DJM lower control arms VS keys

[Crippin87]

I’ve tried to do some research on the subject but haven’t found all of the answers I have been looking for. Right now up front I’m running SP shocks and Belltech spindles. I’m wanting to go lower. I was going to pick up the DJM upper and lower control arms. I am wondering if they give a true 3” drop? I have also read that they ride like crap, you get bump steer and they make your vehicle walk. On the other hand, I have also heard keys make your vehicle ride like crap lol. I guess I’m just looking for some advice on which way I should go. I don’t mind the cost difference if the ride is better. Any insight is appreciated!

 

[Crippin87]

Anyone?

 

[Rocket Man]

I haven’t heard anything good about the DJM control arms. You can get about an inch out of keys before they start affecting the ride much, any more on them and you’re asking for trouble. So with the 2” drop spindles that’s 3” total. If that’s not good enough you’ll need to spend some real $$ starting with ditching the torsion bars altogether.

 

[Crippin87]

I haven’t heard anything good about the DJM control arms. You can get about an inch out of keys before they start affecting the ride much, any more on them and you’re asking for trouble. So with the 2” drop spindles that’s 3” total. If that’s not good enough you’ll need to spend some real $$ starting with ditching the torsion bars altogether.

Nice, thanks man! 2” would be ideal but 1” would probably work I guess. I plan to put 24s on in the spring so idk if I should go much lower anyway. I was kind of thinking I might put 22s on and get lower but I don’t want it to ride terrible. What did you use to lower yours when you had 26s on it?

 

[Rocket Man]

Nice, thanks man! 2” would be ideal but 1” would probably work I guess. I plan to put 24s on in the spring so idk if I should go much lower anyway. I was kind of thinking I might put 22s on and get lower but I don’t want it to ride terrible. What did you use to lower yours when you had 26s on it?

Just the Belltech drop spindles. I think the keys were already cranked a bit when I bought it, maybe 1/2” but I’m not 100% sure.

 

[Byoung1330]

I’ve tried to do some research on the subject but haven’t found all of the answers I have been looking for. Right now up front I’m running SP shocks and Belltech spindles. I’m wanting to go lower. I was going to pick up the DJM upper and lower control arms. I am wondering if they give a true 3” drop? I have also read that they ride like crap, you get bump steer and they make your vehicle walk. On the other hand, I have also heard keys make your vehicle ride like crap lol. I guess I’m just looking for some advice on which way I should go. I don’t mind the cost difference if the ride is better. Any insight is appreciated!

I got mcgaughys spindles and I wanted to go lower also. So I bought some 3/4 ton purple keys off eBay for like 40 bucks. I had to actually raise it up a bit cuz it cut my tires. I am runnin 305 35 24s tho. Gonna get 295 next time an try that. But it rides good. I also had the bell tech sp shocks an I didn’t think they rode good. I got bilstein now. An my entire front end has been re built. I also had some bump steer with the 24s but I just also installed a kyb steering damper an it helped a lot. I have a 2wd also. Says they won’t fit but the kit I bought bolted right up. 50 bucks

 

[Byoung1330]

Here’s mine

 

[Crippin87]

Just the Belltech drop spindles. I think the keys were already cranked a bit when I bought it, maybe 1/2” but I’m not 100% sure.

What did you use in the rear? I’m a little worried it won’t even out with norcals springs, I don’t want to squat it.

I got mcgaughys spindles and I wanted to go lower also. So I bought some 3/4 ton purple keys off eBay for like 40 bucks. I had to actually raise it up a bit cuz it cut my tires. I am runnin 305 35 24s tho. Gonna get 295 next time an try that. But it rides good. I also had the bell tech sp shocks an I didn’t think they rode good. I got bilstein now. An my entire front end has been re built. I also had some bump steer with the 24s but I just also installed a kyb steering damper an it helped a lot. I have a 2wd also. Says they won’t fit but the kit I bought bolted right up. 50 bucks

I hear a lot of good things about the bilstein shocks. I don’t have a problem my sp shocks, I think they ride pretty good. Seems like everyone likes the bilstein shocks much better than the sp shocks and it makes me wonder how much better the ride could be lol. I didn’t even think about a steering dampener, that’s a good idea too. I was thinking I would run the 295s myself when I put them on, probably roll the fenders too. I haven’t had any luck finding a shop local that does it though. Probably something I will have to tackle on my own.

 

[Rocket Man]

I used Belltech springs in the rear. It’s their 2/4 kit. When you start mixing and matching you’ll have to experiment imo.

 

[Dantheman1540]

I haven’t heard anything good about the DJM control arms. You can get about an inch out of keys before they start affecting the ride much, any more on them and you’re asking for trouble. So with the 2” drop spindles that’s 3” total. If that’s not good enough you’ll need to spend some real $$ starting with ditching the torsion bars altogether.

This is probably the best advice especially if your not sure how low you want to go and may end up changing ride height down the road. The coil overs will allow for several inches in adjustment and ride great even if drastically dropped.

 

[03catburban]

The bump steer and "walking" has alot to do with alignment

Im running the djm arms and about 3.5" worth of drop and 1st alignment I had done at a shop and drove like craps 2nd alignment I did once we got hunter machine installed at shop. Now drives straight no issues as before

 

[Byoung1330]

I done a lot of experimenting. I had mcgaughys coils, crown, and now bell tech. But I like my mcgaughys spindles and 3/4 ton keys

 

[Tonny]

I just stumbled on this topic, as it is here already, I will ask here. I will get some 18s under my Hoe in the next few months. Also MOT coming. If things need renewed, I want to go Bilstein 4600 absorbers all around. And if so for the springs, I want a 2'' lower kit for the back. And from my understanding I can do like 1/2 to 1 inch drop with the stock spindles up front? I will have a pre MOT in the next few weeks and I'm sure there is something wrong with my undercarriage, so already doing the research on parts, what is available in the Netherlands and what not. And for the drop in the back, I read a lot of DJM, not a known brand for me: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DJM-Suspension-2000-2006-Tahoe-Yukon-2-Rear-Drop-Coils-Shock-Extender-Lowering/191871905625?hash=item2cac74ef59:g:TowAAOSw~oFXNk5Z&fits=Year:2001|Model:Tahoe|Make:Chevrolet

Or are there better 2'' back drop kits. And from my understanding also, I can make this all work with the Bilstein 4600's?

EDIT: never thought of it, because American vehicle. Is there any set from Eibach that does the job? That's German stuff and when I drove BMW I had it as well. Great combination with Bilstein. But since the market is so big for me for the Chevy. I see springs from Eibach on Ebay, but they don't seem to have the parts that DJM includes..

 

[Tonny]

This is a 2 inch lowering Eibach springs, but it are only the springs and I always see a bracket included with most American brand sets. These springs from Eibach say 2 inch drop on the rear: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eibach-3882-520-SUV-Pro-Kit-Set-of-2-Rear-Chevy/264954578792?epid=76509184&hash=item3db0860768:gBYAAOSweNBfwPOH&fits=Year:2001|Model:Tahoe|Make:Chevrolet

EDIT: Shock extenders those brackets are called. That is a ''must'' I can imagine?

 

[Rocket Man]

This is a 2 inch lowering Eibach springs, but it are only the springs and I always see a bracket included with most American brand sets. These springs from Eibach say 2 inch drop on the rear: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eibach-3882-520-SUV-Pro-Kit-Set-of-2-Rear-Chevy/264954578792?epid=76509184&hash=item3db0860768:gBYAAOSweNBfwPOH&fits=Year:2001|Model:Tahoe|Make:Chevrolet

EDIT: Shock extenders those brackets are called. That is a ''must'' I can imagine?

I would go with Eibach or Belltech over DJM any day. And yes on the shock extenders, otherwise stock length shocks might bottom out. The extenders relocate the mounting points so the distance between them is close to original.

 

[Tonny]

I would go with Eibach or Belltech over DJM any day. And yes on the shock extenders, otherwise stock length shocks might bottom out. The extenders relocate the mounting points so the distance between them is close to original.

Go to know! Thanks Do you also know if it's true you can lower the front of the Hoe a bit with the stock spindles? Like 1/2 to 1 inch? Without compromising things obviously?

 

[Rocket Man]

Go to know! Thanks Do you also know if it's true you can lower the front of the Hoe a bit with the stock spindles? Like 1/2 to 1 inch? Without compromising things obviously?

Yeah, I mentioned that to you before. You can decrank your stock keys. You can actually get 2” by doing that but my understanding is anything more than 1” and the ride suffers. I have never gone 2” like that myself. If you want 2” up front you really need to go with drop spindles.

 

[Tonny]

Yeah, I mentioned that to you before. You can decrank your stock keys. You can actually get 2” by doing that but my understanding is anything more than 1” and the ride suffers. I have never gone 2” like that myself. If you want 2” up front you really need to go with drop spindles.

Oh haha your memory is better then mine, thanks. Well since I really like to possibilities it gives with the stock height but I like lowered more for the looks. So looking for a way in between and want to skip the spindles and work with the stock setup and even the Tahoe with the rear drop. If I need new shocks and or springs I will go the Bilstein - Eibach way. That will make the ride firmer and that is actually what I want because I throw this thing trough corners like it's a BMW haha.