Escalade EV announced

[DLAv8r]

I have an f150 Lightning. It’s my 3rd f150 and my fav. I recently had the hybrid and that was nice as well, but complex and had issues. The forums are littered with problems on them. The EV is relative simple and has so far been my most reliable new car I’ve owned in the last few years.

Over 7,000 miles of zero issue driving. Charging costs per month around 40-50$ for a little over 1,000 miles driving average. The power is addictive. Granted I don’t need to tow often. I’ve towed our lake boat with zero issues, but our lake is within an hour drive.

I hate that EVs have become so politicized. I bought it because I like tech and the ev acceleration is fun. I’m not attempting to save the planet. So far my running costs including purchase price (tax incentives helped) are much better compared to the ICE f150s I owned last year. It’s interesting that so many folks get triggered by EVs. Most that had these opinions definitely felt different after driving my truck for a test.

The biggest issue is charge networks or lack of a true Tesla SC alternative that is reliable and abundant. I charge from home and drive this vehicle nearly all around town. EVs are a great to own around town if you can charge from home and don’t necessarily need a car with gas capabilities ( heavy towing, long distance driving).

We have an order for a 3.0 Denali that will be the family hauler road trip vehicle. Excited to see how we like it.

I wish the Escalade EV well, but realize it will be priced ridiculously. I would prefer to get a Rivian if I was going the EV SUV route.

Great to have so many car options for purchase currently.

 

[DuraYuk]

Pretty sure a gas vehicle doesn’t lose more than half its range in the winter. Nice try though.

50%? More like 25% to 30% at 70mph. Some as little as 3%. This info is available.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/evs-lose-range-in-the-cold/#:~:text=Some%20EVs%20lose%20as%20little,care%20for%20their%20car's%20batteries.

CR Tests Show Electric Car Range Can Fall Far Short of Claims - Consumer Reports

Over the past year, Consumer Reports sought to answer this question by conducting seasonal testing on popular, new EVs: Ford Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and Volkswagen ID.4.

www.consumerreports.org

 

[DuraYuk]

I have an f150 Lightning. It’s my 3rd f150 and my fav. I recently had the hybrid and that was nice as well, but complex and had issues. The forums are littered with problems on them. The EV is relative simple and has so far been my most reliable new car I’ve owned in the last few years.

Over 7,000 miles of zero issue driving. Charging costs per month around 40-50$ for a little over 1,000 miles driving average. The power is addictive. Granted I don’t need to tow often. I’ve towed our lake boat with zero issues, but our lake is within an hour drive.

I hate that EVs have become so politicized. I bought it because I like tech and the ev acceleration is fun. I’m not attempting to save the planet. So far my running costs including purchase price (tax incentives helped) are much better compared to the ICE f150s I owned last year. It’s interesting that so many folks get triggered by EVs. Most that had opinion’s definitely felt different after driving my truck for a test.

The biggest issue is charge networks or Lack of a true Tesla SC alternwtive that is reliable and abundant. I charge from home and drive this vehicle nearly all around town. EVs are a great to own around town if you can charge from home and don’t necessarily need a car with gas capabilities ( heavy towing, long distance driving).

We have an order for a 3.0 Denali that will be the family hauler road trip vehicle. Excited to see how we like it.

I wish the Escalade EV well, but realize it will be priced ridiculously. I would prefer to get a Rivian if I was going the EV SUV route.

Great to have so many car options for purchase currently.

Exactly. It has to work for the person no doubt. And we are getting there everyday.

I have a diesel yukon for the range. Owned toyota hybrids and Teslas and a mach e gt. They are fun but like everything they have weaknesses and strength.

I hate that people who do bash evs don't use facts but sensationalism. Plenty of real things to complain about. No need to make things up.

I hope they make a maverick ev. Would be a sweet little DIY truck.

 

[Onlyone]

50%? More like 25% to 30% at 70mph. Some as little as 3%. This info is available.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/evs-lose-range-in-the-cold/#:~:text=Some%20EVs%20lose%20as%20little,care%20for%20their%20car's%20batteries.

CR Tests Show Electric Car Range Can Fall Far Short of Claims - Consumer Reports

Over the past year, Consumer Reports sought to answer this question by conducting seasonal testing on popular, new EVs: Ford Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and Volkswagen ID.4.

www.consumerreports.org

My Tesla and coworkers Tesla was more like 50% or more at times in the winter. A friends lighting was laughable. Not even close. Consumer reports is laughable. Real world experience here. Loved my Tesla. I will own another at some point when they figure out the battery issues. EVs are not ready yet.

 

[DLAv8r]

My Tesla and coworkers Tesla was more like 50% or more at times in the winter. A friends lighting was laughable. Not even close. Consumer reports is laughable. Real world experience here. Loved my Tesla. I will own another at some point when they figure out the battery issues. EVs are not ready yet.

At most my Lightning experienced around a 25% hit with cold temps. Preconditioning the truck for departure mitigated a lot of that.

EVs aren’t for everyone, but they are pretty damn good.

 

[Onlyone]

At most my Lightning experienced around a 25% hit with cold temps. Preconditioning the truck for departure mitigated a lot of that.

EVs aren’t for everyone, but they are pretty damn good.

You must not live where it gets really cold. My Model S was really fun and fast. I loved it, and yes I agree with you, they’re not for everyone but for sure they won’t be ready for prime time for a long while. They are a toy as of now. That’s it.

 

[DLAv8r]

You must not live where it gets really cold. My Model S was really fun and fast. I loved it, and yes I agree with you, they’re not for everyone but for sure they won’t be ready for prime time for a long while. They are a toy as of now. That’s it.

North AL. We get into the teens occasionally most of winter in the 30s etc. I dunno , this toy does all I need it to do that I required of my other trucks. I don’t plan on going all EV, but it’s a great setup having one in the household.

 

[Onlyone]

North AL. We get into the teens occasionally most of winter in the 30s etc. I dunno , this toy does all I need it to do that I required of my other trucks. I don’t plan on going all EV, but it’s a great setup having one in the household.

Yes, they are fun , fast and can be extremely helpful. I am in no way anti EV. I agree they can be useful in the future. They are just fun toys as of now. And yes Alabama is not cold. I can see why it works ok for you. Not so much down here. That’s why my friends Lighting barely gets over 125 miles in the deep cold parts of winter here. He loves it in the warmer months.

 

[Vladimir2306]

The efficiency of modern internal combustion engines is more than 40%, modern diesel 50-60%. The efficiency of a nuclear power plant is 30-35%, coal-fired 20-25..all over the world, 60% of electricity is produced by burning coal. They are trying to transplant us to less efficient technologies

 

[DuraYuk]

My Tesla and coworkers Tesla was more like 50% or more at times in the winter. A friends lighting was laughable. Not even close. Consumer reports is laughable. Real world experience here. Loved my Tesla. I will own another at some point when they figure out the battery issues. EVs are not ready yet.

Mine didn't suffer range loss like that. Non of our evs have. Maybe like 20% at most when it was -15 and the heater was blasting. Our tesla had tons of other quality problems but the battery worked properly.

 

[DuraYuk]

The efficiency of modern internal combustion engines is more than 40%, modern diesel 50-60%. The efficiency of a nuclear power plant is 30-35%, coal-fired 20-25..all over the world, 60% of electricity is produced by burning coal. They are trying to transplant us to less efficient technologies

That is misinformation. 20% was coal and it's declining year over year.

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the U.S. last year

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the United States for the first time in 2022, the U.S. Energy Information Administration announced Monday.

www.pbs.org

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

I think 'they' are transitioning from fossil fuels to renewable energy.

37% on a worldwide level and again that is gonna taper significantly. https://www.worldcoal.org/coal-facts/coal-electricity/

Far cry from your 60% sensational jargon lol.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

I’ll have to carry a Honda generator in the back of the Tahoe, in case I run out of juice.
I don’t know??? They can’t get over the air updates right without sometimes bricking the car.

 

[swathdiver]

No offense man but your reading sensationalist headlines.

Ev install prices. Level 3 would be awesome. But even level 2 for the house is ok fine and reasonable. https://blog.carvana.com/2021/07/how-much-does-it-cost-to-install-an-ev-charger/

I've had toyota hybrids for decades and ive never had to replace a battery. And the beauty of it is hybrids don't have lots of consumables normal ice engines have like serp belts or brakes that need to be changed every 30 to 40k miles.

You do lose capacity during winter. Just like gas does too.

If electricity goes down due to weather events do gas stations still work? Answer is no.

Sall good tho.

You didn't address my scenario about the sick relative. The reality is that vehicle is not up for the task. If the gas stations go down I have 50 gallons in my garage and I can drive to another town for fuel. EVs cannot do that.

As others have stated, it's good for a suburban commuter, city folk parking their cars on the street, not so much. Can you imagine what it would be like trying to charge your EV up in the Bronx? LOL

EVs don't have brakes anymore? My serpentine belt lasted 177K miles.

That is misinformation. 20% was coal and it's declining year over year.

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the U.S. last year

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the United States for the first time in 2022, the U.S. Energy Information Administration announced Monday.

www.pbs.org

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

I think 'they' are transitioning from fossil fuels to renewable energy.

37% on a worldwide level and again that is gonna taper significantly. https://www.worldcoal.org/coal-facts/coal-electricity/

Far cry from your 60% sensational jargon lol.

Oil is the renewable energy, it is made inside the earth. The precious metals needed to make batteries are finite.

It's another gigantic lie of life that EVs are for everyone. If "they" succeed, watch how fast your liberties are lost when they cut the power to your home.

My truck produces less emissions than the coal or oil or natural gas plant needed to charge/power an EV.

 

[Vladimir2306]

That is misinformation. 20% was coal and it's declining year over year.

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the U.S. last year

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the United States for the first time in 2022, the U.S. Energy Information Administration announced Monday.

www.pbs.org

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

I think 'they' are transitioning from fossil fuels to renewable energy.

37% on a worldwide level and again that is gonna taper significantly. https://www.worldcoal.org/coal-facts/coal-electricity/

Far cry from your 60% sensational jargon lol.

Ok, Coal, gas... In total it's 60% even in the USA) plus nuclear energy, that's another 20%. What are you talking about? coal, gas, and nuclear power generation is a steam boiler that has not changed much since the 18th century with a low efficiency.
I repeat ... The efficiency of modern internal combustion engines is already 40-60% ...
For a wind generator, it is 40% ... while people do not know how to save and move electricity over long distances without loss.
Pure electric car, this is not a new development, it is a dead end in the current state.

 

[Banks22]

This will be a $130k+ suv that very few can afford and GM will only be able to make 100-200/month just like the hummer cuz they can’t get enough lithium mined for the batteries. Use more fossil fuels to make 1 battery than they save for their “green energy”

 

[DuraYuk]

You didn't address my scenario about the sick relative. The reality is that vehicle is not up for the task. If the gas stations go down I have 50 gallons in my garage and I can drive to another town for fuel. EVs cannot do that.

As others have stated, it's good for a suburban commuter, city folk parking their cars on the street, not so much. Can you imagine what it would be like trying to charge your EV up in the Bronx? LOL

EVs don't have brakes anymore? My serpentine belt lasted 177K miles.



Oil is the renewable energy, it is made inside the earth. The precious metals needed to make batteries are finite.

It's another gigantic lie of life that EVs are for everyone. If "they" succeed, watch how fast your liberties are lost when they cut the power to your home.

My truck produces less emissions than the coal or oil or natural gas plant needed to charge/power an EV.

Your ev is always charging. So in your scenario you would have max range the day you need to go get fuel. Your gas car isn't full when you start your day unless you just filled up. I'm not sure why you are keeping 50 gallons of gas in your garage. That isn't safe. You could have some batteries for that same scenario.

You know how regenerative braking works? You didn't change a serp belt for 177k miles? Lol ok.

Fossil fuels are renewable? Lol I suppose the world is flat too. if the world makes fossil fuels like you claim I suppose the world doesn't make these finite minerals ? Lmao.

Liberties lost? Ok. That's enough for me lol. Let's keep bending facts to fit your narrative. The boogey man is coming. Jesus.

 

[DuraYuk]

Ok, Coal, gas... In total it's 60% even in the USA) plus nuclear energy, that's another 20%. What are you talking about? coal, gas, and nuclear power generation is a steam boiler that has not changed much since the 18th century with a low efficiency.
I repeat ... The efficiency of modern internal combustion engines is already 40-60% ...
For a wind generator, it is 40% ... while people do not know how to save and move electricity over long distances without loss.
Pure electric car, this is not a new development, it is a dead end in the current state.

What's a dead end state is you guys just making things up lol.

 

[Vladimir2306]

Your ev is always charging. So in your scenario you would have max range the day you need to go get fuel. Your gas car isn't full when you start your day unless you just filled up. I'm not sure why you are keeping 50 gallons of gas in your garage. That isn't safe. You could have some batteries for that same scenario.

You know how regenerative braking works? You didn't change a serp belt for 177k miles? Lol ok.

Fossil fuels are renewable? Lol I suppose the world is flat too. if the world makes fossil fuels like you claim I suppose the world doesn't make these finite minerals ? Lmao.

Liberties lost? Ok. That's enough for me lol. Let's keep bending facts to fit your narrative. The boogey man is coming. Jesus.

Well, in general, scientists have long argued that oil is a renewable resource that has nothing to do with organic matter. And here there is not even a close theory and a flat earth.
About the fact that an electric car is always charging ... how much can it charge overnight at home? 5-7-10kw per hour? and the consumption of an Escalade format car will most likely be 35-40 kW per 100 km ... it turns out that it will charge from 100 to 200 km overnight. and it's summer. and in winter it's -50% cool, charge the car all night and charge for 50 km)))
And about autotravel far, I generally keep quiet. 2 hours to go, 1 hour to drink coffee while charging. Why such a journey? while my Yukon gives a range of more than 1000 km.

 

[Vladimir2306]

The fact of the matter is that we do not invent, but we look realistically at things. History is full of cases where marketing and greed go against logic and common sense. The wholesale planting of diesel in Europe, now, oh my God, diesel has turned out to be harmful after the diesel car fleet has become more than 80%, now let's have electric cars in every home. and we will ban Diesel, declare it harmful, and stop letting it into the cities .... this is just LOL

 

[Vladimir2306]

What's a dead end state is you guys just making things up lol.

The fact of the matter is that we do not invent, but we look realistically at things. History is full of cases where marketing and greed go against logic and common sense. The wholesale planting of diesel in Europe, now, oh my God, diesel has turned out to be harmful after the diesel car fleet has become more than 80%, now let's have electric cars in every home. and we will ban Diesel, declare it harmful, and stop letting it into the cities .... this is just LOL
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