McGaughys new product

[NORCAL SS]

No this started when he called the belltech cheepy which many people here and on the other sites i sell these to will back up what i said and that they are not.

this entire spindle thing is not from the new 07 up its from the 99-06 spindles and we can see what McGaughys said to the customer in the sss.


modded many of the trucks i do doesnt matter belltech/djm springs/mcgaughys on customers rides on the 07 up trucks they start off ok and then slowly rides gets worse and worse especaillly with 2 inch drop springs. I have a buddy at dealership here i can get warranty on stock struts (which other dealers wont do if you use drop spring or this kind of lowering here) and we pop in the new struts and customers like oh many this rides a lot better and then slowly but surely ride starts going bad again

Stock struts are not meant to lower 2 inches on. Sure companies make the drop parts and i sell it but i warn the customers about this and the drop sturts are pretty much almost the same amount as the springs.

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BTW Tim did you find the belltech and djm spindle that you said was copied from Mcgaughys??? Please post up pics.

 

[Modded]

I get what your saying about the cheapy thing, I don't even know who desgined those struts but they look quality enough to me, I would have got them but it was too late lol.
Now for Tims relocators, I just wantto see how it rides, one advantage of the Belltech shocks is they compliment the stiffness large wheels can cause. On my life, I did not notice a change in ride going from 20s, to 24s!! Maybe its because my front shocks are Bilsteinds and the rears are Belltech SP, so I would like to see someone try Tims relocators and see how it rides with stock.aftermarket wheels, pretty sure it will be good too.

 

[NORCAL SS]

yah id like to also see how it rides after more miles is put on them also.


also how much do they cost compared to the belltech drop struts? The belltech struts are about $200 shipped. im guessing like i said prob 50-60 shipped

 

[Modded]

If its anywhere cheaper than $120 people are going to hop all over it because of the price. But then what the review on them is, is what really matters!!

 

[NORCAL SS]

yes long term review im sure its a lot cheaper than $120

 

[NORCAL SS]

Tim did you find the knock off Belltech and DJM spindles you said you had yet?? Can you post up pics please?

 

[NORCAL SS]

i forgot yesterday was Sunday you guys were prob closed. Hopefully today we can get pics of those DJM/Belltech knock off spindles you have.

 

[NORCAL SS]

just a update i talked to DJM today got all my story str8 lol


DJM has never been sued or anything by Mcgaughys at all. I talked to someone at DJM said the spindles were made for 2 or 3 months (my fault on that one) but the a arms were a better seller so they went with them and they said it aligned much better with the a arms. No one talked to them about copying or getting sued and being sued is the first they ever heard.



Im waiting to hear from belltech about this also.

 

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Oh ok so they made spindles, they might as well should have kept making them.
But yeah lets see what Belltech says....

 

[NORCAL SS]

due to it not aligning and 2 other companies selling spindles it wasnt a money making option to them. The a arms were selling 10x better than the spindles so they tossed the spindles stuck to arms like the do now also

 

[Modded]

How messed up those a spindle design have to be for it not to align, sounds like just a straight faulty design.
The only issue is those A-arms are expensive as hell.

 

[NORCAL SS]

not sure but their other spindles are fine.

 

[55belairtim]

i forgot yesterday was Sunday you guys were prob closed. Hopefully today we can get pics of those DJM/Belltech knock off spindles you have.

no i was open just didnt have time to be on the internet had 2 customers cars i was working on.
heres the pics

it is of my opinon that both these companies took the mcgaughys spindel and had a mold made from it. they look too much alike at least djm made a hole through the spindle down near the ball joint boss but besides that its idenical in my opionion

i hope this shows you guys that i dont lie make up stuff just to get sales. as was implied by someone on here.

 

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Yeah you were right, those do look alot like the McG spindles, they also ran the same lock nut/upper hub bolt design the McG one runs.
Also, that DJM spindles looks nasty lol.....

 

[NORCAL SS]

never said you made it up just way it all went down i wanted proof thats all.

now as for the lawsuit like i said what was the result on the paper work cause anyone can sue someone and then gets dropped in court?

 

[55belairtim]

i never said they sued them just that they shut them down federally for patent infringments. i never said they got sued that would mean they whent to court and there was an outcome from it. the papers were filed with the court system they got served (djm and bell) and they stoped making the parts. thats what happened.
i belive you said in one of your posts maybe not on here but gmfullsize i dont remember where it was that djm never made a spindle and they never heard of a lawsuite. well theres the proff
like i said, i never said they got sued just shut down federally.
thanks tim

 

[NORCAL SS]

read post 28 on the djm thing i posted above.

what is done is done. Belltech changed their design this applied to the old spindles and they still sell well. From what the paper work shows it was copied and then changed.

djm sticking to a arms and thats that. Thanks for clearing all that up for everyone and especially me tim since i sellt he parts and wanted to know the true story.

 

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How about DJM you give me some free A-arms, and then Tim some free spindles, and I will run them (1000 miles each) and give the best unbiased review, then return the loser of the review back to whoevers product is not as good to me?

 

[NORCAL SS]

i shold do that with the kbee coilovers. Just the spring rate is what im dealing with now on them but they lower up to 3 inches. I've sold over 180 sets for the trailblazer guys over 3 years nothing but good reviews and i hope to be doing the same for these 07 up trucks also

 

[Modded]

I'm down, how much will you estimate they run when they do come out?