Driver side motor mount - how much movement is too much

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It's got chrome side mirrors, non standard suspension
Thanks for sharing this. Spent this am looking, decided to run sister wires alongside the ones I pictured as I felt they were most likely. Did not solve the issue. I couldn't find anything else that looked suspicious. Beginning to wonder if the motor mount was a red herring... Not sure where to turn next, I wonder if it could be a control module flaking out or something... Really bummed
 

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To me the symptoms point to a bad ground somewhere. Have you done resistance testing on the ground locations? Verified the battery cables are good?
 
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To me the symptoms point to a bad ground somewhere. Have you done resistance testing on the ground locations? Verified the battery cables are good?
Hopefully gonna try testing the cables from the battery today. One odd thing i have had is my driver side rear door fills up w/ water when it rains, i wonder if it can get high enough to have damaged something electrically ... windows and locks work fine so I think its low probability... probably just need new seals or unclog drain holes
 

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The one on the back of the drivers side cyl head to the firewall is known to make trucks act funky when defective.
 
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The one on the back of the drivers side cyl head to the firewall is known to make trucks act funky when defective.
I looked at that strap and it LOOKS ok... Maybe a little dusty. I did not check continuity yet... Tomorrow
 
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Hopefully gonna try testing the cables from the battery today. One odd thing i have had is my driver side rear door fills up w/ water when it rains, i wonder if it can get high enough to have damaged something electrically ... windows and locks work fine so I think its low probability... probably just need new seals or unclog drain holes
Battery cables looked good, i didn't test before per the SB, but i cleaned stuff around the mega fuse (there was no arcing), and post cleaning the voltage drops were < 200mV... negative to the block was reading 130 mV, positive to the underhood buss electrical center was 50mV during cranking w/ injectors and coils disabled.
 
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Battery cables looked good, i didn't test before per the SB, but i cleaned stuff around the mega fuse (there was no arcing), and post cleaning the voltage drops were < 200mV... negative to the block was reading 130 mV, positive to the underhood buss electrical center was 50mV during cranking w/ injectors and coils disabled.
Ummm, I just noticed something... my battery is 1yr old agm, but after cranking it to test the voltage drop last night, and noticing the battery voltage was a little low, i put it on charger this am... it read 12 v and 25% charge... could that be the actual root cause? I dont see how as the alternator is putting out close to 14v most of the time when the engine is running, and the faults always occur w/ engine running...think i will buy a cig lighter voltage monitor...
 

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Hopefully gonna try testing the cables from the battery today. One odd thing i have had is my driver side rear door fills up w/ water when it rains, i wonder if it can get high enough to have damaged something electrically ... windows and locks work fine so I think its low probability... probably just need new seals or unclog drain holes
open that door and drill 1 hole in the "bottom" on each end one closer towards the hinge area and one towards the handle, that will allow any water to drain whenever it rains
it has small drains already but they get clogged up easily. I would drill with maybe a 1/4"'bit
 
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Hopefully gonna try testing the cables from the battery today. One odd thing i have had is my driver side rear door fills up w/ water when it rains, i wonder if it can get high enough to have damaged something electrically ... windows and locks work fine so I think its low probability... probably just need new seals or unclog drain holes
So I checked and cleaned the battery cable to the uh
The one on the back of the drivers side cyl head to the firewall is known to make trucks act funky when defective.
I removed engine to chassis strap on driver's side and cleaned all contact surfaces. I measured the resistance from end to end while of the car at 0.1 ohms. I charged the battery and then took it for a short test drive... No issues so will continue driving to see if problem comes back
 

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it has small drains already but they get clogged up easily.
^truth

i have cleaned those holes numerous times, they clog way too easy.

an alternative to drilling holes, remove the little oval plastic plug, middle bottom of door, under the weatherstrip.
 
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Battery cables looked good, i didn't test before per the SB, but i cleaned stuff around the mega fuse (there was no arcing), and post cleaning the voltage drops were < 200mV... negative to the block was reading 130 mV, positive to the underhood buss electrical center was 50mV during cranking w/ injectors and coils disabled.
i think i will replace the battery negative cable to the engine block, since it seemed to have significant voltage drop (70% of allowable), and probably the block to body ground strap, which i would think should have like 0 resistance, out of abundance of caution...
 

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So I checked and cleaned the battery cable to the uh

I removed engine to chassis strap on driver's side and cleaned all contact surfaces. I measured the resistance from end to end while of the car at 0.1 ohms. I charged the battery and then took it for a short test drive... No issues so will continue driving to see if problem comes back

An ohm reading tells only so much, but won't tell you if the connection can carry the load. Do a full voltage drop test.
 

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Check the major ground connection on the frame underneath the truck, roughly under the driver's foot, and make sure that it is clean and tight. Many electrical-involved issues have been solved by cleaning up and tightening up this critical ground connection.
 

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And the one under the interior dash panel on the drivers side. It's been know to fail due to insulation getting under the bolt.
Which one is that? Do you mean under the defroster panel by windshield?
 

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Yes. G218 I believe. Obviously just guessing at problems but it's worth to test it....
 
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Check the major ground connection on the frame underneath the truck, roughly under the driver's foot, and make sure that it is clean and tight. Many electrical-involved issues have been solved by cleaning up and tightening up this critical ground connection.
I did not check this one but I cleaned both ends of the battery negative to engine block cable, the battery end of the positive to under hood fuse/relay panel, and both ends of the engine block to body flexible ground strap on driver's side under hood. It's been 5 trips with no issues. The battery negative registers about 130-140 mV drop during engine cranking, which seemed close to the 200mV limit, so I aimed to replace that cable but have not found suitable replacement, and there is a 6 or 8 gage wire I think connected to it at the battery end that runs up somewhere into the passenger side front bumper as far as I can tell... Not sure what it is (blower motor ground???) so just going with the contact cleaning for now.... The ground strap I cleaned, but also ordered replacement for. If issue comes back I will check this next, or next time I get under car, whichever comes first. Thanks for all the advice!!!
 
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i added the new ground strap wire and ran the old one to a 2ndary location on block that was available (If 1 is good 2 must be better!). I removed the oval plug in the driver side rear door to help the door drain per @mikez71 . Hopefully these issues are behind me now. Thanks for all the advice!
 

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