage, use either Chevrolet performance lifters or genuine LS7 lifters, and install a non AFM L92 or L9H camshaft that retains VVT.... You will retain your original 403 horsepower rating. No tune is necessary other than turning off the AFM in the ECM.

I'm not a big fan of the disablers that plug into the OBD2 port, except as a temporary measure until you get around to doing the AFM delete. Some of them are known to drain the battery if left plugged in. Also, it presents an issue if you need to plug in your bidirectional scanner with the engine running, checking for things like misfires or other readings. As soon as you unplug the disabler and plug your scanner in, it's looking for the AFM components and will throw codes.

I personally like the Diablo predator 2 for GM. Easy to use, no learning curve and a bunch of other settings. The big advantage is say a couple years down the road, GM issues a recall for something like airbags. You go by the dealer and they swap out the airbag. They have a habit of plugging in to the OBD2 port and updating things.... And could very easily overwrite your AFM being turned off. Easy fix if you have the Diablo ... Simply plug in and turn it back off. If you have previously sent your ECM in to have it turned off, and mail back to you.... You're vehicle will be basically down until you pay again and get it back. The Diablo comes with a little cover for the OBD2 port that has "do not flash" printed on the cover to remind any texts not to mess with it. I keep the Diablo in the cubby with the spare tire jack, in a small plastic case for that very reason. Lol, I think it's been back there almost 2 years now.
 

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I’m getting a dod delete on my 6.2 19 Chevy suburban new stock cam and lifters and getting mixed info Texas speed sold me a mechanical delete kit with a Diablo programmer to disable the afm stuff but some say that’s all I need and some say I will still need actual tuning anyone know the answer to this
 

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The Diablo works good for deactivating AFM/DOD following a delete. I would recommend it. If you upload the economy tune included with it, and go with the transmission settings that tighten up the shifting a little, you'll get 18 to 19 miles per gallon average and longer life out of your transmission.

You won't need additional tuning as long as you use an oem L92 genuine GM camshaft, that retains the variable valve timing. You were retain the original horsepower and torque ratings.

If you go aftermarket on the cam, yes, you will need something like HP tuners to adjust for that. You're far better off purchasing the items individually than purchasing a package from a vendor.... That way you know exactly what you're getting. Like for LS7 lifters, get them from Michigan motorsports. They are the real thing, not Chinese fakes.
 

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The Diablo works good for deactivating AFM/DOD following a delete. I would recommend it. If you upload the economy tune included with it, and go with the transmission settings that tighten up the shifting a little, you'll get 18 to 19 miles per gallon average and longer life out of your transmission.

You won't need additional tuning as long as you use an oem L92 genuine GM camshaft, that retains the variable valve timing. You were retain the original horsepower and torque ratings.

If you go aftermarket on the cam, yes, you will need something like HP tuners to adjust for that. You're far better off purchasing the items individually than purchasing a package from a vendor.... That way you know exactly what you're getting. Like for LS7 lifters, get them from Michigan motorsports. They are the real thing, not Chinese fakes.
I got the the l86 replacement cam tsp-316804
 

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I just noticed you're working on a 2019 model. That's the generation 5 engine, direct injection and such. The form you're on relates to about 2007 to 2014 models.... Haven't touched the delete on anything newer than a 2014. (Personally I avoid the generation V... Not a fan of dealing with the higher pressure fuel system, valve stem deposits.... It's a completely different animal for the most part)

I would recommend you inquire on the subform that deals with the 2019 models. There should be more people there with the relative info.
 

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