Expedition vs Yukon

[Polo08816]

I don't think Stellantis will keep the hurricane engines around for 4 years, it will probably be phased out once they get their EV program running.

Do they have an EV program...?

Their mild hybrid system on the Ram 1500 was/is a joke.

 

[Wwes]

Expedition has the twin-panel moonroof for pretty much every trim except base.
At least GM makes it an option on most of the trims.
I won't have a sunroof in any truck I'm buying - I buy them to use as a truck (getting to hunt camp through rough roads) and don't want 900 lbs of glass over my head. Nor to deal with potential leaks.

 

[R32driver]

I don’t really see a lot of new expeditions driving around but my goodness all of a sudden everybody and their brother and mom are driving around in a new Tahoe or Yukon or Escalade. They are absolutely everywhere. Don’t feel very exclusive anymore in our new model that hardly anyone else has. GM must be filling a lot of orders these days

 

[GMCnewbee]

I agree, I have been seeing A LOT of new Tahoes, Yukons, and Escalades around. GM is cranking them out and we are buying them up. That is why the long wait when you order. $6 per gallon gas might slow that down.

 

[Polo08816]

A short driving review around the 23 minute mark of a Stealth Performance Package. It seems pretty flat through the corners for a vehicle that size.

 

[Banks22]

I don’t really see a lot of new expeditions driving around but my goodness all of a sudden everybody and their brother and mom are driving around in a new Tahoe or Yukon or Escalade. They are absolutely everywhere. Don’t feel very exclusive anymore in our new model that hardly anyone else has. GM must be filling a lot of orders these days

I don’t see many Escalades in my parts

 

[Baja_Bob]

A short driving review around the 23 minute mark of a Stealth Performance Package. It seems pretty flat through the corners for a vehicle that size.

I like that guys videos.

 

[Stbentoak]

I don’t see many Escalades in my parts

There are plenty of people in my area that "can" afford them... they are just not available. I've only seen 1-2 on the road in my area of the midwest... Dealer is telling any buyer 6 months min...

 

[Baja_Bob]

When the dealer near me gets a new Escalade they park it up front, he may get 1-2 per week and they are usually ordered/pre-sold. A couple days and it's gone, the same dealer also sells Chrysler products and parks the Wagoneers out front and those only last a day or two.

 

[Banks22]

There are plenty of people in my area that "can" afford them... they are just not available. I've only seen 1-2 on the road in my area of the midwest... Dealer is telling any buyer 6 months min...

If you could get one without a markup and GMS discount I would consider getting an Escalade next, I think they look the best of the big 3.

 

[Polo08816]

I like that guys videos.

My one criticism for Youtube reviews is I honestly don't care for someone going into extensive detail describing the exterior. People are going to think what they are going to think and it isn't going to change their mind. Also, most people are not blind.

I'd rather they tell me about all the things I can't easily see about the car.

 

[Polo08816]

Here's a new review by Straight Pipes. Looks like there is reason to avoid the 15" screen.

 

[Polo08816]

Video review of the 2023 Toyota Sequoia towing a lighter trailer. I'm not a fan of the Sequoia rear cargo area storage. Although I would be interested to see if Toyota decides to develop a long wheel base version to better compete with the Expedition Max, Suburban/Yukon XL, and Wagoneer L. I would also prefer it in a non-hybrid configuration.

 

[bunky319]

Video review of the 2023 Toyota Sequoia towing a lighter trailer. I'm not a fan of the Sequoia rear cargo area storage. Although I would be interested to see if Toyota decides to develop a long wheel base version to better compete with the Expedition Max, Suburban/Yukon XL, and Wagoneer L. I would also prefer it in a non-hybrid configuration.

Interesting...Yes, they would have to offer an XL version before I'd even consider it....also...don't these have solid rear axles? Not sure that's a good thing for everyday driving.

 

[Polo08816]

Interesting...Yes, they would have to offer an XL version before I'd even consider it....also...don't these have solid rear axles? Not sure that's a good thing for everyday driving.

These do have solid rear axles which can be more appropriate for towing. However, they don't ride as well as IRS. I'm not sure I would go as far as to say they are not good for everyday driving. Almost all half ton pickups as well as the previous generation GM full size SUVs use solid rear axles and are used for everyday driving. I would prefer IRS in a full size SUV unless it's a 3/4 ton full size SUV (which doesn't exist currently).

 

[Polo08816]

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[swathdiver]

These do have solid rear axles which can be more appropriate for towing. However, they don't ride as well as IRS. I'm not sure I would go as far as to say they are not good for everyday driving. Almost all half ton pickups as well as the previous generation GM full size SUVs use solid rear axles and are used for everyday driving. I would prefer IRS in a full size SUV unless it's a 3/4 ton full size SUV (which doesn't exist currently).

You can have a great ride with a solid axle, the main benefit to using an IRS is the increased depth of the cabin back there making the 3rd row more comfortable for taller persons.

 

[Polo08816]

Looks like Jeep sales of the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer have increased by a significant percentage from 2022 Q1 to 2022 Q2.

Wagoneer
Q1: 7,056
Q2: 10,221
Delta: +45%

Grand Wagoneer
Q1: 3,169
Q2: 3,932
Delta: +24%

I wouldn't be surprised if they were selling 30,000+ units per year once the L models are introduced and the supply chain has recovered somewhat.


Ford needs to get it together. Here are their Expedition sales.

2022 Q1: 9,718
2022 Q2: 6,436
Delta: -34%


I don't think GM has reported sales yet.

 

[NYisles1]

I don't think GM has reported sales

 

[Polo08816]

Ah okay so it was posted here about 2 days ago:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/07/gm-sales-figures-numbers-results-united-states-q2-2022/

I wish they would put 2022 Q1 sales in that chart as well so it is easy to compare.